Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

ChikiChiki · 17-09-2020 08:41AM

^^^^^^^^

Foolish for adhering to the advice and doing the right thing?

Hawthorn Tree · 17-09-2020 08:42AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

^^^^^^^^

Foolish for adhering to the advice and doing the right thing?

Chief, you need to ease up on the virtue signalling. The previous post was too much.

Multipass · 17-09-2020 08:43AM

Dublinandy3 wrote: »

Am i right in thinkingthe purpose fo the first lockdown was to stop the spike in deaths/hospitilsations so the hospitals could cope? THey always accepted people would get sick and die.

If that's the case then the government needs to be held to account for not preparing the hospitals etc in the mean time. As another lockdown should only be for the same purpose.

The hospitals aren’t coping right now - people are on chairs in Limerick as there aren’t enough trolleys. These are not covid cases either. They have done nothing to prepare the hospitals, quite the opposite in fact.

Zebra3 · 17-09-2020 08:45AM

Multipass wrote: »

The hospitals aren’t coping right now - people are on chairs in Limerick as there aren’t enough trolleys. These are not covid cases either. They have done nothing to prepare the hospitals, quite the opposite in fact.

Sounds like the health system people voted for over the last few decades.

17-09-2020 08:49AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Cancelling a trip tomorrow to because I predict we will be at level 3 in Dublin in the next 36 hours.

The response I was met with was, that I was unnecessarily worrying and that work colleagues of the person I'm going with are even heading away around the country this weekend. My response was, if that's the case they are doing the wrong thing and have a different moral compass to I. The data presented yesterday was stark AF.

Also have you noticed that people who say "you watch to much of the media" tend to get a lot of their information from Facebook.

I really hate that some people are not taking it seriously. I'm ****ing worried because I don't want to spread the virus to anyone and into areas where it is not as high. Each one of us has a massive role to play.

Anyway that's probably the end of that relationship. Can't be dealing with people with such different value systems.

Different people have different risk apetites. You have to accept that and get on with it.

The us vs them attitudes are growing by the day, its not healthy for society.

yawhat? · 17-09-2020 08:51AM

road_high wrote: »

Just living their lives. Nothing wrong with that. The Covid zealots can stay at home if they want?

No, actively going against public health advice and possibly endangering their fellow citizens. Why? Either because they think they know better, or they just don’t give a fcuk.

weldoninhio · 17-09-2020 08:53AM

circadian wrote: »

It'll be a huge outbreak after our resident pub crawler and socialite wherever they're heading this weekend.

Just the city centre and my home town this weekend. Keeping the virus within the county limits

:D

Tokyo · 17-09-2020 09:11AM

Mod: @Chance Rotten Statute - don't post in the thread again.

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:13AM

yawhat? wrote: »

What an incredibly selfish and arrogant way of behaving.

If they are mainly outside then there is no harm, no different to the club gaa matches etc

Hawthorn Tree · 17-09-2020 09:14AM

Will Dubliners be having cat or rat for Christmas dinner at this rate?

This 'lockdown' word should have been banned in Q1. It's meaningless.

JimmyVik · 17-09-2020 09:24AM

yawhat? wrote: »

No, actively going against public health advice and possibly endangering their fellow citizens. Why? Either because they think they know better, or they just don’t give a fcuk.

Public health advice is all over the place.
They have lost the dressing room so to speak.

yourdeadwright · 17-09-2020 09:28AM

I have a friend getting married on Saturday morning in Dublin ,
Only 25 will be at the ceremony which is fine but the reception is just across the border in Meath like 10 minutes

Feel so sorry for them as it looks like it'll all have to be cancelled come 6:30 pm on Friday less than 24 hours before there big day

eviltwin · 17-09-2020 09:30AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I have a friend getting married on Saturday morning in Dublin ,
Only 25 will be at the ceremony which is fine but the reception is just across the border in Meath like 10 minutes

Feel so sorry for them as it looks like it'll all have to be cancelled come 6:30 pm on Friday less than 24 hours before there big day

Can they go ahead with the legal bit?

eviltwin · 17-09-2020 09:33AM

I work with vulnerable people who know nothing of social distancing or good hand hygiene. Might as well talk to a wall. On top of that they take issue with any change to their routine so the next few weeks are going to be interesting. :rolleyes: My poor old mental health is really taking a battering these days, its not an easy time.

road_high · 17-09-2020 09:34AM

yawhat? wrote: »

No, actively going against public health advice and possibly endangering their fellow citizens. Why? Either because they think they know better, or they just don’t give a fcuk.

Oh shut up would ya, look at the stats and engage your brain ffs. This virus is relatively minor and all these mania is way out of proportion to the hysterical reaction (ala the hysterical nature of your post). "Endangering fellow citizens"- do you know how you avoid that? Look yourself in the house for ever- cut off all utilities as they're a fire risk that would "endanger fellow citizens".

yourdeadwright · 17-09-2020 09:49AM

eviltwin wrote: »

Can they go ahead with the legal bit?

I think so but not sure if they will , bit weird getting married and just heading home

eviltwin · 17-09-2020 09:51AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think so but not sure if they will , bit weird getting married and just heading home

At least they are married then and covered if something happens to one of them which is more of a priority than a wedding at the moment. Its going to be some time before we see a return to normal weddings. I feel for them though.

thebaz · 17-09-2020 09:53AM

eviltwin wrote: »

I work with vulnerable people who know nothing of social distancing or good hand hygiene. Might as well talk to a wall. On top of that they take issue with any change to their routine so the next few weeks are going to be interesting. :rolleyes: My poor old mental health is really taking a battering these days, its not an easy time.

You are doing good work for vulnerable people, its taking a toll on you , understandable, but right now all that seams to mattter is the daily count of Covid cases , blinkered to everything else , you are not alone many many people are suffering right now, from non Covid issues , but this blinkered view on Covid, is not looking at the bigger picture - everyone wished that Covid didnt exist , but it does , it is impossible to erradicate such a contagious virus ,but we are spoon fed non stop Fear and nothing positive about how to really live with it.

yourdeadwright · 17-09-2020 09:55AM

eviltwin wrote: »

At least they are married then and covered if something happens to one of them which is more of a priority than a wedding at the moment. Its going to be some time before we see a return to normal weddings. I feel for them though.

To be fair its the chance you take booking one this year ,
The worst parts is they where very upbeat the last 2 weeks and had come to terms with inviting 50 people and all the other restriction that where in place,
But to have it taken away with less than 24 hours to go will be tough ,

eviltwin · 17-09-2020 09:57AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

To be fair its the chance you take booking one this year ,
The worst parts is they where very upbeat the last 2 weeks and had come to terms with inviting 50 people and all the other restriction that where in place,
But to have it taken away with less than 24 hours to go will be tough ,

Even if it goes ahead all the good has gone out of it for them. Awful situation to be in.

Kylta · 17-09-2020 10:02AM

eviltwin wrote: »

I work with vulnerable people who know nothing of social distancing or good hand hygiene. Might as well talk to a wall. On top of that they take issue with any change to their routine so the next few weeks are going to be interesting. :rolleyes: My poor old mental health is really taking a battering these days, its not an easy time.

Can you talk to somebody in regards to your mental health taking a battering! With the vunerable people your looking after, you might need to looking out for yourself too.

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 10:06AM

apparently we'll be going to level 3 and a bit now

stockshares · 17-09-2020 10:06AM

average_runner wrote: »

If they are mainly outside then there is no harm, no different to the club gaa matches etc

Just because the Gaa is going ahead doesn't mean they are not doing any harm.

Sick of them going on about how it's vital for the country. Every night on Six One News they get airtime bleating about how important they are.

When they went back first there was an interview with Lee Chin and a hurling team from Wexford who travelled to Offaly for a challenge game. It did not need to be played at all but they pushed for it, pure selfishness.

It's pure selfishness that's driving the games going ahead. Nothing to do with the greater good at all.

Btw I used to play it so am not against the game. It's just not necessary to be playing it atm

eviltwin · 17-09-2020 10:08AM

Kylta wrote: »

Can you talk to somebody in regards to your mental health taking a battering! With the vunerable people your looking after, you might need to looking out for yourself too.

I'm doing some workplace therapy which is keeping me going for now. I can see massive burnout in health and social care over the next few months. We're trained to deal with stuff like this but not on an ongoing basis and the system isn't set up to deal with the impact on service users.

We've seen their supports cut due to Covid and they can't express that in a healthy way so they are becoming aggressive and violent at times and then on top of that you have the fear that one of them will pass something onto you that you bring home......

Assetbacked · 17-09-2020 10:10AM

yawhat? wrote: »

What an incredibly selfish and arrogant way of behaving.

Drop the hysteria and respond with data to show how this is irresponsible. It is not sufficient to say "that's the advice of the government".

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 10:19AM

eviltwin wrote: »

I'm doing some workplace therapy which is keeping me going for now. I can see massive burnout in health and social care over the next few months. We're trained to deal with stuff like this but not on an ongoing basis and the system isn't set up to deal with the impact on service users.
We've seen their supports cut due to Covid and they can't express that in a healthy way so they are becoming aggressive and violent at times and then on top of that you have the fear that one of them will pass something onto you that you bring home......

This is an example of how these restrictions are causing more harm than good, more stress, misery and any number of other negative effects.
We don't close down Anything for the dozens of people who die during the winter flu season.
With the increased hygiene and awareness, along with the HSE doing their job to support people like you and the places you work in then there's no need to keep Locking everything down...

WhiteMemento9 · 17-09-2020 10:23AM

road_high wrote: »

Just living their lives. Nothing wrong with that. The Covid zealots can stay at home if they want?

What you do affects others so in turn you are not just living your life.

You don't get to go out and stab someone to death and then just say I am just living my life.

hmmm · 17-09-2020 10:34AM

stockshares wrote: »

Btw I used to play it so am not against the game. It's just not necessary to be playing it atm

It's a low-risk activity providing physical and mental health benefits to those taking part. People will want to do things - outdoors is good, pushing them into pubs or gyms is a bad idea. Similarly people are not going to sit on the couch watching Netflix for the next year, and we wouldn't want them to either.

This sort of "lock it all down" mentality is counter-productive. We need to reduce the number of interactions we have inside, and move them outside, and we need to allow people to be social but in a safe way.

yourdeadwright · 17-09-2020 10:36AM

I see travel is classed as essential or appropriate

Is it appropriate to drive 10 minutes into Meath to your wedding venue less that 24 after restriction ?

Claw Hammer · 17-09-2020 10:38AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I see travel is classed as essential or appropriate

Is it appropriate to drive 10 minutes into Meath to your wedding venue less that 24 after restriction ?

No.

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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