Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

John O.Groats · 15-09-2020 04:24PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Yep

That must have been one of the very few times your controller let you off the leash.

15-09-2020 04:25PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

In your opinion. Out of curiosity if you were in Micheal Martin`s or Stephen Donnelly`s position what would you have announced today?

A coherent plan?

15-09-2020 04:29PM

The news article was so intent on scaring the public, that it made an actual Freudian slip!!

in the race to scaremonger, look at the stupid mistake, can you spot it!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/not-a-stable-place-%e2%80%94-dublin-heading-for-5000-covid-cases-and-50-deaths-a-day-expert-wants/ar-BB193BL0?li=BBr5KbJ

Assetbacked · 15-09-2020 04:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

A coherent plan?

And an endgame. What actually is the endgame? I bet they do not know themselves.

John O.Groats · 15-09-2020 04:32PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

And an endgame. What actually is the endgame? I bet they do not know themselves.

And if you were in their shoes what would yours be?

MadYaker · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

growleaves wrote: »

From typing "sweden nightlubs" into Google Images it looks the same as any nightclub from Ireland, UK, wherever.

Almost from the word go apologists for restrictions produced explanations of how Swedish culture and behaviour naturally equates to being in lockdown. I don't buy it.

Ah yes google images, the source of all truth. Do you know anyone who lives there? Have you ever been there?

I wouldn't say their behaviour or culture ever equated to a lockdown but they do tend to be naturally fairly socially distant, not very touchy feely, no kissing and hugging when they meet like the italians etc. One and two bed apartments are affordable so you don't really see as many house shares like students and young people do here. They also have a population who have faith in the government and understand the importance of following certain rules in a situation like this. Unfortunately we don't have that here, we had to be forced via a government implemented lockdown, in Sweden asking nicely was enough. Nice place to live though if you don't mind the price of everything.

xl500 · 15-09-2020 04:34PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Oh yeah the old ‘The Swedes are better than us’ argument.

You must have a low opinion of yourself.

They are at following rules

15-09-2020 04:37PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

And an endgame. What actually is the endgame? I bet they do not know themselves.

They mentioned a vaccine earlier. Seems like literally all of our eggs are in that basket.

Even level 1 is quite heavy on restrictions.

Like I said in other posts... It is either a vaccine or we run out of resources. Who knows.

Zebra3 · 15-09-2020 04:38PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Nonsense. Vulnerable people will be safest if there is low levels of community transmission. My parents are over 60 and my mother had lung cancer. They feel safe enough going out to shops and restaurants at the moment because levels of community transmission where they live are low so I’d say their quality of life is reasonably good at the moment. That would change if community transmission continues increasing where they live. I don’t want them to have to stay indoors 24/7 and I am prepared to make sacrifices so they and others like them don’t have to cocoon because it’s no life.

The restrictions are fairly manageable, don’t be such a child. It’s a pity this country is full pussies who can’t see beyond the ends of their own noses and are capable of nothing but whinging.

Well good for your folks, but mine are in their 70s and have a different view of things. They don't feel comfortable going to a restaurant, they don't like the restrictions over going to mass, and they don't like the restrictions on seeing their children and grandchildren. But they don't expect everyone else to lose out on life. They're not selfish people.

The restrictions should be left to individuals, don’t be such a child. It’s a pity this country is full pussies who can’t see beyond the ends of their own noses and are capable of nothing but whinging.

normanoffside · 15-09-2020 04:40PM

xl500 wrote: »

They are at following rules

That’s cos they don’t have any stupid Nonsensical rules Around Covid like we do.

If we had their rules we’d be good at following them too.

MadYaker · 15-09-2020 04:41PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Well good for your folks, but mine are in their 70s and have a different view of things. They don't feel comfortable going to a restaurant, they don't like the restrictions over going to mass, and they don't like the restrictions on seeing their children and grandchildren. But they don't expect everyone else to lose out on life. They're not selfish people.

The restrictions should be left to individuals

It would be very unwise of your parents to get up close to their grandchildren restrictions or no. Children for the most part aren't affected but they can pass it on.

If they don't feel comfortable in a restaurant then I don't see how they could want to go to mass either. Jesus isn't going to protect them from this. Tell them to keep an eye on the numbers in their area and find out which bars and restaurants have suitable outdoor seating, it should be perfectly safe for them and they can enjoy a meal or a pint or whatever. My parents were too worried to do this for many months it took a lot of convincing and reassuring from me to get them out to start doing stuff again but they can only keep doing things like that as long as the numbers in their area stay low.

Elmer Blooker · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

rusty cole wrote: »

The news article was so intent on scaring the public, that it made an actual Freudian slip!!

in the race to scaremonger, look at the stupid mistake, can you spot it!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/not-a-stable-place-%e2%80%94-dublin-heading-for-5000-covid-cases-and-50-deaths-a-day-expert-wants/ar-BB193BL0?li=BBr5KbJ

:pac: Priceless!

FixdePitchmark · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

So say you had a hotel booked for a few days tomorrow.

You now have to cancel ?

Was it immediate effect ?

Where does this leave weddings for Dubs ?

growleaves · 15-09-2020 04:43PM

Ah yes google images, the source of all truth.

Huh? I just looked for pictures of Swedish nightclubs and they look the same as any nightclubs so what am I supposed to think? There are pictures of girls kissing and people crowded together. Its normal human behaviour so why would I or anyone view it with suspicion or think the images were planted.

xl500 · 15-09-2020 04:45PM

normanoffside wrote: »

That’s cos they don’t have any stupid Nonsensical rules Around Covid like we do.

If we had their rules we’d be good at following them too.

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/restriktioner-och-forbud

Look broadly similar to ours before todays plan

Assetbacked · 15-09-2020 04:45PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

And if you were in their shoes what would yours be?

Back in May, when the crisis part of the whole thing ended, I would've sought to follow the rest of the EU, particularly with respect to travel.

An appreciation that the virus can't be stopped, only slowed, unless severe, unsustainable measures were taken (ie strict lockdown). Therefore, a strategy which focuses on those that are actually vulnerable to it and ensuring they can be protected or else the risk minimised. An acceptance that a vaccine is not a guarantee so we shouldn't hold all our eggs in that basket. Slow but steady herd immunity strategy as part of this acceptance. And the most key strategy; tell people to stop eating and drinking rubbish, sleep more, exercise, don't be overweight as this is ultimately the best approach for all but the tiny proportion who are vulnerable to covid for which this immune system bolstering can only do so much.

Micky 32 · 15-09-2020 04:46PM

Blondini wrote: »

And the award for internet Covid-tough-guy of the year goes to .... this poster.

Acceptance speech here
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Maybe this guy should get it?

John O.Groats wrote: »

Don`t presume to tell me what I can and can`t post about pal. .

John O.Groats · 15-09-2020 04:49PM

growleaves wrote: »

Huh? I just looked for pictures of Swedish nightclubs and they look the same as any nightclubs so what am I supposed to think? There are pictures of girls kissing and people crowded together. Its normal human behaviour so why would I or anyone view it with suspicion or think the images were planted.

I looked at some of those images myself and any I saw dated from before Covid-19 appeared in Europe.

Gael23 · 15-09-2020 04:49PM

Civil disobedience is now needed. Life is too short to keep living like this

15-09-2020 04:51PM

Apparently Donnelly was unwell today and is now getting sent for a Covid test...

Imagine the health minister going to work sick during a pandemic and then standing next to the CMO, Taoiseach and Tanaiste.

Assetbacked · 15-09-2020 04:51PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Civil disobedience is now needed. Life is too short to keep living like this

What exactly would you suggest? Hugging our grannies? Have afternoon tea parties with too many people? Travel abroad? Not sure I can handle all that rebellion if I'm honest.

growleaves · 15-09-2020 04:51PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

I looked at some of those images myself and any I saw dated from before Covid-19 appeared in Europe.

The argument is about whether Swedes naturally shun human contact.

I don't know about post-Covid but one article I read, in The Local I think, said social distancing was over in Sweden. No way of verifying the truth or falsity of that article.

Gael23 · 15-09-2020 04:53PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

What exactly would you suggest? Hugging our grannies? Have afternoon tea parties with too many people? Travel abroad? Not sure I can handle all that rebellion if I'm honest.

Living your life responsibly, being able to have who you want into your home and for families in different countries to be able to visit each other. I am aware of a funeral that took place yesterday and none of the lady’s relatives were able to travel home. All emigrated many years ago

15-09-2020 04:53PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

What exactly would you suggest? Hugging our grannies? Have afternoon tea parties with too many people? Travel abroad? Not sure I can handle all that rebellion if I'm honest.

Encourage kids to sing Christmas Carols to spread the droplets

Zebra3 · 15-09-2020 04:53PM

MadYaker wrote: »

If they don't feel comfortable in a restaurant then I don't see how they could want to go to mass either. Jesus isn't going to protect them from this.

Thanks for the breaking news. :rolleyes:

MadYaker wrote: »

Tell them

Yeh, I'll be passing them on my advice from you. :rolleyes:

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 04:55PM

paw patrol wrote: »

not just the young. everybody should.
I know I will

Same. Session in town this Saturday with the lads for one of their fortieth birthdayS. Can’t wait for it. Pub had said we can have our table from 5-9 and then depending on if it’s busy we might have to move to the terrace. Then prob last train home and find a session back home in someone’s.

John O.Groats · 15-09-2020 05:05PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Same. Session in town this Saturday with the lads for one of their fortieth birthdayS. Can’t wait for it. Pub had said we can have our table from 5-9 and then depending on if it’s busy we might have to move to the terrace. Then prob last train home and find a session back home in someone’s.

In that case I hope you are ready for more extended restrictions because if this type of disgraceful selfish behaviour continues that is exactly what will happen. Let`s hope that you or any of your buddies or family members don`t need to be admitted to hospital or worse a a result of your "session".

xl500 · 15-09-2020 05:05PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Same. Session in town this Saturday with the lads for one of their fortieth birthdayS. Can’t wait for it. Pub had said we can have our table from 5-9 and then depending on if it’s busy we might have to move to the terrace. Then prob last train home and find a session back home in someone’s.

Level 3 on the way

growleaves · 15-09-2020 05:08PM

xl500 wrote: »

Level 3 on the way

Nah it'll be Level 2.7 or 3.3

John O.Groats · 15-09-2020 05:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Encourage kids to sing Christmas Carols to spread the droplets

You might imagine that you are being smart with this type of response. In reality it is just yet another example of the ****ed up mentality of most of your cohort.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings