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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Seeing Trump lose to Greta would be pretty hilarious.


    LOL yeah, it would be a small consolation for Biden/Democrats losing the election :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    So not Trump specifically. Just the government of which he is a part. and two other governments.


    Well yes and I specifically stated that the second nomination was Trump among other people. I don't think anyone claimed the nomination was specifically for him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Monmouth University poll, rated A+ by 538, has a 9 point lead for Biden nationally in registered voters, and a 7 point lead in those "likely to vote"; https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_091020/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Mike Bloomberg to spend at least $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden.

    Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Great site here to play with:
    https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

    Essentially Trump needs to win most of the toss-up states, and a couple of the leaning states, and hope that nothing swings to Biden.

    Trump's chances are about 1/4 to 1/3.

    Will be interesting to see if it narrows as time goes on (the fact it hasn't narrowed much yet would be a worry for the GOP) and if the polling is accurately reflected this time, as they got caught on the hop last time for both Brexit and US election, so hopefully the "hidden" voter is being counted correctly this time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    MadYaker wrote: »
    It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.

    It's been almost 100 years since a Republican won the Presidency without Florida

    If Biden was to win Florida, all he'd need to do would be to hold the States that Clinton won - which, if he wins Florida is almost a given and pick up any one of the mid-west States that Trump won,. And he has good leads in all of them right now. Pennsylvania, Michigan etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,338 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    While it’s still long way to the election in terms of 2020 politics it is hard to see how trump is going to turn it around. Compared to the well oiled machine his team ran in 2016 this campaign is floundering by comparison. The law and order angle he keeps flogging is getting him nowhere. I think the fact that he can’t hold the big rallies is a problem for his campaign. They generated a lot of publicity and talking points.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He has two major problems.

    Firstly, he's now the incumbent with a Record to defend so he can't play the " What have you got to lose card" and secondly nobody really dislikes Joe Biden. They might disagree on Policy etc. but nobody hates him, most people, even Democrat voters didn't like Clinton, so the "Lock her up" stuff was an easy sell.

    Those were basically his key campaign points last time and neither are available to him now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Here is a funny one, if you in google type "does joe biden have dementia?" It never auto completes. If you do the same in bing it autocompletes afterJ. I suppose domestic interference is ok

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    MadYaker joined boards.ie in December 2010. Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.
    That doesn't mean he can't comment on it after.

    I found a post by MadYaker criticising giving Obama the prize - I believe him now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/12/pence-drops-out-of-trump-campaign-fundraiser-backed-by-qanon-supporters.html

    Interesting that Pence has pulled out of a campaign fundraiser backed by QAnon supporters.

    I wonder if the campaign will distance themselves from all future campaign events that are run or organised by QAnon supporters.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/12/pence-drops-out-of-trump-campaign-fundraiser-backed-by-qanon-supporters.html

    Interesting that Pence has pulled out of a campaign fundraiser backed by QAnon supporters.

    I wonder if the campaign will distance themselves from all future campaign events that are run or organised by QAnon supporters.

    Didn't you treat them as credible recently enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Didn't you treat them as credible recently enough?

    I didn't treat them as credible I merely stated that I've checked their posts for news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    silverharp wrote: »
    Here is a funny one, if you in google type "does joe biden have dementia?" It never auto completes. If you do the same in bing it autocompletes afterJ. I suppose domestic interference is ok
    Go on try the same for Donald Trump there


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I didn't treat them as credible I merely stated that I've checked their posts for news.

    If you're using them as a news source, you viewed them as somewhat credible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    MadYaker wrote: »
    It could all hinge on Florida. If Biden wins Florida it doesn’t look like Trump has any path to 270 electoral college votes.

    Biden is doing well among middle and upper class whites, Trump is doing well among the white working class and Cuban Americans.

    Fairly even split. One important piece might be the inroads Trump has made in Miami Dade countys Hispanic community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    If you're using them as a news source, you viewed them as somewhat credible...

    One of their posts led me to this Reddit post that contains a list of all US politicians Charged/Convicted of Sex Crimes against minors which I would consider newsworthy.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DivineRightOfKings/comments/cc3msy/here_is_a_list_of_all_us_politicians/

    So they are providing links to genuine news stories but I'm not naive enough to believe that everything that is posted there is true .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    One of their posts led me to this Reddit post that contains a list of all US politicians Charged/Convicted of Sex Crimes against minors which I would consider newsworthy.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DivineRightOfKings/comments/cc3msy/here_is_a_list_of_all_us_politicians/

    So they are providing links to genuine news stories but I'm not naive enough to believe that everything that is posted there is true .
    Some very questionable things on that list.....


    Strom Thurmond is listed as a Democrat, despite the fact that he represented Democrats for 10 years, and Republicans for the next 39.


    Jared Fogle as a "politician', or in any way a prominent Democrat, is something I'd want to see some evidence for.


    Bernie Ward was a radio host, not a politician.


    Dean Westlake is included, but not Roy Moore for some reason.


    That's just looking through very quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Some very questionable things on that list.....


    Strom Thurmond is listed as a Democrat, despite the fact that he represented Democrats for 10 years, and Republicans for the next 39.


    Jared Fogle as a "politician', or in any way a prominent Democrat, is something I'd want to see some evidence for.


    Bernie Ward was a radio host, not a politician.


    Dean Westlake is included, but not Roy Moore for some reason.


    That's just looking through very quickly.

    I haven't gone through every person on that list but, I have looked up some of them.

    I don't think it's unfair to say that the majority of the names on that list is accurate.

    I only posted it to prove that there are genuine newsworthy stuff being posted on QAnon. As I've previously stated I browse it for news not as an avid follower of what is posted as I know most of the stuff posted isn't true as there is often no evidence to verify the claims in their posts but, on this occasion that particular post seems to be true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Go on try the same for Donald Trump there

    why? I doubt there anywhere near the comparable searches

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    silverharp wrote: »
    why? I doubt there anywhere near the comparable searches

    Top searches on when I tried it were:

    Does Donald Trump have kids

    Does Joe Biden have beautox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    silverharp wrote: »
    why? I doubt there anywhere near the comparable searches
    Well if you try it in Bing, "Does Donald Trump have dementia" also auto-conpletes/gets suggested.

    I think they're very comparable searches, what with them both being elderly Presidential candidates going up against each other.

    Here's another one for you; try "did Donald Trump have a stroke?" in google search. Doesn't get suggested, but does on Bing. What does this prove then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Well if you try it in Bing, "Does Donald Trump have dementia" also auto-conpletes/gets suggested.

    I think they're very comparable searches, what with them both being elderly Presidential candidates going up against each other.

    Here's another one for you; try "did Donald Trump have a stroke?" in google search. Doesn't get suggested, but does on Bing. What does this prove then?

    LOL my top searches suggested for did Donald Trump / did Joe Biden:

    did Joe Biden marry his sister

    did Donald Trump shut down Roblox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump celebrates extrajudicial killing as 'the way it has to be' :eek:

    https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1304979813971656704?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,916 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Overheal wrote: »
    Trump celebrates extrajudicial killing as 'the way it has to be' :eek:

    https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1304979813971656704?s=20

    Well his response to covid deaths was

    "People are dying, it is what it is"

    So honestly this doesn't surprise me at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Overheal wrote: »
    Trump celebrates extrajudicial killing as 'the way it has to be' :eek:

    https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1304979813971656704?s=20

    Lol.

    Extrajudicial killing.

    Really embellish it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Overheal wrote: »
    Trump celebrates extrajudicial killing as 'the way it has to be' :eek:

    https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1304979813971656704?s=20

    I'd rather he was tried and convicted in court but I won't be losing any sleep over a cold blooded killer getting killed himself.

    He doesn't deserve any sympathy IMO and Trump knows that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I'd rather he was tried and convicted in court but I won't be losing any sleep over a cold blooded killer getting killed himself.

    He doesn't deserve any sympathy IMO and Trump knows that too.

    He didn't get to murder anyone else, didn't hit the police and his kids are now safe.

    Good riddance to the totalitarian prick, he dug his own hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,333 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    I'd rather he was tried and convicted in court

    As was his right under the Constitution but we already know that Trump only cares about "law and order" when it suits him.


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