Overrated films that people seem to think are a great but really are not

bodhrandude · 09-09-2020 01:57PM

This is going slightly off topic but all this talk about Grease, giving a representation of the 1950s, American Graffiti done this so much better, of course the difference being this wasn't a musical but it went on the span the sitcom Happy Days, when some of the cast of American Graffiti was used.

the purple tin · 10-09-2020 04:47PM

These live-action remakes Disney are making of the old animated classics seem to fall well short. Beauty and The Beast, Dumbo etc.

The new Lion King for instance was a totally pointless project, not a patch on the original.

It reflects Hollywood in general this last decade or so, nobody has had a fresh idea in ages. Everything is remakes and reboots of old films and never ending sequels.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-09-2020 05:04PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Forrest Gump is overrated. Another one with a bad message actually.

I mean, I thought that was a given at this stage? I only ever hear people saying how cheesy it is and expressing shock that it beat both Shawshank and Pulp Fiction at the Oscars.

Mad_maxx · 10-09-2020 05:13PM

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

I have to say I found this movie turgid and unbelievably boring. Watched it with my dad who was a fan of the original and he thought the same.

bored me senseless too

Mad_maxx · 10-09-2020 05:14PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

This is going slightly off topic but all this talk about Grease, giving a representation of the 1950s, American Graffiti done this so much better, of course the difference being this wasn't a musical but it went on the span the sitcom Happy Days, when some of the cast of American Graffiti was used.

American Graffiti did nothing for me at all

Ipso · 10-09-2020 05:22PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I do like 2001 myself, classic film

It can be hard work. The book is great, but the film leaves out the buts that explain what’s going on.

Capt'n Midnight · 10-09-2020 06:55PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

This is going slightly off topic but all this talk about Grease, giving a representation of the 1950s, American Graffiti done this so much better, of course the difference being this wasn't a musical but it went on the span the sitcom Happy Days, when some of the cast of American Graffiti was used.

What's that word for nostalgia for a place you've never been to ?

whisky_galore · 10-09-2020 07:06PM

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

I have to say I found this movie turgid and unbelievably boring. Watched it with my dad who was a fan of the original and he thought the same.

I wanted to like it but was bored utterly solid. An eternity of dialogue in smoke filled rooms. Great to know I wasn't alone.

murpho999 · 10-09-2020 08:54PM

the purple tin wrote: »

These live-action remakes Disney are making of the old animated classics seem to fall well short. Beauty and The Beast, Dumbo etc.

The new Lion King for instance was a totally pointless project, not a patch on the original.

It reflects Hollywood in general this last decade or so, nobody has had a fresh idea in ages. Everything is remakes and reboots of old films and never ending sequels.

But they're not over rated as they've been poorly critically received.

Thing is though people still keep paying the money to see the films so they'll keep making them, so who's to blame.

There's plenty of good films coming out though if you look outside of the blockbusters.

mousblaster17 · 10-09-2020 10:08PM

Greyfox wrote: »

I think people who think this way are missing out on some of the best things life has to offer

I've tried... really I have. But it's a lost cause for me. I have a mental block when it comes to sci-fi. Tenuous story lines where writers block is probably non-existant. I just cant stomach it.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 10-09-2020 10:14PM

Dont know if its overrated per se as it seemed to be divide opinion, but Mother! was the biggest steaming pile of self indulgent shyte I've ever seen.

joeguevara · 11-09-2020 09:56AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

What's that word for nostalgia for a place you've never been to ?

Is it a german word, fernweh or something?

Thelonious Monk · 11-09-2020 10:11AM

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

Dont know if its overrated per se as it seemed to be divide opinion, but Mother! was the biggest steaming pile of self indulgent shyte I've ever seen.

I saw that in the cinema and hadn't a clue what was going on, didn't cop the allegory until I read about it afterwards. I actually found it an enjoyable experience just because it was so absolutely mental, and I guess I could never get bored of watching J-Law.

Church on Tuesday · 11-09-2020 11:05AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I do like 2001 myself, classic film

It's a stunning film, a total game changer and way way ahead of it's time.

littlevillage · 11-09-2020 11:10AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I saw that in the cinema and hadn't a clue what was going on, didn't cop the allegory until I read about it afterwards. I actually found it an enjoyable experience just because it was so absolutely mental, and I guess I could never get bored of watching J-Law.

Are we on about #theFappening ?

Indeed J-Law was pratically burnt into my screen :-)

Sebastian Dangerfield · 11-09-2020 11:34AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I saw that in the cinema and hadn't a clue what was going on, didn't cop the allegory until I read about it afterwards. I actually found it an enjoyable experience just because it was so absolutely mental, and I guess I could never get bored of watching J-Law.

I'd say it was a pretty self-congratulatory production all around:

"Composer Ólafur Arnalds recounted the following story about the decision:

... he had spent a year writing the score for Darren Aronofsky's Mother! and at some point realised that the film was better with no music at all. He proceeded to convince Darren to delete everything. It takes a real, selfless artist to do that. To realise the piece is better without you. The most important part of creating art is the process, and Jóhann seemed to understand process. The score needed to be written first in order to realise that it was redundant. So in my view, mother! still has a score by Jóhann. The score is just silence ... deafening, genius silence.[16]"

Thelonious Monk · 11-09-2020 12:42PM

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

I'd say it was a pretty self-congratulatory production all around:

"Composer Ólafur Arnalds recounted the following story about the decision:

... he had spent a year writing the score for Darren Aronofsky's Mother! and at some point realised that the film was better with no music at all. He proceeded to convince Darren to delete everything. It takes a real, selfless artist to do that. To realise the piece is better without you. The most important part of creating art is the process, and Jóhann seemed to understand process. The score needed to be written first in order to realise that it was redundant. So in my view, mother! still has a score by Jóhann. The score is just silence ... deafening, genius silence.[16]"

Wow I didn't know that, I saw Olafur live last year in London, a great artist.

whisky_galore · 11-09-2020 07:41PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It was never going to. Even by 1916 it was scorned as material. It's still got some very good cinematic value to it and is more of a thing to study than to enjoy.

Meant as a joke.

Whoosh.

Katgurl · 14-09-2020 05:32PM

Clockwork Orange, scarface.

Sgt Hartman · 14-09-2020 05:37PM

A lot of people I know thought The Guard was hilarious, I found it quite average at best. Brendan Gleeson has been in much better films.

I also thought the It remake was pretty average also, and dull at times.

TCDStudent1 · 14-09-2020 05:38PM

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

A lot of people I know thought The Guard was hilarious, I found it quite average at best. Brendan Gleeson has been in much better films.

I also thought the It remake was pretty average also, and dull at times.

Thought the Guard was poor on first watch. However, I have watched t a couple of times since and definitely a film that has grown on me.

joeguevara · 15-09-2020 04:44AM

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

A lot of people I know thought The Guard was hilarious, I found it quite average at best. Brendan Gleeson has been in much better films.

I also thought the It remake was pretty average also, and dull at times.

Liked the guard. Entertaining if not great. Was looking forward to calvalry but left the cinema with a WTF feeling. Not great.

Parsnips · 15-09-2020 05:09AM

The Godfather
The Irishman

Yurt2 · 15-09-2020 05:13AM

Parsnips wrote: »

The Godfather
The Irishman

Asdfgh2020 · 15-09-2020 07:22AM

Yurt! wrote: »

Gangs of New York......absolute scutter....cliched bollocks of highest order

Titanic also a pile of ‘sh1te’.......

A clockwork orange ðŸŠ also makes my list.....struggled through a half hour of it and gave up.....can’t see the fuss......

littlevillage · 19-09-2020 10:26PM

Asdfgh2020 wrote: »

Gangs of New York......absolute scutter....cliched bollocks of highest order

Titanic also a pile of ‘sh1te’.......

A clockwork orange ðŸŠ also makes my list.....struggled through a half hour of it and gave up.....can’t see the fuss......

Sacrilege.

Gangs of New York is brilliant. Great story with stellar cast and huge Irish interest.
10 Oscar nominations in 2003.

Best Picture Oscar nomination that year, lost out to Chicago (seriously, WTF!! Daylight robbery) and Best actor Oscar nomination for DDL (He lost out to Adrien Brody) but should have probably won it that year too. (Imagine he would now have 4 best Actor statues)

Titanic and Clockwork Orange...I would have no opinion on, neither good or bad.

McGinniesta · 19-09-2020 11:11PM

Inception is a shytebag

Sgt Hartman · 22-09-2020 11:38PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Liked the guard. Entertaining if not great. Was looking forward to calvalry but left the cinema with a WTF feeling. Not great.

Calvary was pretty good but most of the characters in it are extremely unlikeable. Even Pat Shortt comes across as a total c u next Tuesday in it, especially the scene where he tells Brendan Gleeson that his "church is on fire" in a sneering manner.

trashcan · 23-09-2020 12:33AM

joeguevara wrote: »

Liked the guard. Entertaining if not great. Was looking forward to calvalry but left the cinema with a WTF feeling. Not great.

Agree on both counts. The Guard was good light hearted fun I thought, Brendan Gleason terrific as usual. Calvary I really didn't like. Worst film I've seen Brendan Gleason in. ( Looking forward to him as Trump.)

sabat · 23-09-2020 12:51AM

I put on The Empire Strikes Back-supposedly the best Star Wars- on a plane last year for a bit of nostalgia; I probably hadn't seen it in 35 years. Even as a kids movie it's piss poor. The dialogue between Luke Skywalker and r2d2 where he expositorily translates every beep is just excruciating to watch. The imperial walkers are the stupidest military vehicles I've ever seen-basically big metal donkeys, defeated by a bit of rope, which of course every starfighter carries.

Overrated films that people seem to think are a great but really are not

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