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VW ID.3

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  • #4102
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's my understanding that the basic Autopilot is better than the Korean system especially on bends + AP is upgradable by OTA updates.

    You're correct, Probably wouldn't/shouldn't spend the money on FSD especially in it's current form.


    I definitely wouldn't waste the money on FSD especially since the license is to your car purchase and not the car. If you sell an M3 with FSD, then the next owner will get FSD deactivated by Tesla.


    So you can't sell the car for more because it's got FSD installed, you can only sell it for the same as a stock M3 and you lost €7k.


    Now what I don't know is if you're going to another Tesla does the FSD license follow you, at least then you're not out €7k if you stick with Tesla

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #4103
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think for the majority of People that 3.5 Kw is a major deal. I'm still on 3.5 Kw with the i3 94 Ah driving 141-155 Kms daily and it works fine over a nights charge.

    Realistically I can't see for the majority of People needing more because the car can always be plugged in at 40 or 50% charge and at that, it has plenty of range that most People probably won't want more than a 50% charge daily either and the battery would be delighted with that too.

    Unless I came home from work and needed to go back out again quickly then even 7 kw isn't going to have a huge impact, 11 Kw on the other hand is quite good and will be appreciated at AC points.

    I think 3 phase should now be considered in new developments and considered the new norm in the coming years.


  • #4104
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    I definitely wouldn't waste the money on FSD especially since the license is to your car purchase and not the car. If you sell an M3 with FSD, then the next owner will get FSD deactivated by Tesla.


    So you can't sell the car for more because it's got FSD installed, you can only sell it for the same as a stock M3 and you lost €7k.


    Now what I don't know is if you're going to another Tesla does the FSD license follow you, at least then you're not out €7k if you stick with Tesla

    Yeah that's a pain in the ass, but extras are not worth a huge amount 2nd hand anyway, they mainly make the car more desirable.

    No you're right, I probably wouldn't spend that money and to be honest I am probably mad thinking about paying 40-47K on a new car anyway driving now 45-50K Kms a year, I really should keep the i3 another year or two and wait for a M3 LR Performance lol, just don't know what to do really, still got the 15K to pay off regardless so might refinance to save cash but that's 15 K to put to something newer lol, it never ends........


  • #4105
    Rusky rusky
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    KCross wrote: »
    Yes, 16A on a home charger IF you use that cable.

    If you have a tethered charger it wont matter.

    Yeah, I got 32A tethered wallbox at home.


  • #4106
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't think for the majority of People that 3.5 Kw is a major deal. I'm still on 3.5 Kw with the i3 94 Ah driving 141-155 Kms daily and it works fine over a nights charge.

    It's interesting, the 3.68kW you lose at home by having a 16A 3-Phase cable, is the same 3.68kW you gain and lots of people feel is useful by a have a car capable of 3-Phase charging.

    The only negative I see from only charging at 1x16A at home is that it's going to take 2 nights of charging at night rate to fully refill the battery after a long trip, perception wise it's not great.


  • #4107
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Ah it's poor form, for the incremental cost in such a high investment it's a no brainer for all RHD vehicles (predominately UK/IRL)


  • #4108
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    liamog wrote: »
    It's interesting, the 3.68kW you lose at home by having a 16A 3-Phase cable, is the same 3.68kW you gain and lots of people feel is useful by a have a car capable of 3-Phase charging.

    Have to admit I lost you there, try again ? maybe it's coffee time.
    liamog wrote: »
    The only negative I see from only charging at 1x16A at home is that it's going to take 2 nights of charging at night rate to fully refill the battery after a long trip, perception wise it's not great.

    3 Kw x 9 hrs of night rate = 27 Kwh worth of juice, can't see too many people needing this per day, yes, if they have a 64 Kwh Kona etc this will take a long time however, this 27 Kwh will still provide them with decent range daily and in fact could be 2-3 days worth for a lot of People.

    If you need to charge after a longer trip then yes it will take 20 hrs if you need 60 kwh, however, I can't see most people needing a full 60 Kwh the next day, in this case 7 Kw would indeed be beneficial but as I said I can drive to work and back daily and 3.5 Kw is fine, If I had more inefficient model S driving at 120 Km/hr then I might also benefit by having 7 Kw.

    On the road on longer trips 11 Kw is very useful as I know myself, means less reliance on the need to stop and wait for DC charges or greatly lessens the need to DC charge.


  • #4109
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Have to admit I lost you there, try again ? maybe it's coffee time.

    Standard on a lot of cars now is the 7.2kW on board charger, with an optional upgrade to the three phase 11kW charger.
    There are a few people who swear by the 11kW on board charger as they think it's really useful for public AC charging, it's only 3.6kW over the standard model.
    At the same time we're saying it's probably ok to only have 3.6kW at home with the borked cable.

    My main requirement is to fit a full charge in the 10 hour night rate window, that's based on my preference of plugging in the car less times a week.


  • #4110
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    KCross wrote: »
    Looked at a 1st Plus yesterday and it had Conti's.

    So, I guess they are using multiple suppliers... classic bargaining chip I guess to get the price down.



    I found the regen to be only OK in both D and B. Certainly not strong or anywhere close to one pedal driving but its fine.

    I'm more interested in comfort/seats/charge-speed etc.


    Yes the tyres seem to be various, at least they they are all good ones.


    Concerning regen, I only want zero and a lowish level (Enough so the car doesn't speed up when descending a long hill). Still not sure if the ID.3 has zero. I don't like 1 pedal driving, preferring the brake pedal regen when having to stop. In our Ioniq I only ever use 0 or 1.


    Just what I am used to...


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  • #4111
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    liamog wrote: »
    Standard on a lot of cars now is the 7.2kW on board charger, with an optional upgrade to the three phase 11kW charger.
    There are a few people who swear by the 11kW on board charger as they think it's really useful for public AC charging, it's only 3.6kW over the standard model.
    At the same time we're saying it's probably ok to only have 3.6kW at home with the borked cable.

    My main requirement is to fit a full charge in the 10 hour night rate window, that's based on my preference of plugging in the car less times a week.

    It's whatever suits you is what matters and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise but someone might not want to spend more money, possibly hundreds extra to change at 7 Kw at home when in reality 3.5 Kw if they already have 3.5 Kw might suit them fine except for a couple of occasions and at that, if they rin into peak rate electricity for a couple of hrs it's no big deal.

    If someone is buying a new home charge point then I would get the 7 Kw charge point with tethered cable, problem solved.

    Regarding 7 Kw vs 11, yes it does make a difference, 11 Kw is more efficient so you loose less so it's more than 3.5 Kw closer to 4 Kw per hr.

    Closer to 4 Kwh per hr or 8 Kwh in 2 hrs in the difference that's 40 Kms in the difference and could be the difference between needing a fast charge or not, less time on a fast charger or not needing a fast charger at all.

    At the end of the day most People will charge at home most of the time so if they think 7.5 Kw is worth it then they should definitely go ahead and get 7.5 Kw at home it's just not a huge deal either way considering most people won't need the daily range more than what a 3.5 Kw charger can provide. 7.5 Kw allows someone to charge up as fast as possible should they need to at home.


  • #4112
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    liamog wrote: »
    Standard on a lot of cars now is the 7.2kW on board charger, with an optional upgrade to the three phase 11kW charger.
    There are a few people who swear by the 11kW on board charger as they think it's really useful for public AC charging, it's only 3.6kW over the standard model.
    At the same time we're saying it's probably ok to only have 3.6kW at home with the borked cable.

    My main requirement is to fit a full charge in the 10 hour night rate window, that's based on my preference of plugging in the car less times a week.


    One thing I'll say for plugging the car in every night is that it's a lot harder to steal. The car is literally locked in place

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #4113
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    eagerv wrote: »

    Concerning regen, I only want zero and a lowish level (Enough so the car doesn't speed up when descending a long hill). Still not sure if the ID.3 has zero. I don't like 1 pedal driving, preferring the brake pedal regen when having to stop. In our Ioniq I only ever use 0 or 1.


    Just what I am used to...

    I didnt see an option for disabling regen. D does have regen and B is stronger.

    There arent paddles to turn regen up/down on the fly and in the short time I had in the car I didnt see it in the menus but it might be there somewhere... there are alot of menus!


  • #4114
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Regarding 7 Kw vs 11, yes it does make a difference, 11 Kw is more efficient so you loose less so it's more than 3.5 Kw closer to 4 Kw per hr.


    I'd say where it makes a difference is using a destination charger when other people are looking for it. In 4 hours you can recover 44kWh (75%SoC) versus 28kWh (48% SoC) for a 58kWh ID.3. That means you can vacate the charger sooner and give someone else more time on it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #4115
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    KCross wrote: »
    I didnt see an option for disabling regen. D does have regen and B is stronger.

    There arent paddles to turn regen up/down on the fly and in the short time I had in the car I didnt see it in the menus but it might be there somewhere... there are alot of menus!


    Yes until we get the cars will be difficult to know what's available.
    Will be happy enough with a low level of regen in D, will be similar I suppose to a standard ICE which is safer for many. For a lot of my rural driving I would prefer to let the car freewheel for max efficiency hence I love the zero regen on other makes.


  • #4116
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    I'd say where it makes a difference is using a destination charger when other people are looking for it. In 4 hours you can recover 44kWh (75%SoC) versus 28kWh (48% SoC) for a 58kWh ID.3. That means you can vacate the charger sooner and give someone else more time on it

    I'd say vacating chargers to make them available for others will be the least thing on most People's minds.

    All the PHEVs with tiny batteries are mostly connected to them these days anyway so they are much harder to find available now.


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  • #4117
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'd say vacating chargers to make them available for others will be the least thing on most People's minds.

    All the PHEVs with tiny batteries are mostly connected to them these days anyway so they are much harder to find available now.


    Yeah, I'm assuming everyone is being a good citizen, I live in hope of seeing it someday

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #4118
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm assuming everyone is being a good citizen, I live in hope of seeing it someday

    Unfortunately too many people have the "I'm alright Jack" attitude. I can't ever see this change.


  • #4119
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    At least it won't be Kuga's hogging the chargers....

    525795.jpeg


  • #4120
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    At least it won't be Kuga's hogging the chargers....

    If someone can get a free charge, they will charge. :D


  • #4121
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    At least it won't be Kuga's hogging the chargers....


    Typical Ford 'engineering', they probably only designed it to handle 110V :rolleyes:


    So since Ford's PHEVs have lost the PHE part, I assume they will count as typical ICE vehicles for EU emission targets and Ford will be fined accordingly?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • #4122
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Mod Note: Not the thread to discuss the relative merits of a REX, if you want one start one.

    Rex thread started https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058111937


  • #4123
    Davy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭Davy


    Not just Teslas that have panel gaps apparently. This was not a full production model though.


    Source:> https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/elektroauto/vw-id-3-qualitaetsprobleme-test-verarbeitung-elektronik/
    Electronics still very "unfinished"
    Hard and dirt-sensitive plastics are installed in the cockpit. The inside of the bonnet looks as if it has been painted with the spray can, the testers criticize. The electronics show clear weaknesses in the test car, which is close to series production. The infotainment moves up only slowly, the navigation system often remains disoriented for several hundred meters. The system does not retrieve online services at all. The ten-inch monitor is relatively far away from the driver and is therefore somewhat difficult to operate. Dodging voice control is of little pleasure, because the system does not work error-free and quickly.



    Further info:> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-review/volkswagens-new-electric-car-panned-by-germanys-leading-test-publication-idUSKBN2601AS
    Uneven panel gaps, an infotainment system which takes a long time to fire up, and a navigation system which fails to work were other features which the publication help up for criticism.

    The powertrain and ride were good, but the operating range was only 359 kilometers, the publication said.


  • #4124
    glynf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭glynf


    Anyone trading in an egolf for an ID3? Thinking of changing our 2017 36kWh for the 1st plus. Seems like a drop in spec for the basic model-no reversing cam or auto dim mirror seems a bit scabby on a €30k car..


  • #4125
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Davy wrote: »
    Not just Teslas that have panel gaps apparently. This was not a full production model though.


    Source:> https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/elektroauto/vw-id-3-qualitaetsprobleme-test-verarbeitung-elektronik/





    Further info:> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-review/volkswagens-new-electric-car-panned-by-germanys-leading-test-publication-idUSKBN2601AS

    Yeah I'm not gonna pass judgement on a pre production model, not representative of the final article.

    If owners start reporting quality issues then I'll be concerned

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #4126
    rx8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    It was a close run thing but I finally got the car this evening. The 1.9% apr rate and the 3 free months of finance were making the system say NO. They figured something out eventually and I got to take it home today.
    Really impressed with it. So many menus, colours and sounds to play with. Comfort mode is well fast enough. Didn't dare try Sport mode yet. Driving is so easy, seats are really comfortable and the armrests are great. Rear windows are really tinted so it's a bit dark in the back.


  • #4127
    rx8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    Some pictures...


  • #4128
    jonnythefox
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭jonnythefox


    rx8 wrote: »
    Some pictures...

    looks really well rx8. well wear !
    I was told today its going to be Thursday 17th before I collect mine. A bit bummed TBH.
    would you mind sharing what finance you went with. I was going to go with 30% PCP. but now since the interest drop to 1.9% I am thinking the ID plan maybe a better option?


  • #4129
    pearsefitz
    Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭pearsefitz


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    looks really well rx8. well wear !
    I was told today its going to be Thursday 17th before I collect mine. A bit bummed TBH.
    would you mind sharing what finance you went with. I was going to go with 30% PCP. but now since the interest drop to 1.9% I am thinking the ID plan maybe a better option?
    I would also be interested in that. But more so the GMFV (last payment). Thank you


  • #4130
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    looks really well rx8. well wear !
    I was told today its going to be Thursday 17th before I collect mine. A bit bummed TBH.
    would you mind sharing what finance you went with. I was going to go with 30% PCP. but now since the interest drop to 1.9% I am thinking the ID plan maybe a better option?

    30% as a deposit ? no I wouldn't, the idea of PCP especially is to put as little cash into the car over the 3 years as possible, the higher the GFMV at the end the better too because this means you are paying as little as possible.

    Just remember that if you want to change again in 3 years this GFMV is meaningless and something you don't have to pay.

    To me as a high mileage driver PCP is less worth while.


  • #4131
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    30% as a deposit ? no I wouldn't, the idea of PCP especially is to put as little cash into the car over the 3 years as possible, the higher the GFMV at the end the better too because this means you are paying as little as possible.

    Just remember that if you want to change again in 3 years this GFMV is meaningless and something you don't have to pay.

    To me as a high mileage driver PCP is less worth while.

    Is the trade in price less GMFV not the value of your next deposit though?

    So if VW offer you €20k in three years for your base ID3 and your GMFV is €15k you have €5k as a deposit for the next car?


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  • #4132
    jonnythefox
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭jonnythefox


    Deleted User wrote: »
    30% as a deposit ? no I wouldn't, the idea of PCP especially is to put as little cash into the car over the 3 years as possible, the higher the GFMV at the end the better too because this means you are paying as little as possible.

    Just remember that if you want to change again in 3 years this GFMV is meaningless and something you don't have to pay.

    To me as a high mileage driver PCP is less worth while.

    Hmmm.... PCP could be looked at in a different manner. I would say the more initial deposit you put down the less your monthly's are. This then gives you a lower GFMV which should give you equity in the vehicle when trading in.
    But I do get your point that some people want to put as little cash as possible into the car.
    Bottom line is your paying one way or the other unfortunately.


  • #4133
    rx8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    looks really well rx8. well wear !
    I was told today its going to be Thursday 17th before I collect mine. A bit bummed TBH.
    would you mind sharing what finance you went with. I was going to go with 30% PCP. but now since the interest drop to 1.9% I am thinking the ID plan maybe a better option?

    I went with the ID Plan. They wanted me to wait until tomorrow but I wasn't budging. They had a group call with vw Ireland top dogs to try and figure a way around the problem. Eventually they decided that they would have to draw up a 36 month contract to keep the computer and VW bank happy and they are going to refund me 3 months payments upfront to cover it. Not ideal I know but, I wasn't leaving without the car today. The toll tag and the Insurance were all changed over to the new car so I didn't want the hassle of trying to change it back again. They do tell you though that you won't have any equity in the car at the end.


  • #4134
    Irishjg
    Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭Irishjg


    Just looking at RX8 pics. Are the wheel nuts non standard ? If you need to take off a wheel to replace a worn or badly punctured tyre is it going to be a RPITA. I remember a few years back Peugeot had some non standard nut on their wheels and it caused all sorts of hassle for a few unfortunate sods. Are these something similar or just the way I’m looking at the pic.


  • #4135
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Is the trade in price less GMFV not the value of your next deposit though?

    If you have a decent trade in, that's fine, but I wouldn't put more than the 10% in cash to a car on a PCP without a trade in.

    With PCP the GFMV is the balloon you must pay to own the car or you don't have to pay it if you get another PCP on a new car, so, as I said, the idea and the real selling point of PCP is that it's designed to put as little cash into the car as possible and a low GFMV means you're paying too much per month or you're driving too much and a High GFMV and low monthly payments means you're paying as little as possible especially if doing low yearly Kms. Beware of PCP that has low GFMV and high monthly payments with low yearly kms.
    TitianGerm wrote: »
    So if VW offer you €20k in three years for your base ID3 and your GMFV is €15k you have €5k as a deposit for the next car?

    Yes you have 5 K towards your car but it is very foolish to think you will have more for the car than the GFMV which is very carefully calculated, assume and budget that you do not and will not have more than the GFMV after 3 years and the agreed mileage.

    If in doubt just go with regular finance.


  • #4136
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Irishjg wrote: »
    Just looking at RX8 pics. Are the wheel nuts non standard ? If you need to take off a wheel to replace a worn or badly punctured tyre is it going to be a RPITA. I remember a few years back Peugeot had some non standard nut on their wheels and it caused all sorts of hassle for a few unfortunate sods. Are these something similar or just the way I’m looking at the pic.

    They look like the little plastic caps on my Golf that slide into the wheel to cover the nut.


  • #4137
    PaulRyan97
    Registered Users Posts: 483 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    Irishjg wrote: »
    Just looking at RX8 pics. Are the wheel nuts non standard ? If you need to take off a wheel to replace a worn or badly punctured tyre is it going to be a RPITA. I remember a few years back Peugeot had some non standard nut on their wheels and it caused all sorts of hassle for a few unfortunate sods. Are these something similar or just the way I’m looking at the pic.

    Looks to just be the rubber caps Volkswagen puts over their nuts. They should be the standard nuts underneath.


  • #4138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    Hmmm.... PCP could be looked at in a different manner. I would say the more initial deposit you put down the less your monthly's are. This then gives you a lower GFMV which should give you equity in the vehicle when trading in.
    But I do get your point that some people want to put as little cash as possible into the car.
    Bottom line is your paying one way or the other unfortunately.

    Yes that's true, the more deposit the less monthly payments, but you got to make sure you're paying as little as possible especially if doing low yearly Kms.

    Assume absolutely no equity in the car above the GFMV, this is a real mistake a lot of People make, the GFMV is guaranteed on paper, anything above is not so do not expect anything extra as a deposit towards another car, if unsure do not sign a PCP contract and go with regular finance and stretch it out over 5 years and if that seems like a stretch then PCP isn't for you, look, if you can't pay for a car by regular finance then don't go with PCP, PCP is great, but you got to know what you're getting into and with regular finance you will know exactly what you can and can't afford, PCP you got to know what you're getting into and the car has to be immaculate at the end too.

    If you do go with PCP get your yearly mileage calculated as close as possible so there are no surprises at the end.


  • #4139
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    At 1.9 percent APR you’re better off taking the PCP and then refinancing the balloon rather than paying 8/9 percent on a 5 year loan.


  • #4140
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Really great to see another brand EV landing in Ireland. Well wear to everyone.


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  • #4141
    jonnythefox
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭jonnythefox


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes that's true, the more deposit the less monthly payments, but you got to make sure you're paying as little as possible especially if doing low yearly Kms.

    Assume absolutely no equity in the car above the GFMV, this is a real mistake a lot of People make, the GFMV is guaranteed on paper, anything above is not so do not expect anything extra as a deposit towards another car, if unsure do not sign a PCP contract and go with regular finance and stretch it out over 5 years and if that seems like a stretch then PCP isn't for you, look, if you can't pay for a car by regular finance then don't go with PCP, PCP is great, but you got to know what you're getting into and with regular finance you will know exactly what you can and can't afford, PCP you got to know what you're getting into and the car has to be immaculate at the end too.

    If you do go with PCP get your yearly mileage calculated as close as possible so there are no surprises at the end.

    Absolutely agree ! You need to understand what you're getting yourself into with PCP. This will be my 5th time going into a PCP contract. I would say once your in the PCP cycle its hard to get out!


  • #4142
    jonnythefox
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭jonnythefox


    L-M wrote: »
    At 1.9 percent APR you’re better off taking the PCP and then refinancing the balloon rather than paying 8/9 percent on a 5 year loan.

    Does anyone know the monthly's for the 1.9% ID plan at both 0% deposit and 10% deposit.
    I asked my dealer today but he was saying he is still waiting for the new interest rate to go live.


  • #4143
    rx8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    Does anyone know the monthly's for the 1.9% ID plan at both 0% deposit and 10% deposit.
    I asked my dealer today but he was saying he is still waiting for the new interest rate to go live.

    I'm doing the 10% one and it's €520 a month.


  • #4144
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,274 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    jonnythefox wrote: »
    Does anyone know the monthly's for the 1.9% ID plan at both 0% deposit and 10% deposit.
    I asked my dealer today but he was saying he is still waiting for the new interest rate to go live.

    If you have the gmfv any online pcp calc will do it for you


  • #4145
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    rx8 wrote: »
    Some pictures...

    Just a small niggle with the front. The lower part of the bumper has those diamond shaped indents; fricken loads of them and they're quite deep. Am I the only one that sees a cleaning nightmare? When they get fly splat and diesel grime in them, will they not be a right pain to get/keep clean?


  • #4146
    adunis
    Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭adunis


    Went for a test drive yesterday.
    Wasnt blown away by any stretch of the imagination.
    That said it is a very nice car.
    Ride very firm
    Handles well
    Very quiet
    I like the haptic controls a lot.
    Doesn't FEEL particularly quick
    Toy count is everything you could reasonably want.
    Interior space is certainly better than a golf
    But nowhere like what was touted.
    There is no arguing with the range/power/battery /price equation it is excellent value,the 1st that is
    Paying 7k more for the plus is just nuts.
    The max ,well that may as well be a 60kwh leaf.
    Just buy a model 3 at that money.

    I'll be sticking with the 28 ioniq till someone comes up with a better option, primarily because of the interior space.


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  • #4147
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    rx8 wrote: »
    Some pictures...

    525827.jpg

    I'm not overly familiar with the interiors and i've only ever really seen the LHD versions, but the light controls seem a bit squished in there on the RHD version. Guess I thought they'd be mirrored onto the right side of the steering wheel, but then headlight controls are always on the left in VAG.
    Could be the pic making things looks cramped.


  • #4148
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,337 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You have the light controls as normal on the stalk can't see much use for the buttons.
    I thought the screen was mirrored wrong but after using it's no biggie you don't need to stretch to hit the menu button all within easy reach, leaves more of the display for the driver.


  • #4149
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    525827.jpg

    I'm not overly familiar with the interiors and i've only ever really seen the LHD versions, but the light controls seem a bit squished in there on the RHD version. Guess I thought they'd be mirrored onto the right side of the steering wheel, but then headlight controls are always on the left in VAG.
    Could be the pic making things looks cramped.

    No, it's not the pic. The control is in a very odd position and not in a place that your hand would naturally fall to. I think the reasoning is that you'll never need to touch it anyway.


  • #4150
    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Silent Running wrote: »
    Just a small niggle with the front. The lower part of the bumper has those diamond shaped indents; fricken loads of them and they're quite deep. Am I the only one that sees a cleaning nightmare? When they get fly splat and diesel grime in them, will they not be a right pain to get/keep clean?


    As someone who enjoys cleaning and detailing my car I agree.
    However I think I will have a soft cleaning brush handy when washing this area, not something I would normally use on a car.


  • #4151
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Dropped the e-Up! into Frank Keane for a pre-sale service today, they had a line-up of 4 ID.3 outside and were doing a photoshoot.


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