Fox killed by car

Joeseph Balls · 06-09-2020 08:58PM

golfball37 wrote: »

I’d could count on one hand the amount of people I know with a registered shotgun and that’s the way it should be.

And that's a good thing, at least they're not shouting about it

Joeseph Balls · 06-09-2020 08:59PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Those hunts are nothing but a hassle.

That's the general consensus among land owners around here too

Galwayguy35 · 06-09-2020 09:03PM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

That's the general consensus among land owners around here too

There was trouble with them frightening livestock on the day of the hunt and stray dogs who got lost wandering around a few days later when the owners were long gone.

Joeseph Balls · 06-09-2020 09:06PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

There was trouble with them frightening livestock on the day of the hunt and stray dogs who got lost wandering around a few days later when the owners were long gone.

More so entering fields without permission around here, and the sense of entitlement to do so, when a gate was left open and a few cattle got in and trampled crops was kind of the last call around here.
Not all are like this I know but very few allowed around here

riclad · 06-09-2020 11:37PM

I would cycle through town at 11pm I would see a fox walking around I think he lives in trinity college. I saw him 3 times in the city centre.

skooterblue2 · 06-09-2020 11:41PM

bobbyy gee wrote: »

you can sell the fox fur for 25 euro

Take the Fox to the taxidermist. He will look great in the hall.

skooterblue2 · 06-09-2020 11:42PM

riclad wrote: »

I would cycle through town at 11pm I would see a fox walking around I think he lives in trinity college. I saw him 3 times in the city centre.

Where does he go when he wants a ride?

golfball37 · 06-09-2020 11:58PM

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Where does he go when he wants a ride?

Coppers

skooterblue2 · 07-09-2020 12:11AM

golfball37 wrote: »

Coppers

Are there foxes in there? or just dogs?

Ipso · 07-09-2020 04:18AM

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Are there foxes in there? or just dogs?

Depends on the amount if drink taken/having been to Flannerys beforehand.

ohnonotgmail · 07-09-2020 09:39AM

golfball37 wrote: »

They were teenage girls on horseback. Where I come from that is far more normal and gentile than giving them guns. They are not doing it for fun, it’s the only way we know how down here.

I’d could count on one hand the amount of people I know with a registered shotgun and that’s the way it should be.

if hunting is the only way you know to control foxes then ignorance seems to be a bigger problem than the fox hunting.

gozunda · 07-09-2020 09:57AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

Said by Authur Oscar Wilde who was locked up for sodomy :pac:

gozunda · 07-09-2020 10:07AM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

More so entering fields without permission around here, and the sense of entitlement to do so, when a gate was left open and a few cattle got in and trampled crops was kind of the last call around here.
Not all are like this I know but very few allowed around here

Farmer here. Not having a go but thats a generalisation. The hunt here always ask permission. And are good about gates etc And yes they have taken out problematic / diseased foxes predating on livestock quickly and efficiently. I see no 'entitlement' either. Most of those who I know who hunt are ordinary joe soaps. The bs that people talk about foxes / hunting seems to come from disney land ðŸ™„

And to the OP more foxes get smashed up on roads than are ever killed by hunting. In ireland most foxes are shot. A very small number are hunted.

Discodog · 07-09-2020 10:09AM

golfball37 wrote: »

They were teenage girls on horseback. Where I come from that is far more normal and gentile than giving them guns. They are not doing it for fun, it’s the only way we know how down here.

I’d could count on one hand the amount of people I know with a registered shotgun and that’s the way it should be.

I live in the countryside & none of the teenage girls around here would want to kill wildlife for fun. Don't tar us with your brush.

When Boris was Mayor of London he said that they would cull the foxes. He quickly changed his mind when a poll revealed that most Londoners liked having them around.

Trouser Snake · 07-09-2020 10:14AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Those hunts are nothing but a hassle.

The contempt and disregard they show for others' property, primarily fencing, is disgusting.
One horse was put down on land near us after suffering a fall, poachers following that hunt stripped the meat off the dead horse and left the carcass. Don't know the full ins and outs but it took days to remove the dead animal.

golfball37 · 07-09-2020 10:15AM

Discodog wrote: »

I live in the countryside & none of the teenage girls around here would want to kill wildlife for fun. Don't tar us with your brush.

When Boris was Mayor of London he said that they would cull the foxes. He quickly changed his mind when a poll revealed that most Londoners liked having them around.

Again what’s with the for fun assertion? If ye have predisposed biases about people’s motivations, people ye don’t know btw, then no debate is possible.

Discodog · 07-09-2020 10:34AM

golfball37 wrote: »

Again what’s with the for fun assertion? If ye have predisposed biases about people’s motivations, people ye don’t know btw, then no debate is possible.

I am not going to turn this into a hunting debate. If a teenage girl believes that she is doing something useful to control the fox population then she should look at the research. Next will come the usual "townies don't understand argument".

But are you suggesting that fox hunts should be charging through cities ?

Ficheall · 07-09-2020 10:34AM

golfball37 wrote: »

Again what’s with the for fun assertion? If ye have predisposed biases about people’s motivations, people ye don’t know btw, then no debate is possible.

robertpatterson wrote: »

you should get out with your local pack sometime its a great day out

Though, granted, Robert did claim it makes no difference to the fox whether it's shot or chased and ripped apart by dogs, so maybe the righteous foxhunters would just like to disown him.

gozunda · 07-09-2020 10:35AM

Discodog wrote: »

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When Boris was Mayor of London he said that they would cull the foxes. He quickly changed his mind when a poll revealed that most Londoners liked having them around.

And so there it now falls to private pest control companies to remove and kill foxes who are now out of control in cities like London where thousands of foxes are legally killed each year. And no controling such foxes is not "for fun".

The culling of foxes is permitted by law and it is in fact illegal to live capture foxes and release them...

Why control foxes in London?

As some of the photos on this page display sarcoptic mange is a significant disease that affects not only the fox but also pets (cats and dogs) and on occasion humans. It is a highly contagious disease and is caused by a parasitic mite.

Alongside the very visible mange, foxes also carry lungworm which is fatal when transmitted in both cats and dogs. The lungworm is a parasitic nematode worm affects the respiratory system in dogs and cats. Canine heartworm can also be transferred to dogs from foxes. Scabies and fleas are also common in areas where populations of foxes occur. There are also some diseases which can be transmitted through contact with fox faeces, the most serious of which is toxocariasis.

https://www.environpestcontrol.co.uk/pest-control-london/fox-removal-london/

Edit: For anyone under the impression foxes are just little cute doggies. Heres what a quick Google search came up with.

https://i.imgflip.com/4e3xm7.jpg

https://davidjmobrien.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/fox-roe-fawn.jpg

http://www.bbc.com/news/10251349

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276529/Fox-attacks-baby-First-picture-week-old-Denny-Dolan-finger-ripped-Bromley-home.html

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irishman-killed-fox-stamping-death-9527344

https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/killer-urban-fox-attacks-baby-bouncer-sneaking-family-home-7314171/

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/elderly-woman-needs-twenty-stitches-after-vicious-fox-attack-34370130.html

dotsman · 07-09-2020 11:46AM

gozunda wrote: »

And so in the UK it now falls to private pest control companies to remove and kill foxes who are now out of control in cities like London where thousands of foxes are legally killed each year. And no controling foxes is not "for fun". That's just the usual bollix spouted by anti-everthing nutters tbh.

https://www.environpestcontrol.co.uk/pest-control-london/fox-removal-london/

Wow, a company that makes money from people wanting to kill foxes writes an article justifying the killing of foxes.

gozunda wrote: »

Edit: For anyone under the impression foxes are just little cute doggies. Heres what a quick Google search came up with.

https://i.imgflip.com/4e3xm7.jpg

https://davidjmobrien.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/fox-roe-fawn.jpg

http://www.bbc.com/news/10251349

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276529/Fox-attacks-baby-First-picture-week-old-Denny-Dolan-finger-ripped-Bromley-home.html

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irishman-killed-fox-stamping-death-9527344

https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/15/killer-urban-fox-attacks-baby-bouncer-sneaking-family-home-7314171/

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/news/elderly-woman-needs-twenty-stitches-after-vicious-fox-attack-34370130.html

Those links are laughable.

The Tetrarch · 07-09-2020 12:03PM

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Ah yes, the local English gentry fed your grandparents their scraps and your family/village is forever in their debt.

Animal abuse is animal abuse.
Being chased, hunted and savaged by a pack of dogs really shows their character.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a 100% carnivore, but nobody in Ireland eats foxes.
So they abuse animals for sport, it's completely unnecessary.

Another person telling country people they have no clue.
Many want to get rid of the hunt, and others want horse racing banned.
Then you must kill all the horses.
Plenty of horses are not good enough to race.
You could keep all the useless horses in a big field for the rest of their lives, with you paying (possibly not). Or they could be used for recreation.
This is what happens. The hunt chases the fox and in almost all cases the fox gets away.
The fox is chased by horses and hounds. The horses eat grass and grain. The dogs eat horses.
The hounds (hunt pack) eat horses, culled because they are not good enough, or because they are too old, or because they are finished racing and not used for breeding.

The lifspan of a fox is one to three years, but can be up to ten years.
A hunt is visible, but foxes and other animals do not live long undisturbed lives until old age takes them.
What offends people is seeing the fox chased. They are offended for a minute, then stop thinking about the foxes, the hounds, the horses.
In nature, the slow, the old, and the weak get culled by carnivores, and the rest survive. This is animal abuse.

My grandparents ran a pub and a farm, and as far as I know did not feed on scraps from the English gentry.

Allinall · 07-09-2020 12:09PM

Has nobody asked the pertinent question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

gozunda · 07-09-2020 12:34PM

dotsman wrote: »

Wow, a company that makes money from people wanting to kill foxes writes an article justifying the killing of foxes.
Those links are laughable.

There's hundreds of companies who legally remove and kill foxes all over the UK. You got a personal problem with all them as well.? And btw thats not an 'article' - thats the service they provide. And why foxes can be a problem. And yes its legal.

And you think foxes with sarcoptic mange and toxoplasmosis in urban areas is funny? And reports of rogue foxes predating pets, attacking babies and oaps are 'Laughable".Really?

And ditto the BBC, the Independent and wildlife photographers reporting on same Yes?

You seem to have a bigger issue with people tbh. Notably calling others "vile cúnts " in this thread. And wishing people dead. Nice attitude mate.

If so maybe just stick with the disney films like Bambi for now. But wait looks like foxes eat fawns as well...

https://i.imgflip.com/4e45k2.jpg

Oh deer ....

Feisar · 07-09-2020 12:41PM

golfball37 wrote: »

They were teenage girls on horseback. Where I come from that is far more normal and gentile than giving them guns. They are not doing it for fun, it’s the only way we know how down here.

I’d could count on one hand the amount of people I know with a registered shotgun and that’s the way it should be.

What's wrong with guns? I'd say way more people have them than you know. I have five, I don't advertise it though.

Chiparus · 07-09-2020 12:49PM

golfball37 wrote: »

There’s a lot of them around lately, a lot of chickens being killed in my locality at night. We need a controlled cull like we do with deer. Thankfully I saw a local hunt last week but small numbers only 3 horses and about ten hounds but we need more.

Seems quare out of season?

Chiparus · 07-09-2020 12:51PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Another person telling country people they have no clue.
Many want to get rid of the hunt, and others want horse racing banned.
Then you must kill all the horses.
Plenty of horses are not good enough to race.
You could keep all the useless horses in a big field for the rest of their lives, with you paying (possibly not). Or they could be used for recreation.
This is what happens. The hunt chases the fox and in almost all cases the fox gets away.
The fox is chased by horses and hounds. The horses eat grass and grain. The dogs eat horses.
The hounds (hunt pack) eat horses, culled because they are not good enough, or because they are too old, or because they are finished racing and not used for breeding.

The lifspan of a fox is one to three years, but can be up to ten years.
A hunt is visible, but foxes and other animals do not live long undisturbed lives until old age takes them.
What offends people is seeing the fox chased. They are offended for a minute, then stop thinking about the foxes, the hounds, the horses.
In nature, the slow, the old, and the weak get culled by carnivores, and the rest survive. This is animal abuse.

My grandparents ran a pub and a farm, and as far as I know did not feed on scraps from the English gentry.

Remember what they wanted to castrate all the male deer in the phoenix park , to avoid a cull.

Penfailed · 07-09-2020 01:00PM

gozunda wrote: »

rogue foxes predating pets

Is that like a fox going for a date with a pet before the actual date...or is that the fox being around the place prior to pets? I'd imagine foxes probably do pre-date pets to be fair.

golfball37 · 07-09-2020 01:06PM

Chiparus wrote: »

Seems quare out of season?

The official hunt season starts in November but cub hunting is legal from August

gozunda · 07-09-2020 01:09PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Is that like a fox going for a date with a pet before the actual date...or is that the fox being around the place prior to pets? I'd imagine foxes probably do pre-date pets to be fair.

Just for you. Heres a picture! .... lol

https://i.imgflip.com/4e47xd.jpg

Maybe this pair :eek:

Penfailed · 07-09-2020 01:12PM

gozunda wrote: »

Just for you. Heres a picture! .... lol

I was messing

Fox killed by car

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