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Should Drogheda be a city?

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  • 05-09-2020 2:42pm
    #1
    its_steve116
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    Largest town in the State; bigger than Dundalk, Kilkenny or Navan and catching up with Waterford population wise.

    Do you think Drogheda should be made a city? 73 votes

    Yeehah!
    82% 60 votes
    You gotta be kidding.
    17% 13 votes


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    JasonStatham
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    its_steve116 wrote: »
    Largest town in the State; bigger than Dundalk, Kilkenny or Navan and catching up with Waterford population wise.

    Is it not already a city?


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    Amirani
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    Nah, not when there's less than 50,000 people there.


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    Fr_Dougal
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    No way. And Kilkenny isn’t a real city, it’s a medieval city.

    Drogheda should be razed to the ground.


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    Eleven Benevolent Elephants
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    Will granting it city status benefit it in any way?


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    Gregor Samsa
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    JasonStatham wrote: »
    Is it not already a city?

    Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford and Galway are the only official cities in Ireland (the Republic) with City Councils. Kilkenny has city status by Royal Charter, and is referred to as a city in the Local Government Reform Act 2014, and the Local Government Act 2001 allows it to be “described” as a city, but it not officially one and does not have a City Council. Cashel once had city status by Royal Charter too. People (locals) sometimes try to describe Sligo and Drogheda as a cities, but neither are.

    Should Drogheda be a city now? I suppose it depends on what benefits giving it a City Council would have. I’m not up to speed on what they are.


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    Some Yoke
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    No way. And Kilkenny isn’t a real city, it’s a medieval city.

    Drogheda should be razed to the ground.

    We can only hope one days the children of the nation shall be set free from the burden of Drogheda upon Eires shoulders


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    Zebra3
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    And it can be rebrand itself as the Lisburn of the South.


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    Signore Fancy Pants
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    It should be walled in and concreted over.

    The accent of those poor folk alone is justification of the above.


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    its_steve116
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    And it can be rebrand itself as the Lisburn of the South.

    The Lisburn of the South?


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    Some Yoke
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    its_steve116 wrote: »
    Largest town in the State; bigger than Dundalk, Kilkenny or Navan and catching up with Waterford population wise.

    Kilkennys got the looks and class though


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    ChikiChiki
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    The place should be levelled.


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    breezy1985
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    I don't know alot about the place so my question would be does it feel like a city or when you are living there does it feel like a typical Irish 1 street town just with bigger suburbs?

    Kilkenny for instance definitely feels like a county town and no more a city than Ennis, Thurles or Castlebar.


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    Sam Quentin
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    Is Dundalk not bigger and a more spacious Town centre.. it's years since I was up that direction


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    TuringBot47
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    I've a sister up in Drogheda, know it well.

    Apparently the IDA is encouraging companies to set up in Dundalk not Drogheda, despite it being much closer to Dublin and the airport.
    Dundalk control the Louth budget and there's some long fued between them and Drogheda.

    City status would give them more control of their budget.


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    Montage of Feck
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    No way. And Kilkenny isn’t a real city, it’s a medieval city.

    Drogheda should be razed to the ground.

    Didn't Cromwell already do just that?

    🙈🙉🙊



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    bobbyy gee
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    City or town
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_status_in_Ireland#:~:text=The%20requirement%20for%20a%20town,town%20and%20sometimes%20a%20city.


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    Zebra3
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    its_steve116 wrote: »
    The Lisburn of the South?

    Lisburn which is little more than a town outside Belfast was given city status a number of years ago.


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    breezy1985
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Lisburn which is little more than a town outside Belfast was given city status a number of years ago.

    In the UK Lizzie can wave her golden soup ladle or whatever it is that royalty do and make anywhere a city with no real criteria to fulfil. She done the same with Bangor or somewhere


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    [Deleted User]
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    All giving Drogheda city status would do is increase the already bizarre local bureaucracy. A complete waste of time and money, in my view.

    Getting the traffic in the town sorted would be a better ambition for the good folks looking for city status.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    No way. And Kilkenny isn’t a real city, it’s a medieval city.
    Used to be capital of Ireland

    No grá for the Confederation of Kilkenny ?


    Drogheda should be razed to the ground.
    No.

    Fill in the arches and turn the railway viaduct into a hydroelectric dam.


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    McGinniesta
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    Sprawling metropolis


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    cj maxx
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    its_steve116 wrote: »
    The Lisburn of the South?

    The queen of england proclaimed Lisburn to be a city , so to balance things out she also made Newry a “city”.
    It’s pushing it.
    Armagh is a “city “ also


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    dxhound2005
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    cj maxx wrote: »
    The queen of england proclaimed Lisburn to be a city , so to balance things out she also made Newry a “city”.
    It’s pushing it.
    Armagh is a “city “ also

    It wasn't a case of balancing things out. They both qualified under the same criteria, according to the BBC. The UK system does not need a big population to make a city. Plenty of places with small populations are cities.

    It was a tale of two new cities in Northern Ireland on Thursday.
    Lisburn in County Antrim and the border town of Newry in County Down were celebrating after being granted city status in a competition to mark the Queen's Golden Jubilee.

    The towns were judged on their notable characteristics, their historical and royal connections and their progressive attitude.


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    John Doe1
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    Yeah why not, in Norway which is comparable to us in terms of population have plenty of cities with 10,000 approx population:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_cities_in_Norway

    If a large town in Ireland is the main urban centre for a large enough area rather than a suburb or commuter town, you could have it as a city.

    You could have Letterkenny, Sligo, Ennis, Tralee, Athlone, Kilkenny, Wexford, Carlow, Drogheda, Dundalk as cities.

    It would likely help attract more business and prestige to the place with city status


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    cj maxx
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    Good enough point. If they’re big enough for a RTC , or whatever they’re called now, make them a city . As you say they’re already the main big regional towns


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    Littlehorny
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    Would Tallaght or Swords not be bigger than any of the big towns around the country?


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    Edgware
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    Well if Newry can be called a city since 2002 Drogheda must be in with a chance.
    Although the levelling of both would still be my choice


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    feargale
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »

    Drogheda should be razed to the ground.

    Again, Oliver?


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    cj maxx wrote: »
    Good enough point. If they’re big enough for a RTC , or whatever they’re called now, make them a city . As you say they’re already the main big regional towns

    Road Traffic Collision? Like I say, if they sorted the traffic out, that would be more useful

    Notions :D


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    BQQ
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    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    I've a sister up in Drogheda, know it well.

    Apparently the IDA is encouraging companies to set up in Dundalk not Drogheda, despite it being much closer to Dublin and the airport.
    Dundalk control the Louth budget and there's some long fued between them and Drogheda.

    City status would give them more control of their budget.

    This ^^

    A rare sensible post with genuine insight that will be lost in the flood of parochial "it's a sh*thole" style comments.


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