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Lloyd England exposed was involved in 9/11 false flag event

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    The "secret Nazi" narrative only exists in your head, nowhere else



    There's no details of it. What are the names of the guys who did this? how many were there? how much explosive was used? where was it planted?

    No one can answer the most elementary questions about it, because it doesn't have any details. It's just a fantasy people have created to explain a conspiracy they think might have happened but have no details of

    NIST had to invent a new collapse theory for a building of steel of this type (fact not disputed)

    Occam’s razor doesn’t apply here for some reason.! The simplest explanation for the total collapse is controlled demolition. It’s a known method to cripple the column support, here and cause a total collapse. The NIST method stinks and never occurred before, You’re not able to wrap your mind around this fact of history..

    It's similar like tactic used for JFK. They pass an unbelievable event off as a fact. Debunkers believe the one bullet found at Parkland caused numerous bone and tissue damage to two people in the presidential limo. It’s delusional view. When you read the medical evidence, this bullet that entered Kennedy back and throat magically somehow still came out the way it did, after hitting Connelly 5th rib bone and hitting the wrist bone in Connelly right hand.

    WTC7 is a magic collapse passed around as science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The Nal wrote: »
    So a conspiracy that involves hijacking 4 commercial jetliners, crashing them into skyscrapers and then doing a fly by on the Pentagon, landing somewhere else killing everyone on board while simultaneously shooting a missile into the Pentagon and detonating (somehow secret) pre planted explosives in 3 of the most secure and biggest buildings on earth....

    30 people. Comedy gold.

    You quoted what i said!!!
    30 or some people participated in ordering, preparing and planting demolitions in New York. The 9/11 hijackers arrived in the year 2000 so they had the plan for the 9/11 attack already mapped out then. Any outside group spying on a cell would have known what they were up to years in advance. Enough time for another level group to hijack the plan and carry out their own attack.

    Demolition operation is a side op that was carried out in secret.

    I don't think its a next level difficulty at all to plant explosive devices in three buildings, if you own or bought off the security ahead of time. There no camera footage left behind after the collapses, any trail is long gone to follow.

    Interesting stories of men in the tower drilling in rooms seven days before 9/11. The man has solid credentials. It the company he named here was there working a week before the attack, that suggests the men in the room were Israeli intelligence.. The moving company he named working at the Towers, is a front company for Mossad/ Israeli intelligence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I don't think its a next level difficulty at all to plant explosive devices in three buildings, if you own or bought off the security ahead of time.

    Yeah real easy to rig up the two biggest buildings in the world. 210 floors and 1 kilometer in height. lol.

    Do you know how many security guards worked in those buildings? :confused:

    More security guards were killed in the attacks on the Twin Towers than NYPD police officers. There was nearly 300 security guards killed in the attacks. Did they know what was happening (as they were paid off apparently) and still went to work that morning?

    And the other few hundred or so who worked in the buildings were all paid off and said nothing? NYC security, private security, contract security, external security, NYPD on patrol.

    And the receptionists, cleaners, shift workers. All of whom would've had to be paid off.

    19 years later and not one has come forward? And not one refused to be bought off.

    "Here, if we give you some money will you step aside and let us plant loads of explosives so we can take the buildings down and kill a few thousand people? By the way don't tell anyone"

    And they all agreed! Hundreds of them. Hahahaha


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,765 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    NIST had to invent a new collapse theory for a building of steel of this type (fact not disputed)

    Experts, proper experts, structural engineers, investigators, professionals, dozens and dozens of them examined it and found the buildings collapsed due to fire.

    Another group of experts examined it and found it collapsed due to fire.

    At no stage has any proper investigation into WTC 1 or 2 or 7 or the Pentagon found evidence of explosives or mini-nukes or laser beams or Holograms or anything else

    On top of that, at no point has anyone provided any credible evidence to support any of the conspiracy theories
    The simplest explanation for the total collapse is controlled demolition.

    A secret controlled silent demolition the world has never seen coordinated with plane strikes is not the simplest explanation. It's the most complex one.
    The NIST method stinks and never occurred before, You’re not able to wrap your mind around this fact of history..

    A secret silent controlled demolition of skyscrapers during a terrorist attackhas never happened before

    I've seen many posters attempt to explain this to you dozens of times. You inability to not understand this fallacy is not anyone's problem but your own.
    It's similar like tactic used for JFK.

    Here's a list of people you believe are responsible for 911

    Larry Silverstein
    His insurers
    Saudi Princes and officials
    Bush
    Rumsfeld
    Cheney
    NORAD
    CIA Mujahideen
    NIST investigators
    Mossad (possibly)
    US military (unspecified generals)
    Various unspecified businessmen
    Pakistani ISI
    Secret Nazi's
    Joe Biden
    and more..

    The list of people you believe killed JFK is also long and also includes "secret Nazi's"

    I'm not referring to you personally but these types of views are literally insane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Occam’s razor doesn’t apply here for some reason.! The simplest explanation for the total collapse is controlled demolition.
    No, occam's razor doesn't apply here as it requires two equal explanations.
    There is no conspiracy explanation for anything. You guys keep running away every time you're asked for one.

    Also, the simplest explanation will be "conspiracy cranks on the internet are wrong" not "there was a massive government conspiracy that used fake planes and experimental silent explosions to fake an obviously impossible collapse and attack all for no discernible reason."
    It's similar like tactic used for JFK. They pass an unbelievable event off as a fact. Debunkers believe the one bullet found at Parkland caused numerous bone and tissue damage to two people in the presidential limo. It’s delusional view. When you read the medical evidence, this bullet that entered Kennedy back and throat magically somehow still came out the way it did, after hitting Connelly 5th rib bone and hitting the wrist bone in Connelly right hand.

    WTC7 is a magic collapse passed around as science.
    Lol so desperate you're trying to deflect to JFK conspiracy theories now.

    Why not explain how your 9/11 conspiracy theories are just as valid as your holocaust denial? I bet other conspiracy theorists will love that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The Nal wrote: »
    Yeah real easy to rig up the two biggest buildings in the world. 210 floors and 1 kilometer in height. lol.

    Do you know how many security guards worked in those buildings? :confused:

    More security guards were killed in the attacks on the Twin Towers than NYPD police officers. There was nearly 300 security guards killed in the attacks. Did they know what was happening (as they were paid off apparently) and still went to work that morning?

    And the other few hundred or so who worked in the buildings were all paid off and said nothing? NYC security, private security, contract security, external security, NYPD on patrol.

    And the receptionists, cleaners, shift workers. All of whom would've had to be paid off.

    19 years later and not one has come forward? And not one refused to be bought off.

    "Here, if we give you some money will you step aside and let us plant loads of explosives so we can take the buildings down and kill a few thousand people? By the way don't tell anyone"

    And they all agreed! Hundreds of them. Hahahaha

    300 security, private and contract guards? Is the towers a maximum security prison facility?! Debunkers will of course add things to the scenario to represent it as impossible to the person reading!
    Provide a source for the security information?

    9/11 attacks happened early in the morning first attack before 9am and its the main reason fewer people got killed inside the Towers. The security staff would only be swapping out from the night shift to morning day shift, after 8am.
    Still provide a fact, a source to show 300 security personnel watched both towers for suspicious people.

    The buildings are open 24 hours, seven days a weeks, and we don’t know when, the demolition crew showed up to place the devices. Still need less security needed at the weekends and at night. You only have more security for daytime to watch people who are coming and going during rush hours, places of business (daytime) and sightseeing (daytime)

    You constructed a fake story here to make the demolition sound impossible.

    The guy who was given a contract to move mainstream network computers to storage before the planned power shutdown on the weekend before 9/11 said the men in "blue jumpsuits" were inside a wide, large empty room. Make sense since many rooms inside the towers were left vacant and empty of material human things. It's a mistaken assumption among debunker every room had tenants and floors had a business.

    He caught them on the far side of the room, drilling into the wall where the perimeter steel walls are located. The Witness is reliable.

    Debunkers have not got a clue how demolitions of buildings work either. Don’t place the demolitions in 110 stories of a tower, Demolitions are only distributed in a number of floors to cripple the steel columns on that floor, gravity does must of the work when a demolition occurs. They'll be there months and months if they had to remove walls on every floor.

    Fact there a new incendiary explosive found in the dust, the nanothermite, the conspirators had access to military grade materials that only the most advanced labs in the world experiment with and have today, even in 2020.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The security staff would only be swapping out from the night shift to morning day shift, after 8am.

    Oh I didn't know you had intimate knowledge of the WTC security roster.

    Please provide evidence for this. Staff rotas, documents, video footage and photos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The Nal wrote: »
    Oh I didn't know you had intimate knowledge of the WTC security roster.

    Please provide evidence for this. Staff rotas, documents, video footage and photos.

    Its your claim 300 staff with security training worked there. Why should i have to support your claim here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Its your claim 300 staff with security training worked there. Why should i have to support your claim here?

    Nope. It's my claim that nearly 300 security died that day. There were hundreds more working there. Across 150 floors in all 3 buildings. From the garage 4 stories down to the door to the roof 100 stories up.

    This is common knowledge and can be proved with a quick google.

    Conspiraloons of course ignore this.

    So tell us who was bribed please? How many people? And when? And which parts of each building? And please show the correlation between the areas where the security guards who were bribed and the locations where the explosives were. Which companies offices were on those floors? What were the layouts of the floors? What hours did they work? How many trips did the plotters need to make to each building? How did they transport the explosives?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, occam's razor doesn't apply here as it requires two equal explanations.
    There is no conspiracy explanation for anything. You guys keep running away every time you're asked for one.

    Also, the simplest explanation will be "conspiracy cranks on the internet are wrong" not "there was a massive government conspiracy that used fake planes and experimental silent explosions to fake an obviously impossible collapse and attack all for no discernible reason."


    Lol so desperate you're trying to deflect to JFK conspiracy theories now.

    Why not explain how your 9/11 conspiracy theories are just as valid as your holocaust denial? I bet other conspiracy theorists will love that.

    These so-called experts are signing up to a new collapse scenario never seen in the history of steel framed building collapses. They are agreeing because the next step is too dark for them. They don’t want to believe men would do this and murder innocent people on 9/11. They prefer that reality of make believe fire brought down three steel framed buildings on 9/11.

    Debunkers could not handle people saying there was a unidentified craft in the sky that may belong to non-humans. Since they had support from the US government at that time, they attacked believers with the same language used today when discussing events like 9/11 and JFK.

    Debunkers got a shock to the system in 2017 when the US navy and Pentagon admitted their pilots are interacting with vehicles not in the US inventory. Debunkers are now claiming to know more about air defence than the military!! You know who that debunker is and his bird scenario for UFOs;)

    You have confidence debunkers are right, when in reality 99 percent of time in history they are wrong. But that side you like the seat :cool:

    Quoted wrong person was for Dohnjoe this!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The Nal wrote: »
    Nope. It's my claim that nearly 300 security died that day. There were hundreds more working there. Across 150 floors in all 3 buildings. From the garage 4 stories down to the door to the roof 100 stories up.

    This is common knowledge and can be proved with a quick google.

    Conspiraloons of course ignore this.

    A paper can print information and it be false.

    List the 300 names and who paid them and what business they work for inside the towers.
    We go from there to verify your claim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »



    A secret controlled silent demolition the world has never seen coordinated with plane strikes is not the simplest explanation. It's the most complex one.



    A secret silent controlled demolition of skyscrapers during a terrorist attackhas never happened before

    .

    I'm not referring to you personally but these types of views are literally insane.

    Scale of things people from outside rigging three buildings for demolition is possible and doable.
    You have chosen the other choice of magic. A new theory was invented here to explain the collapse of building seven and you signed on. AE911 truth and others like me on the web think you guys are nuts!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    These so-called experts are signing up to a new collapse scenario never seen in the history of steel framed building collapses. They are agreeing because the next step is too dark for them. They don’t want to believe men would do this and murder innocent people on 9/11. They prefer that reality of make believe fire brought down three steel framed buildings on 9/11.

    Debunkers could not handle people saying there was a unidentified craft in the sky that may belong to non-humans. Since they had support from the US government at that time, they attacked believers with the same language used today when discussing events like 9/11 and JFK.

    Debunkers got a shock to the system in 2017 when the US navy and Pentagon admitted their pilots are interacting with vehicles not in the US inventory. Debunkers are now claiming to know more about air defence than the military!! You know who that debunker is and his bird scenario for UFOs;)

    You have confidence debunkers are right, when in reality 99 percent of time in history they are wrong. But that side you like the seat :cool:

    Quoted wrong person was for Dohnjoe this!

    The To the stars advert for their new shows didn’t shock anyone. And debunkers have the same level of knowledge of alien craft as the UFO community (whose patience is rivaling that of rapturists), ie. none


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    These so-called experts are signing up to a new collapse scenario never seen in the history of steel framed building collapses. They are agreeing because the next step is too dark for them. They don’t want to believe men would do this and murder innocent people on 9/11. They prefer that reality of make believe fire brought down three steel framed buildings on 9/11.

    Debunkers could not handle people saying there was a unidentified craft in the sky that may belong to non-humans. Since they had support from the US government at that time, they attacked believers with the same language used today when discussing events like 9/11 and JFK.

    Debunkers got a shock to the system in 2017 when the US navy and Pentagon admitted their pilots are interacting with vehicles not in the US inventory. Debunkers are now claiming to know more about air defence than the military!! You know who that debunker is and his bird scenario for UFOs;)

    You have confidence debunkers are right, when in reality 99 percent of time in history they are wrong. But that side you like the seat :cool:

    Quoted wrong person was for Dohnjoe this!

    And now, you're trying to deflect to UFO nonsense to avoid the giant pile of points you're running away from.

    Also, thought I was on ignore?
    Guess that was a big old lie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Ruby gray


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Personal speculation and rationalisations are not evidence of anything.

    If I rationalise that e.g. a team of around 20 guys could have planted explosives in some building and then blown it up, cool but that isn't evidence

    That is a rationalisation. In my imagination. In my head.

    I can describe how I think they did it, where it was planted, how much was used, what was used, how they got in, how they got out, how they dodged the cameras, how they covered it up, who told them to do it, etc, etc

    It doesn't mean anything, it's not evidence of anything but my own imagination. It doesn't matter how "plausible" it sounds, it doesn't matter how detailed it sounds, it is completely worthless and meaningless with proper evidence

    Hilarious.

    You can say this when answering someone else, but not accept it from me when I say exactly the same thing about responding to your vacuous taunts based on your own personal belief bias.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Ruby gray


    A paper can print information and it be false.

    List the 300 names and who paid them and what business they work for inside the towers.
    We go from there to verify your claim.

    I have been trying to get this thread back on the rails, but it is so difficult when everyone keeps diving off topic and turns it into an unwieldy free-for-all!

    Can we not just stick to the TOPIC here please!

    The Towers are a massive topic in their own right and only clog up this thread with yet more endless speculation.

    The fact is that, uniquely at the Pentagon, and only related to Lloyde England, do we have actual evidence of the crime being committed by identifiable individuals.

    Please start another thread for all discussions extraneous to the TOPIC here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ruby gray wrote: »
    The fact is that, uniquely at the Pentagon, and only related to Lloyde England, do we have actual evidence of the crime being committed by identifiable individuals.
    !
    What crime though? You don't seem to be able to explain what happened in the conspiracy theory version of events.
    And what identifiable individuals? Maybe you could at least give a ball park figure. Cheerful claims that it was all done by less than 20 people. Do you agree with him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ruby gray wrote: »
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    Sorry this isn't much of a response to any of the points or questions put to you.

    Could you try responding to them with your own work rather than just copy pasting stuff from a conspiracy website?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    King Mob wrote: »
    Sorry this isn't much of a response to any of the points or questions put to you.

    Could you try responding to them with your own work rather than just copy pasting stuff from a conspiracy website?

    Just pick the witnesses that may have seen something different, easy. Defo proves a conspiracy.

    Ignore all of these people though

    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html#p3

    Steve Riskus: "I was close enough (about 100 feet or so) that I could see the "American Airlines" logo on the tail as it headed towards the building"


    AE911 truth and others like me on the web think you guys are nuts!

    Thakfully, a tiny amount of people. Conspiracy "theorists" with no theories.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    The Nal wrote: »
    Just pick the witnesses that may have seen something different, easy. Defo proves a conspiracy.
    Especially since the witness he posted and that one say they saw markings for two different airlines.
    Ruby's witness says it was "American Airways", an airline that doesn't exist.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭mikekerry


    Ruby gray wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    You can say this when answering someone else, but not accept it from me when I say exactly the same thing about responding to your vacuous taunts based on your own personal belief bias.

    You are trying to have dialog with a couple of inexorable anti conspiracy posters who patrol this site 24/7 you are wasting your time
    trying to have any sort of proper discussion it doesn't matter what case you put forward .


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ruby gray wrote: »
    DARRELL STAFFORD
    It looked like it was coming right at us ...
    It was just like it barely made it over the (Navy Annex) roof ...
    It started to bank to the right ...
    It banked and it was kinda over the cemetery and probably crossed over Columbia Pike more on this side then.
    Yup again, just posting spam from a conspiracy website.

    And more vague, chopped up and cherry picked testimony for a conspiracy that doesn't make any sense and you can't actually explain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Ruby gray


    King Mob wrote: »
    Sorry this isn't much of a response to any of the points or questions put to you.

    Could you try responding to them with your own work rather than just copy pasting stuff from a conspiracy website?

    I am not here to dance to your tune.
    I am doing this my way with or without heckling.

    Most of what I write is 100% my own words, illustrated with images (many of which have never been acknowledged before), and supported wherever possible by first-person quotes from the eyewitnesses themselves, rather than 3rd-hand accounts by sensationalist journalists.

    This is so much more useful than anything I have seen from you.

    Bet you didn't know that OMAR CAMPO, frequently cited as an "impact eyewitness", was another ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY employee?

    Who did NOT see an impact.

    Apparently nobody thought to ask him whether he saw the plane fly over the roof, but as its left wing must have been higher than the trees on top of the cemetery, the plane was already high enough to soar over the 75 foot high roof, which was just 165 metres to the east.

    6034073
    As he was mowing the grass at the cemetery when the plane went over his head, this makes him yet another NORTHSIDE EYEWITNESS.

    He is just another one of the scores of eyewitnesses who prove that the plane never flew anywhere near the bridge or those 5 lightpoles.

    Campo's confirmed location also corroborates the true testimony of Lloyde England who stated that he was driving beside the cemetery retaining wall, north of the Columbia Pike exit road overhead sign, when the plane flew very close overhead, and a 12 foot x 4 inch pole smashed from a height through his windshield.

    From that position, there is no way that the plane could have propelled any of those lightpoles through Lloyde's cab, nor could it have been that tiny blur seen on the infamous Gatecam video, and it could not have made the hole in the Pentagon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    mikekerry wrote: »
    You are trying to have dialog with a couple of inexorable anti conspiracy posters who patrol this site 24/7 you are wasting your time
    trying to have any sort of proper discussion it doesn't matter what case you put forward .
    Again, we've outlined many points. All of which have been ignored and run away from.

    We've asked multiple times for conspiracy theorists to outline and explain their theory.
    This has been ignored many times.

    We've explained all this witness testimony over and over again. It's always been ignored.

    You guys aren't actually looking for dialogue.
    All this whinging rings false.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Ruby gray


    mikekerry wrote: »
    You are trying to have dialog with a couple of inexorable anti conspiracy posters who patrol this site 24/7 you are wasting your time
    trying to have any sort of proper discussion it doesn't matter what case you put forward .

    Thanks for the heads-up!
    No worries, I do recognise the syndrome they are suffering from.

    I am not trying have a discussion with them, which would of course be pointless.

    I am not doing this for their benefit, but for anyone else who may be genuinely interested in hearing the latest developments on this topic, especially as we are almost at the 19th anniversary.

    In fact, there are many new discoveries to be shared.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,536 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, we've outlined many points. All of which have been ignored and run away from.

    We've asked multiple times for conspiracy theorists to outline and explain their theory.
    This has been ignored many times.

    We've explained all this witness testimony over and over again. It's always been ignored.

    You guys aren't actually looking for dialogue.
    All this whinging rings false.

    Conspiracy theorists will only ever have theories not the actual information your looking for as in evidence. If they had did evidence they wouldn’t be posting it on boards. You will always win the argument


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ruby gray wrote: »
    I am not here to dance to your tune.
    I am doing this my way with or without heckling.
    No, you're ignoring points you can't address and hiding behind spam from conspiracy websites.

    But ok, since we all agree you can't elaborate and detail the conspiracy and you can't explain why the government lied about the flight path of the plane, lets break down one of you eyewitnesses:
    OMAR CAMPO
    Who did NOT see an impact.
    So did he say directly that the plane didn't impact? If so, provide that quote please.
    Apparently nobody thought to ask him whether he saw the plane fly over the roof,
    That's a bizarre claim. Why wouldn't they ask that if that's what they believe happened? Why wouldn't he mention it if it did happen?

    The fact here i think is that he didn't say that the plane flew over.
    And according to your logic with the impact, if he didn't say he saw it, that means it didn't happen, right?
    So that's an eyewitness that proves the plane didn't fly over and away from the pentagon.
    As he was mowing the grass at the cemetery when the plane went over his head, this makes him yet another NORTHSIDE EYEWITNESS.

    Campo's confirmed location
    Where in the cemetery? Arlington Cemetery is huge.
    Who confirmed his location and how?
    Is it just him saying that he was there?

    Also, as I pointed out, he claimed it was an "America Airways" plane. How is this possible when no such airline exists?

    Now, I suspect because you will have difficulty answering these questions you will attempt to try and deflect to another witness rather than analyse this one (which you decided to highlight.)
    But that will just lead to the same issues I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Conspiracy theorists will only ever have theories
    Well that's the thing, here they are arguing the exact opposite.
    Ruby has said in clear terms that he has all the evidence and he doesn't need to supply a theory.

    No conspiracy theorist has been able to elaborate on their theory and explain what it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Ruby gray


    The Nal wrote: »
    Just pick the witnesses that may have seen something different, easy. Defo proves a conspiracy.

    Ignore all of these people though

    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html#p3

    Steve Riskus: "I was close enough (about 100 feet or so) that I could see the "American Airlines" logo on the tail as it headed towards the building"

    Apparently it is YOU doing all the ignoring of evidence here.

    If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I have already dealt with the testimony and the location of STEVE RISKUS.

    This evidence proves he was a NORTHSIDE WITNESS, who saw the plane fly across Route 27 at the level of the Columbia Pike exit road, as he confirmed on several overhead images on which he drew in his own location and the flightpath he witnessed.

    This means that STEVE RISKUS absolutely demolishes your official flightpath, because a plane flying there, CANNOT hit the Pentagon at that hole hundreds of feet further south.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭mikekerry


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Conspiracy theorists will only ever have theories not the actual information your looking for as in evidence. If they had did evidence they wouldn’t be posting it on boards. You will always win the argument

    The clue is in the forum name - conspiracy theories - it's a forum for people to put forward - theories ( whether they agree or not agree with the theory is a different point).


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