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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I get a lot of my news from YouTube.

    I watch:

    Liberal Hivemind
    Steven Crowder
    Ben Shapiro
    Fleccas Talks
    Barely Informed with Elad
    Slightly Offens*ve
    The Hodgetwins
    Liberty Hangout

    Man GTF
    They're about as Independent as Donalds Toupe.

    The Hodgetwins? Would that be their 'The Conservative Twins' Channel.

    Don't know how long you'll have been following them but they cottoned on to the market potential about 18 months ago and shifted their act to suit. Independent? :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I get a lot of my news from YouTube.

    I watch:

    Liberal Hivemind
    Steven Crowder
    Ben Shapiro
    Fleccas Talks
    Barely Informed with Elad
    Slightly Offens*ve
    The Hodgetwins
    Liberty Hangout
    Tim Pool
    Mark Dice

    It all makes sense now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Man GTF
    They're about as Independent as Donalds Toupe.

    The Hodgetwins? Would that be their 'The Conservative Twins' Channel.

    Don't know how long you'll have been following them but they cottoned on to the market potential about 18 months ago and shifted their act to suit. Independent? :D:D:D:D

    Their independent because they aren't controlled by anyone and they report on news and current affairs in an unbiased manner. There is no outside influence on their reporting and there is no hidden agenda it's all facts and no bullshiit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Their independent because they aren't controlled by anyone and they report on news and current affairs in an unbiased manner. There is no outside influence on their reporting and there is no hidden agenda it's all facts and no bullshiit.
    Unbiased?
    Take one example, ben shapiro (the others are actually worse) you are honestly saying he reports with no agenda and it's all facts?
    He is literally one of the founders of dailywire...
    who are infamous for sharing stories that are unverified with a notoriously right wing angle. They are also well known for climate change denial stories and for using fake pages to boost their engagement.

    They are literally the opposite of what you claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    It all makes sense now.
    So many grifters on that list....they would literally sell their soul for a dollar ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    gmisk wrote: »
    Unbiased?
    Take one example, ben shapiro (the others are actually worse) you are honestly saying he reports with no agenda and it's all facts?
    He is literally one of the founders of dailywire...
    who are infamous for sharing stories that are unverified with a notoriously right wing angle. They are also well known for climate change denial stories and for using fake pages to boost their engagement.

    They are literally the opposite of what you claim.

    Yeah he has no agenda it's all facts no lies or bullshiit.

    The climate has always been changing so I don't believe in climate change.

    I've seen nothing that would make me doubt him or the daily wire as a reputable news source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Their independent because they aren't controlled by anyone and they report on news and current affairs in an unbiased manner. There is no outside influence on their reporting and there is no hidden agenda it's all facts and no bullshiit.

    You patently don't know the mean of the word unbiased.

    Surprised Diamond and Silk aren't on your list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Their independent because they aren't controlled by anyone and they report on news and current affairs in an unbiased manner. There is no outside influence on their reporting and there is no hidden agenda it's all facts and no bullshiit.

    If you said that you prefer right leaning media that push conservative narratives that would be one thing but trying to say those sources are unbiased and not pushing hidden agendas is beyond laughable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I get a lot of my news from YouTube.

    I watch:

    Liberal Hivemind
    Steven Crowder
    Ben Shapiro
    Fleccas Talks
    Barely Informed with Elad
    Slightly Offens*ve
    The Hodgetwins
    Liberty Hangout
    Tim Pool
    Mark Dice

    This is what you find in your playlist when you watch one Joe Rogan video on youtube and fall asleep with autoplay on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    I suppose we'll just have to wait and see if anyone actually does what he has suggested they do and if they will be tried and convicted of a crime.

    The law and order president asks people to break the law. I'm out. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Yeah has no agenda it's all facts no lies or bullshiit.

    The climate has always been changing so I don't believe in climate change.

    I've seen nothing that would make me doubt him or the daily wire as a reputable news source.
    As I said already....that site is notorious for publishing unverified stories...literally....not facts....
    I mean ben shapiro literally lies about his own height.

    Ok so you don't believe in climate change...the facts, and they are facts seem to point to you being incredibly wrong.
    I would recommend a lot of sites but the NASA one is very factual.
    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    LOP, may I suggest that you expand your channels to include some of those on the 'other' side.

    Not so much because you have to belive everything they say, but it gives a different POV and most of the time the truth is somewhere between the two.

    Simply listening to one 'side' will only back up your bias. Of course they are going to say Biden is terrible, they want Trump to win. Of course it is the fault of the left, they are on the right and to admit that the right has any responsibility would mean holding themselves to account.

    Try out some 'left' leaning channels for a while. See how you feel after a couple of days comparing the response to certain stories. You should find that neither side is giving a fully unbiased view, but there are certainly levels within that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    More nonsense from you. Nobody is considered a criminal unless they have been convicted of a crime and all this mental gymnastics absurdity won't change that. I bet your philosophy would suddenly much different if it were Joe Biden that hadn't been convicted of a crime but yet was being called a criminal. The man is pretty damn close to being indicted in Ukraine; okay if we call him a criminal here? I bet you don't think so.

    The definition of Criminal is A person who has committed a crime.

    Not "Convicted of a crime" but "Committed a Crime"

    So yes , Donald Trump is a Criminal as the law has decided that he committed a crime , they just haven't convicted him yet , but they will sometime shortly after January 20th.

    And - In whose universe in Biden "pretty damn close to being indicted in Ukraine"?

    Even Bill " The Attorney General that doesn't know if it's illegal to vote twice" Barr has said that no charges will be brought against Biden.

    That one is going to need backing up there Pete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I get a lot of my news from YouTube.

    I watch:

    Liberal Hivemind
    Steven Crowder
    Ben Shapiro
    Fleccas Talks
    Barely Informed with Elad
    Slightly Offens*ve
    The Hodgetwins
    Liberty Hangout
    Tim Pool
    Mark Dice

    The very definition of cognitive bias


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Yeah he has no agenda it's all facts no lies or bullshiit.

    The climate has always been changing so I don't believe in climate change.

    I've seen nothing that would make me doubt him or the daily wire as a reputable news source.
    The dailywire.... owned by Forward Publishing LLC which is owned and managed by the billionaire Wilks Brothers who made their money through the fossil fuel industry with their company Frac Tech. The Wilks brothers who are also a part of the extreme Christian right who interpret the bible literally....

    So you can't see why there would for example be any bias on dailywire when it comes to stories about climate change?....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    LOP, may I suggest that you expand your channels to include some of those on the 'other' side.

    If by other side, you mean left-wing disinformation grifters instead of right-wing disinformation grifters, I'm not sure that it's such a good idea. That would just leave someone even more misinformed. Although, there is a strong overlap between both left and right wing disinformation when it comes to topics like Syria and Russia for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    gmisk wrote: »
    The dailywire.... owned by Forward Publishing LLC which is owned and managed by the billionaire Wilks Brothers who made their money through the fossil fuel industry with their company Frac Tech. The Wilks brothers who are also a part of the extreme Christian right who interpret the bible literally....

    So you can't see why there would for example be any bias on dailywire when it comes to stories about climate change?....

    Yeah turns out their not unbiased they say as much on their website:

    "The Daily Wire does not claim to be without bias. We’re opinionated, we’re noisy, and we’re having a good time."

    https://www.dailywire.com/about

    As long as 90% is unbiased news I'm happy since we all have a little bit of inherent bias.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I see the media are reporting that Trump is encouraging voter fraud .... a felony.

    Oh no wait, he's proving a point how unreliable the mail in voting system is ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Yeah turns out their not unbiased they say as much on their website:

    "The Daily Wire does not claim to be without bias. We’re opinionated, we’re noisy, and we’re having a good time."

    https://www.dailywire.com/about

    As long as 90% is unbiased news I'm happy since we all have a little bit of inherent bias.
    Where'd you get that 90% from?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I see the media are reporting that Trump is encouraging voter fraud .... a felony.

    Oh no wait, he's proving a point how unreliable the mail in voting system is ...

    Pity he couldn't prove that point in a court of law when his lawyers were asked to though.


    So what's his plan? - Encourage his supporters to commit voter fraud and when they do and they get caught he'll shout "See!!! I told you there was voter fraud!!!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I see the media are reporting that Trump is encouraging voter fraud .... a felony.

    Oh no wait, he's proving a point how unreliable the mail in voting system is ...

    I know this is hard to believe but the President of the United States actually did encourage voter fraud.....crazy right?

    You do know that his legal team were asked to produce evidence of widespread mail in voting fraud in a court case in Pennsylvania as they claimed and couldn't produce ANY evidence. None.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Where'd you get that 90% from?

    Myself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Myself?

    So you don't know definitively that it's 90%, do you not realise how susceptible you are to being coerced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I see the media are reporting that Trump is encouraging voter fraud .... a felony.

    Oh no wait, he's proving a point how unreliable the mail in voting system is ...

    And offering up absolutely nothing to fix it, if it even is broken.

    So basically, he has thrown up an idea, as if it was actually true, but he is actually in a position to have got all the required evidence from each state.

    But as we have seen, it appears that Trump supporters don't actually expect Trump to actually solve any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    duploelabs wrote: »
    So you don't know definitively that it's 90%, do you not realise how susceptible you are to being coerced?

    Of course it's a possibility but I believe that they are a trustworthy news source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Of course it's a possibility but I believe that they are a trustworthy news source.

    How do you distinguish between the 90% that you say you trust as unbiased and the 10% of stories pushing a certain agenda?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    I get a lot of my news from YouTube.

    I watch:

    Liberal Hivemind
    Steven Crowder
    Ben Shapiro
    Fleccas Talks
    Barely Informed with Elad
    Slightly Offens*ve
    The Hodgetwins
    Liberty Hangout
    Tim Pool
    Mark Dice
    No wonder you swallow that "land of the free, home of the brave" bullsh!t if this is the sort of stuff you're watching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    How do you distinguish between the 90% that you say you trust as unbiased and the 10% of stories pushing a certain agenda?

    See what other news sources are saying in relation to the event/story being reported and decide whether a bias may or may not exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    No wonder you swallow that "land of the free, home of the brave" bullsh!t if this is the sort of stuff you're watching

    I find the content that they produce very informative and entertaining.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    See what other news sources are saying in relation to the event/story being reported and decide whether a bias may or may not exist.

    You already know a bias exists, you happen to have made up a figure of 10%.

    But what 10%? And which stories?

    And does that include the omission of stories?


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