BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

Seicento had similar rating to BMW series 3 of that vintage.

Iirc Renault was leading in the safety at that time, Volvo probably, too.

The rest was mostly bad. Or really bad.

Most bangeromics posted here will be more modern, but you still can't vouch for the safety system to be working correctly.

Many people resetting airbag light etc. And even if there is no fault they are recommended to be checked every 10 years. I doubt there was a single check done on this item on any car.

Seen few accidents where airbags didn't deploy at all on some shows.

Best advice is not to crash into things

No matter how safe the car is.

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/01-fiat-seciento/25823108



NCT all the way til August 2021, tax til November, €350

Hard to go wrong at that money.

Badly stuck for a cheap runabout while work being done on my car.
The no garuentee thing has me worried..
Would it be worth the risk duke? Cheers

wonski wrote: »

Seicento had similar rating to BMW series 3 of that vintage.

Iirc Renault was leading in the safety at that time, Volvo probably, too.

The rest was mostly bad. Or really bad.

Most bangeromics posted here will be more modern, but you still can't vouch for the safety system to be working correctly.

Many people resetting airbag light etc. And even if there is no fault they are recommended to be checked every 10 years. I doubt there was a single check done on this item on any car.

Seen few accidents where airbags didn't deploy at all on some shows.

Best advice is not to crash into things

No matter how safe the car is.

The Laguna II was the first car to get a 5 star EuroNCAP rating. Renault focussed on safety as their USP at the time trying to take the mantle from Volvo.

Sam Russell wrote: »

In the crash video, the airbag was useless. The dummy was thrown past it and it offered no protection for the driver.

The passenger had no airbag, but then, the crash was on the other side so it did not matter so much.

I have decided these old cars are death traps in a crash - particularly if rust had weakened their structure.

Older cars are indeed deathtraps.

It's something I'm very conscious about as I delve into a resto on a couple I have over the next while.

I'm seriously considering some safety augmentation when the body is stripped down bare. But what can or will be done I don't know.
I've never seen much online about such things.

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Older cars are indeed deathtraps.

It's something I'm very conscious about as I delve into a resto on a couple I have over the next while.

I'm seriously considering some safety augmentation when the body is stripped down bare. But what can or will be done I don't know.
I've never seen much online about such things.

Cars crashing into the walls are generally deathtraps.

If you overthink it you are in a metal cage doing 120 km/h on a motorway, or you are 1m away from having a head on collision on a regional road every minute while driving to work with combined speed of 160km/h.

Some drivers can have a heart attack or being drunk as ****.

Let's enjoy the bangeromics for what they are and not what they become when hitting a stationary wall at speed, can we?

Just a thought

wonski wrote: »

If you buy it it's yours. So no longer other car. If they let you switch the policy to it that's fine.

Check before you buy is what I meant. You can temporarily switch to another car normally, but some insurance companies like to complicate things.

Would be in a housemates name... Just a car to get to work a to b, 10km total. I was cycling, but I twisted my ankle yesterday 😂

wonski wrote: »

Just switch the policy from the car being fixed to the one you buy rather than trying silly tricks.

Leave the housemate alone, last thing he needs is being registered owner of a car he has nothing to do with;)

How is it a silly trick if it is not against the law, and stop assuming my housemate would have a problem with it... He absolutely doesn't .. Reason why I don't want to switch is my insurance is up next week, and its a performance car, I fear if I switch back it will jump considerably more than the quote I received.
There's always a few

I am just telling you what you don't want to hear and you are telling me what you want to hear.

Do as you want.

Bear in mind some policies specifically exclude cars registered at the same address etc.

Perfectly legal.

It's only 10km or so so drive away and don't ask for advice when one is given.

I just mentioned insurance and you go defensive so you know what you are up to.

Ask the dealer if they throw in few quids for insurance on top of warranty on that car

wonski wrote: »

Cars crashing into the walls are generally deathtraps.

If you overthink it you are in a metal cage doing 120 km/h on a motorway, or you are 1m away from having a head on collision on a regional road every minute while driving to work with combined speed of 160km/h.

Some drivers can have a heart attack or being drunk as ****.

Let's enjoy the bangeromics for what they are and not what they become when hitting a stationary wall at speed, can we?

Just a thought

Eh, what?

Thanks for your thoughts.

I'm assuming you didn't read what I wrote in the spirit in which it was written nor the post that I quoted.

There's a reason I follow this thread... Jesus.

TychoCaine wrote: »

My policies have always required that the "borrowed" car have an active insurance policy of it's own, which closes off this loophole.

Almost all of them do. I know mine does and all of them going back to 2005 have done.

wonski wrote: »

I was politely trying to get one of my favourite threads back on track and leaving the ncap alone, and failed miserably by getting involved in Seicento insurance crap later on.

Apologies as it wasn't aimed at you at all

Fair enough. I withdraw my snark.

TBF, this goes off-topic only once every couple of months. It can be illuminating sometimes as you should well know.

Anyway... back to the bangers...

monster1 wrote: »

Not getting defensive at all, it gets annoying when people chime in about legalities when those questions were not even asked.
And I apologise if I come off defensive. Any links to a similar cheap car would be appriciated.
On another note, just a drive in an mx5 for the first time... In love! Never thought I'd like them.

Check out the CHEAPO ECO MANIACS thread here as there are some sub €500 cars popped in fairly regularly

wonski wrote: »

At the end we will all be friends

Let's just leave it where it was.

If you need a car for a week only or so I would look at renting one rather than going through all the hassle of buying/selling etc personally.

You said your car is being repaired now, it isn't out for months, just few days?

Well it's going away for a bit for a forge build and a few other things. So a car for a couple of months is needed. Commute not far, but will visit family 80km once a week.

monster1 wrote: »

Badly stuck for a cheap runabout while work being done on my car.
The no garuentee thing has me worried..
Would it be worth the risk duke? Cheers

Wouldn't be too worried about that line, the seller is only covering his back. There are some headers out there who'd come back screaming in a years time if it failed its next NCT :pac:

See selectamatic's advice above, check for oil in coolant or vice versa, and have a quick look in the boot for rust around where the floor meets the inside of the wheel arches. Other than that there is very little that can go wrong really.

If it starts, drives, steers and stops okay it is worth a punt, and a grand car if it is just to get you to work and back. A 97-99 era Corolla would be a very good bet too, they can be bought very cheap now with NCT. But that Fiat is about as frugal as you'll get, only 50 quid for three months tax, they run on the smell of fuel etc. Think of it as one up from a bus pass.

And just try not to have a crash in it!