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Spring lamb prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Just got into sheep on a very small scale myself this year - 2 ewes with triplets and 2 pet lambs. Triplets were born in early march. Reckon they're 40 plus kg at the moment but hard to judge. Should I sell the now or hold off till heavier? Going killing 2, maybe 3.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Should I sell the now or hold off till heavier?

    That's the eternal question!

    Where will you sell them: direct to butcher or factory? Or indirectly via the mart?

    Whichever way they leave the yard, 40-43kg is good for the factory but butchers prefer them to be 45-50kg.

    This year has been good for price so far. Usually the price drops slowly from the peak just after Easter. And so a lamb that's 40kg today could be roughly the same price when he's 45kg in 2 month's time. But 2020 has been a strange one and price is holding, and even rising slightly over the past few weeks.

    Having said all that, the price difference will not be huge either way unless you have dozens of them to sell. You can't lose too much, but you can't win too much either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Heavy Lambs €113 to €119 or €58 to €66 over €/kg
    Factory Lambs €100 to €113 or €54 to €62 over €/kg
    Store Lambs over 40kgs €87 to €100 or €44 to €54 over €/kg
    Store Lambs over 30 kgs €78 to €93 or €40 to €50 over €/kg
    Store Lambs over 35 kgs €65 to €80 or €35 to €48 over €/kg
    Fat Ewes €100 to €133 per head
    Feeding Ewes €66 to €100 per head
    Suffolk Hogget Ewes €175 to €220 per head

    Yday in blessington


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Was watching Enniscorthy mart this morning online. Factory weight lambs were a flying trade. It was quite obvious the local factory was buying strong. The bigger the bunch, the more they paid. From memory, a group of 25 @45kg made €115.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Great money. It might be handier do B and B than buy stores.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Great money. It might be handier do B and B than buy stores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    some lads will dip their toe in with sheep, but very few will last. one or two hairy days lambing will see them run and vow never to have them around again. you need to have a really strict management regime in place for sheep and store lambs letting them off the trailer and shutting the gate and leaving them to it for a few months dosent work, these lads will be the same ones cursing they ever got into them come a wet and windy february evening.

    sure sheep industry and sheep farming was always seen as poor mans farming enterprise, just look at the coverage it gets even in comparision to beef. dairy dominates everything and beef and tillage close behind, sheep are seen as an add on in farms. very few set themselves up to be sheep first and beef second. the sheep here are now main enterprise and get most focus and labour, you couldnt put in the labour hours with beef it doesent pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Was rummaging through stuff yesterday and found a factory receipt from this time ten years ago....lambs were 4:40 at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Was rummaging through stuff yesterday and found a factory receipt from this time ten years ago....lambs were 4:40 at the time.

    I remember before the change over to Euros, there was a headline that we had seem the last of the £50 lambs. And that was the top prices at the time, not the bottom. So 63 euro was looking at the very top end of the market at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭Westernrock


    I remember before the change over to Euros, there was a headline that we had seem the last of the £50 lambs. And that was the top prices at the time, not the bottom. So 63 euro was looking at the very top end of the market at the time.

    I remember finished lambs making £40 Sterling and I’m not that old!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I remember when lamb prices collapsed in the early 90s. We brought all sheep to the mart that time. Factory lambs made 32 punts and butchers made 40 if you were lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Cran


    kk.man wrote: »
    I remember when lamb prices collapsed in the early 90s. We brought all sheep to the mart that time. Factory lambs made 32 punts and butchers made 40 if you were lucky.

    78p a pound bottomed out at I remember, happened for a couple of years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Cran wrote: »
    78p a pound bottomed out at I remember, happened for a couple of years

    Roughly €2.18/kg in today's terms not allowing anything for inflation.

    Allowing for inflation of 60% around €3.50/kg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭razor8


    Roughly €2.18/kg in today's terms not allowing anything for inflation.

    Allowing for inflation of 60% around €3.50/kg.

    Here’s the average prices from 1985 to 1995


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    what happened 30 years ago for the market to collapse was it purely ewe numbers ? i remember reading there were around 5 million ewes around 1992 in republic. whats the number now 2.3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    I remember selling finished butchers lambs for 8 old Irish pounds

    300 gallons of diesel (year's supply) used to cost 30 pounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    what happened 30 years ago for the market to collapse was it purely ewe numbers ? i remember reading there were around 5 million ewes around 1992 in republic. whats the number now 2.3?

    There was very good subsidies for sheep then, one year there was a double subsidy as the subsidies were a year be hind so they issued twice in the one year.
    could have been £30/ewe that year.
    Am I remembering it right or does anyone remember ???????
    The whole thing was abused anyway and the hills got overgrazed.
    I shore sheep for people that could get them from the north, shear them, inspect them and factory them within a few weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Interestingly the £30 sub is equal to the extra money from having 1.8 lambs/ ewe @ 21kg @ €5.40kg based on the 1992 bottom of the market

    £1.81 Bottom market 1992
    1.27 IR£/ €
    163.10% Inflation Jul 1992 - Jul 2020
    €3.75 1992 Bottom market 2020 terms
    €1.65 Extra/kg @ €5.40

    €62.40 Extra for 1.8 lambs 21kg @ 5.40/kg
    €62.14 £30 sub/ewe in 2020 terms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    farming93 wrote: »
    The big lads who had sheep numbers here have converted to dairying. There's not a quarter of sheep farmers here as there was a number of years ago. I don't know what it's like anywhere else though.

    The factories have alot to answer for as well. All the messing with imports to suppress prices over a number of years has meant lads just figured it wasnt worth the time working for nothing. Their just reaping what they sowed now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Lamb prices strong this week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Young95


    Kevhog1988 wrote: »
    Lamb prices strong this week

    What they quoting ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    For selling cull ewes, mart or factory best atm ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    wrangler wrote: »
    There was very good subsidies for sheep then, one year there was a double subsidy as the subsidies were a year be hind so they issued twice in the one year.
    could have been £30/ewe that year.
    Am I remembering it right or does anyone remember ???????
    The whole thing was abused anyway and the hills got overgrazed.
    I shore sheep for people that could get them from the north, shear them, inspect them and factory them within a few weeks

    Spot on but think ewe sub was nearer 20 pound at the time plus the DA got an extra top up as far as I know.
    Remember getting the double payment one year.

    The sub money was nice but the hogget price collapse on the Monday following the end of retention (late March/early April?) used to be spectacular.
    Brought 75kg char. cross ewe lambs to Kilkenny for a neighbour that had them soley for the sub.These were the ones too heavy for the factory.
    No feeding,just ran on grass and stubble from October till the earliest sale date possible after retention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Young95 wrote: »
    What they quoting ?

    5;50 to 5;60 flat inc. QA for this morning.Just in the door having a mug of coffee after dropping a load in Kildare.Not overly busy and still keen for stock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    i never seen prices like that this time of year. great stuff. a hard brexit will have us all in dairy money yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    i never seen prices like that this time of year. great stuff. a hard brexit will have us all in dairy money yet.

    I was reading a bit about the proposed customs checks on the borders and what that would involve in terms of live animal trade. Seemingly, any British animals being traded to the north for slaughter would have to be accounted for in northern plants so the old ruse of sheep being exported to the north and moved down south for slaughter to keep a lid on prices down here could finally be coming to an end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    what a bigger one is british lamb being brought across the border and and when there really stuck they go to carlisle mart and buy up lambs and bring them back to navan to slaughter as irish lamb, the lamb never grazed a blade of republic of ireland grass. surely there will be a duty on those lambs making it unsustainable. the other side of the coin is British lamb can t be sold into the EU without tax and duties making it too expensive for France, Belgium, Holland and Sweden the big importers of lamb. Leaves Ireland as the only European country of any scale with the market to themselves.NZ lamb quota not being filled at minute and wont be. NZ flock is diminishing every year as farmers convert more and more land to dairy, vast majority of NZ lamb going to Asia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    Sold 12 40 kg Belclare x Texel ewe lambs today €91, also had 10 suffolk x Belclare 42 kg which sold at €104. Amazing the difference a bit of colour can make to the price of sheep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Sold 12 40 kg Belclare x Texel ewe lambs today €91, also had 10 suffolk x Belclare 42 kg which sold at €104. Amazing the difference a bit of colour can make to the price of sheep.

    What area is this ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    Tileman wrote: »
    What area is this ?

    Elphin


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