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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #5732
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Sure, releasing his taxes would clear everything but he appears to be actively afraid of them coming out before the election.

    Taxes

    SAT scores

    College exam results

    For someone with nothing to hide he sure does go to a lot of trouble to keep things out of the public eye.


  • #5733
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,614 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The funny thing is, everyone on this thread knows without question what would have happened if Biden (or even Hilary 2016) refused to release their tax returns.


  • #5734
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Certain people People want to see his tax returns to prove that he's not making policy decisions that financially benefit him.

    Trump - I'm under no obligation to release my tax returns , it's nobodies business and nobody cares anyway.

    Also Trump - Obama must release his birth cert to prove he's American , he can't be President if he doesn't do this , the American people have a right to know about their President so they can trust him.

    Not everyone wants to see them since some people don't care about them as long as he keeps his promise of Making America Great Again.

    He didn't really believe that Obama wasn't an American citizen he was just showing us how easy it is to manipulate the media and get them talking about a story that he created.


  • #5735
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Not everyone wants to see them since some people don't care about them as long as he keeps his promise of Making America Great Again.

    He didn't really believe that Obama wasn't an American citizen he was just showing us how easy it is to manipulate the media and get them talking about a story that he created.

    Explaining Trump's behaviour after the fact as some sort of clever analysis of society.... Do you really believe that?


  • #5736
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »

    He didn't really believe that Obama wasn't an American citizen he was just showing us how easy it is to manipulate the media and get them talking about a story that he created.

    Do you actually believe this stuff?


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  • #5737
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Explaining Trump's behaviour after the fact as some sort of clever analysis of society.... Do you really believe that?
    salmocab wrote: »
    Do you actually believe this stuff?


    Yes I do.


  • #5738
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Not everyone wants to see them since some people don't care about them as long as he keeps his promise of Making America Great Again.

    He didn't really believe that Obama wasn't an American citizen he was just showing us how easy it is to manipulate the media and get them talking about a story that he created.

    You make up more fake stories than your tan in a can hero :rolleyes:


  • #5739
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yes

    What could he do that you wouldn’t explain away happily?


  • #5740
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    salmocab wrote: »
    What could he do that you wouldn’t explain away happily?

    Breaking the law.


  • #5741
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Breaking the law.

    do you include bank fraud in that?


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  • #5742
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you include bank fraud in that?

    Yes I can't support a criminal.


  • #5743
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    The only people who actually care about his tax returns were diehard dem voters anyway. The tax return thing doesn't bother floating voters or republicans anyway, America is a country that was built on avoiding taxes, its one of the most patriotic things you can do there. Not releasing the returns makes everyone think theres something in there which makes middle and upper America only resonate with him.

    No **** sherlock .... as if a republican or Trump cult follower would like to see his tax returns :rolleyes:


  • #5744
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    Yes I can't support a criminal.

    Pick one
    He illegally discriminated against prospective black and Hispanic tenants in his real estate business way back in the 1970s. He avoided charges by settling with the Justice Department and paying a fine.

    He illegally hired undocumented workers for his various businesses. He avoided charges by using his money and influence to sweep those crimes under the rug.

    He illegally operated a fraudulent “university” and a self-dealing “foundation.” He avoided charges by paying millions of dollars to settle those cases.

    He has been credibly accused of sexual harassment/assault by more than a dozen women. He avoided charges by attacking his victims and spending untold fortunes on legal defense.

    He was an unindicted co-conspirator in the illegal porn-star adultery payoffs that landed his personal lawyer in prison. He avoided charges largely because of a questionable Justice Department guideline that says sitting presidents can’t be indicted.

    He illegally obstructed justice in the investigation of his 2016 election collusion with Russia. He avoided charges because Special Counsel Robert Mueller declined to make a recommendation about whether or not his actions were criminal. Spoiler alert: Thousands of former federal prosecutors say his actions were, indeed, criminal.

    He illegally solicited election interference from a foreign nation, illegally obstructed the congressional investigation of his actions, illegally extorted/bribed a foreign leader for political favors, and illegally withheld foreign aid approved by Congress. He avoided charges because he’s a sitting president. He was impeached but not removed from office because Republicans in the Senate served as his tainted jury and bent reality to suit their political motives.

    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-John-Sheirer-32545210


    Read the whole piece, you might pick up a thing or two


  • #5745
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    weisses wrote: »
    Pick one



    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-John-Sheirer-32545210


    Read the whole piece, you might pick up a thing or two

    And now wait for the


    "Ahhhh but there was no trial, and he wasn't convicted of a crime, and he is innocent, and sure discrimination isn't really a crime its just a word to keep the poor people happy"

    Or some other lame excuse as to why tan in a can isnt really a "criminal".


  • #5746
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    weisses wrote: »
    Pick one



    https://www.gazettenet.com/Columnist-John-Sheirer-32545210


    Read the whole piece, you might pick up a thing or two

    More fake news.

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime so he is not a criminal.


  • #5747
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    More fake news.

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime so he is not a criminal.

    ^^^^^^

    Called it!


  • #5748
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And now wait for the


    "Ahhhh but there was no trial, and he wasn't convicted of a crime, and he is innocent, and sure discrimination isn't really a crime its just a word to keep the poor people happy"

    Or some other lame excuse as to why tan in a can isnt really a "criminal".

    He is not a criminal.

    Can you tell me what crime he has been convicted of?


  • #5749
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    More fake news.

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime so he is not a criminal.

    Hahahahaha

    Your lame excuses are predicted even before being posted

    You cannot make this **** up


  • #5750
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    He is not a criminal.

    Can you tell me what crime he has been convicted of?

    Unnamed co-conspirator in the case that took down Michael Cohen


  • #5751
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,138 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    He is not a criminal.

    Can you tell me what crime he has been convicted of?
    Apparently to the left, "credibly accused" means convicted.


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  • #5752
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    More fake news.

    He hasn't been convicted of a crime so he is not a criminal.

    So you're okay with criminals who avoid charges by settling with district attorneys? So basically rich criminals are fine. Your moral compass is pretty warped. The man isn't legally allowed to manage a charity because of how it operated for his own benefit.


  • #5753
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    He is not a criminal.

    Can you tell me what crime he has been convicted of?

    If I am running around killing people am I considered a criminal ?

    yes or no


  • #5754
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Unnamed co-conspirator in the case that took down Michael Cohen

    And what crime was Trump convicted of in that case?


  • #5755
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you're okay with criminals who avoid charges by settling with district attorneys? So basically rich criminals are fine. Your moral compass is pretty warped. The man isn't legally allowed to manage a charity because of how it operated for his own benefit.

    He is not a criminal as he has not been convicted of a crime.

    A settlement does not mean he is guilty of a crime, or that it is an admission of guilt.


  • #5756
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Apparently to the left, "credibly accused" means convicted.

    I know, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?


  • #5757
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    He is not a criminal as he has not been convicted of a crime.

    A settlement does mean he is guilty of a crime, or that it is an admission of guilt.
    He illegally operated a fraudulent “university” and a self-dealing “foundation.” He avoided charges by paying millions of dollars to settle those cases.

    ;)


  • #5758
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    He is not a criminal as he has not been convicted of a crime.

    A settlement does mean he is guilty of a crime, or that it is an admission of guilt.

    So you had no problem with OJ Simpson when he got off for killing his wife? Never convicted so all good.


  • #5759
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    I know, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    So I am not a criminal when running around killing people .... Only when I'm actually caught doing it ?


  • #5760
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you had no problem with OJ Simpson when he got off for killing his wife? Never convicted so all good.

    Yup innocent until proven guilty.


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  • #5761
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    And what crime was Trump convicted of in that case?

    he wsan't indicted because Barr decided that a president cannot be indicted. very convenient for trump. But dont worry, Trump's time in prison orange will come.


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