BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

colm_mcm · 02-09-2020 10:54PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Its a Rover Metro

They’ve rebadged it you fool!

BonnieSituation · 02-09-2020 11:07PM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

As you know yourself, I used to be all over small cars like these too...
That was until somebody pointed out the crash test on the Seicento. Just looked at the one on the Rover 100 now too, and that was NEWER than the Metro! All I can say is yikes! :eek:

Everytime I see a metro pop up here i always think to the first time they released EuroNCAP videos back in the day and I will never forget the metro. I actually shudder when I see them. I shuddered when that post went up earlier!

BonnieSituation · 02-09-2020 11:08PM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Bookmarked that one earlier. It's as good as they come in Bangernomics really. Taxed until end of May next year and with the Covid extension, it's NCT is until May also. Drive it until then and flog it on for as much as you can get

Just thinking the same thing myself actually.

Perfect bangernomics

wotzgoingon · 03-09-2020 12:05AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Just thinking the same thing myself actually.

Perfect bangernomics

Some mad colour though.

BonnieSituation · 03-09-2020 01:22AM

It's a Carisma. They even looked stupid in silver and black.

And that's pretty hard to do tbf to it and Mitsubishi.

filbert the fox · 03-09-2020 07:45AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

It's a Carisma. They even looked stupid in silver and black.

And that's pretty hard to do tbf to it and Mitsubishi.

When a car badge was ever inappropriate!!
Should've been called a Mitsubishi Dull or Mitsubishi WishyWashy:p

kenmm · 03-09-2020 07:50AM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

My ma’s first car. I would!

I would yer ma too :pac:

Nah seriously, I was thinking the same thing.. could I buy this for a couple of hundred for nostalgia?
It probably be **** tho, wouldn't it?

3d4life · 03-09-2020 09:04AM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

As you know yourself, I used to be all over small cars like these too...
That was until somebody pointed out the crash test on the Seicento. Just looked at the one on the Rover 100 now too, and that was NEWER than the Metro! All I can say is yikes! :eek:

What chance that the one for sale has a driver airbag ?

filbert the fox · 03-09-2020 09:10AM

those dummies are brutal drivers - haven't seen one yet that didn't crash - and no tyre marks either!!

slipperyox · 03-09-2020 09:25AM

Prior to air bag, procon 10 was an amazing system that still has a place

kenmm · 03-09-2020 09:27AM

slipperyox wrote: »

Prior to air bag, procon 10 was an amazing system that still has a place

TIL - Thanks!

BonnieSituation · 03-09-2020 09:37AM

slipperyox wrote: »

Prior to air bag, procon 10 was an amazing system that still has a place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten

Indeed. Fascinating stuff. Has it been completely superseded by airbags?

kenmm wrote: »

TIL - Thanks!

TIL2

kenmm · 03-09-2020 09:52AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Indeed. Fascinating stuff. Has it been completely superseded by airbags?

I would assume that the Airbag technology has become so reliable and efficient that there is no need to add anything else here (I mean economies of scale etc as well). Combined with and the Procon 10 possibly bringing more limitations (in terms of cable routing and engine placement) it would probably have been completely superseded by now.

But I am guessing here - I only read about it for the firs time an hour ago!

colm_mcm · 03-09-2020 09:55AM

Just to be pedantic - it’s “procon-ten”

The ‘ten’ meaning tension.

Seatbelt pretensioners made the system obselete.

kenmm · 03-09-2020 10:00AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Just to be pedantic - it’s “procon-ten”

The ‘ten’ meaning tension.

Seatbelt pretensioners made the system obselete.

The cool kids use a 10

Nah cheers, both points make sense.

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 10:11AM

Procon-ten sounds like a strain of coronavirus these days.

BonnieSituation · 03-09-2020 10:13AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Just to be pedantic - it’s “procon-ten”

The ‘ten’ meaning tension.

Seatbelt pretensioners made the system obselete.

I actually had assumed that they were also in the vehicles in question as well.

Everyday's a school day on Motors.

Sam Russell · 03-09-2020 10:26AM

3d4life wrote: »

What chance that the one for sale has a driver airbag ?

In the crash video, the airbag was useless. The dummy was thrown past it and it offered no protection for the driver.

The passenger had no airbag, but then, the crash was on the other side so it did not matter so much.

I have decided these old cars are death traps in a crash - particularly if rust had weakened their structure.

wonski · 03-09-2020 11:09AM

Seicento had similar rating to BMW series 3 of that vintage.

Iirc Renault was leading in the safety at that time, Volvo probably, too.

The rest was mostly bad. Or really bad.

Most bangeromics posted here will be more modern, but you still can't vouch for the safety system to be working correctly.

Many people resetting airbag light etc. And even if there is no fault they are recommended to be checked every 10 years. I doubt there was a single check done on this item on any car.

Seen few accidents where airbags didn't deploy at all on some shows.

Best advice is not to crash into things

No matter how safe the car is.

kaizersoze · 03-09-2020 12:09PM

Jesus the camera angle showing the feet and pedals would make your teeth water........:eek::eek::eek:

monster1 · 03-09-2020 04:03PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/01-fiat-seciento/25823108

NCT all the way til August 2021, tax til November, €350

Hard to go wrong at that money.

Badly stuck for a cheap runabout while work being done on my car.
The no garuentee thing has me worried..
Would it be worth the risk duke? Cheers

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 04:10PM

What guarantee are you expecting from someone selling a €350 car? Make sure it starts, runs and stops right, steers straight, doesn't burn or leaks oil, doesn't over heat and isn't rusting. Have it checked over by someone who knows their way around cars failing that.

BonnieSituation · 03-09-2020 04:13PM

wonski wrote: »

Seicento had similar rating to BMW series 3 of that vintage.

Iirc Renault was leading in the safety at that time, Volvo probably, too.

The rest was mostly bad. Or really bad.

Most bangeromics posted here will be more modern, but you still can't vouch for the safety system to be working correctly.

Many people resetting airbag light etc. And even if there is no fault they are recommended to be checked every 10 years. I doubt there was a single check done on this item on any car.

Seen few accidents where airbags didn't deploy at all on some shows.

Best advice is not to crash into things

No matter how safe the car is.

The Laguna II was the first car to get a 5 star EuroNCAP rating. Renault focussed on safety as their USP at the time trying to take the mantle from Volvo.

wonski · 03-09-2020 04:15PM

And to add to the above make sure you can insure it.

350 euro car if it drives, turns and stops that's it.

Still would be good to get in on a ramp and make sure it isn't falling apart, though.

BonnieSituation · 03-09-2020 04:16PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

In the crash video, the airbag was useless. The dummy was thrown past it and it offered no protection for the driver.

The passenger had no airbag, but then, the crash was on the other side so it did not matter so much.

I have decided these old cars are death traps in a crash - particularly if rust had weakened their structure.

Older cars are indeed deathtraps.

It's something I'm very conscious about as I delve into a resto on a couple I have over the next while.

I'm seriously considering some safety augmentation when the body is stripped down bare. But what can or will be done I don't know.
I've never seen much online about such things.

monster1 · 03-09-2020 04:33PM

wonski wrote: »

And to add to the above make sure you can insure it.

350 euro car if it drives, turns and stops that's it.

Still would be good to get in on a ramp and make sure it isn't falling apart, though.

Driving other cars policy still not effective for a car with valid taxx and test and not in your name?
Sorry, haven't bought a car in about 9 years

wonski · 03-09-2020 04:34PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Older cars are indeed deathtraps.

It's something I'm very conscious about as I delve into a resto on a couple I have over the next while.

I'm seriously considering some safety augmentation when the body is stripped down bare. But what can or will be done I don't know.
I've never seen much online about such things.

Cars crashing into the walls are generally deathtraps.

If you overthink it you are in a metal cage doing 120 km/h on a motorway, or you are 1m away from having a head on collision on a regional road every minute while driving to work with combined speed of 160km/h.

Some drivers can have a heart attack or being drunk as ****.

Let's enjoy the bangeromics for what they are and not what they become when hitting a stationary wall at speed, can we?

Just a thought

wonski · 03-09-2020 04:37PM

monster1 wrote: »

Driving other cars policy still not effective for a car with valid taxx and test and not in your name?
Sorry, haven't bought a car in about 9 years

If you buy it it's yours. So no longer other car. If they let you switch the policy to it that's fine.

Check before you buy is what I meant. You can temporarily switch to another car normally, but some insurance companies like to complicate things.

monster1 · 03-09-2020 04:44PM

wonski wrote: »

If you buy it it's yours. So no longer other car. If they let you switch the policy to it that's fine.

Check before you buy is what I meant. You can temporarily switch to another car normally, but some insurance companies like to complicate things.

Would be in a housemates name... Just a car to get to work a to b, 10km total. I was cycling, but I twisted my ankle yesterday ðŸ˜‚

wonski · 03-09-2020 04:52PM

monster1 wrote: »

Would be in a housemates name... Just a car to get to work a to b, 10km total. I was cycling, but I twisted my ankle yesterday ðŸ˜‚

Just switch the policy from the car being fixed to the one you buy rather than trying silly tricks.

Leave the housemate alone, last thing he needs is being registered owner of a car he has nothing to do with;)

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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