Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

Stark · 01-09-2020 10:49AM

TaurenDruid wrote: »

It is by no means a narrow pavement.

So okay for cyclists to be on footpaths as long as they're not narrow then?

Sean O'Casey bridge is about twice the width of the footpath next to North Strand road.

MadYaker · 01-09-2020 10:51AM

I commute by bike most of the time. I only take the car if it’s really awful out. I don’t understand why anyone cycles on paths. You can’t do 30 - 40kph on the path. The surface is terrible, the curbs will damage my wheels if I don’t stop, I’ve no right of way when I come to junctions, pedestrians in the way etc. I don’t get why anyone does it. I’ve been commuting by bike for a year and I’ve not had a close call with a car to be honest. When I’m cycling I act like a car, I stop at lights, I use turning lanes and roundabouts properly etc I’ve not had any problems with drivers. The council around here claim they’ve put in “bike lanes” but really they just painted a line down the middle of the footpaths where ever they’re wide enough. Best to ignore that nonsense and stay on the road.

Stark · 01-09-2020 10:57AM

I do occasionally cycle briefly on the footpath in order to get round obstacles on the road or when manoeuvring the next junction safely requires acting more like a pedestrian than a car (for example, using the pedestrian crossing to get across 3 lanes of traffic). Other than that, yeah I have no desire to be mixing with slower moving pedestrians, and that includes the so called "cycle lanes" where some council idiot slapped a couple of signs and a bit of paint on the footpath. And which are considered "perfectly good cycle lanes" from the same people who think we couldn't possibly allow cyclists and pedestrians on the likes of Sean O'Casey bridge for example. Even though it's wider than most greenways.

Pinch Flat · 01-09-2020 10:57AM

Lots of kids cycling on the paths around me now that the schools are back. Same last weekend- families with kids heading to and from the pheonix park and royal canal. I'm assuming the reason they do this is because they feel intimidated on the roads, which we've already covered up thread.

kenmm · 01-09-2020 11:01AM

RE 'Other cycling issues' - how do you go about changing the bite point of hydraulic brakes - sometimes its a bit spongy, do I need to pump them or bleed them or what?

Stark · 01-09-2020 11:06AM

kenmm wrote: »

RE 'Other cycling issues' - how do you go about changing the bite point of hydraulic brakes - sometimes its a bit spongy, do I need to pump them or bleed them or what?

Probably need to bleed them.

breezy1985 · 01-09-2020 12:45PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Lots of kids cycling on the paths around me now that the schools are back. Same last weekend- families with kids heading to and from the pheonix park and royal canal. I'm assuming the reason they do this is because they feel intimidated on the roads, which we've already covered up thread.

If the kids are too young to have a car on the road I have no problems with them not using bikes on the roads. As long as they are courteous to pedestrians obviously

07Lapierre · 01-09-2020 01:52PM

Personally I think pedestrians should be banned! They don’t pay road OR pavement tax! They wear headphones and stare at their phones while crossing our roads! They should be required to have ID tattooed on their forehead at all times! (And wear hi cuz and helmets at all times)

TaurenDruid · 01-09-2020 03:29PM

Stark wrote: »

So okay for cyclists to be on footpaths as long as they're not narrow then?

Sean O'Casey bridge is about twice the width of the footpath next to North Strand road.

If you're estimates of relative sizes is that off, should you even be on the road? Or in the bedroom? :eek:

AndrewJRenko · 01-09-2020 05:55PM

Stark wrote: »

So okay for cyclists to be on footpaths as long as they're not narrow then?

So fat cyclists like me are good to go then?

07Lapierre · 01-09-2020 07:16PM

TaurenDruid wrote: »

If you're estimates of relative sizes is that off, should you even be on the road? Or in the bedroom? :eek:

No Doughal ... it’s small because it’s far away! We’ve been over this.

Tea drinker · 01-09-2020 09:08PM

kenmm wrote: »

RE 'Other cycling issues' - how do you go about changing the bite point of hydraulic brakes - sometimes its a bit spongy, do I need to pump them or bleed them or what?

Bleeding obvious solution :-)
On cars I've changed flexi hydraulic hoses to cure sponginess / excessive travel caused by the hose breaking down after several years.

07Lapierre · 01-09-2020 09:42PM

Ah I'm sure if you asked these drivers, they'd say "I'll only be a minute"..sure what harm is being done?

https://twitter.com/msleedy/status/1300762053473382403?s=21

breezy1985 · 01-09-2020 09:53PM

Maybe we should hold a protest some day and all park our bikes in the middle of the road with signs saying "just running into the shop"

Could chain them all to each other across the street like a barrier

TaurenDruid · 01-09-2020 10:28PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

Ah I'm sure if you asked these drivers, they'd say "I'll only be a minute"..sure what harm is being done?

https://twitter.com/msleedy/status/1300762053473382403?s=21

"What harm is being done?"

Now, where have I heard that before... oh, yeah! I remember now.

07Lapierre · 01-09-2020 10:56PM

TaurenDruid wrote: »

"What harm is being done?"

Now, where have I heard that before... oh, yeah! I remember now.

And? Sure they're only going to be a minute? And sure they pay road tax and sure where else are they supposed to park? Geez!

Charles Babbage · 01-09-2020 11:00PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Lots of kids cycling on the paths around me now that the schools are back. Same last weekend- families with kids heading to and from the pheonix park and royal canal. I'm assuming the reason they do this is because they feel intimidated on the roads, which we've already covered up thread.

People do not have right to intimidate law abiding pedestrians just because they feel like it. All criminals see some advantage in their behaviour or they would not do it.

07Lapierre wrote: »

Personally I think pedestrians should be banned! They don’t pay road OR pavement tax! They wear headphones and stare at their phones while crossing our roads! They should be required to have ID tattooed on their forehead at all times! (And wear hi cuz and helmets at all times)

Given the pitiful level of debate in this thread, that's about as convincing a pro cyclist post as any.

breezy1985 wrote: »

If the kids are too young to have a car on the road I have no problems with them not using bikes on the roads. As long as they are courteous to pedestrians obviously

If they are not capable of riding on the road then then it is likely that they will show any respect for pedestrians?
No, they can learn to ride on the road, or walk, as we all did.

magicbastarder · 01-09-2020 11:07PM

i learned to ride on a cul de sac, not on the roads i cycled to school on, thankfully.

breezy1985 · 02-09-2020 09:17AM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

If they are not capable of riding on the road then then it is likely that they will show any respect for pedestrians?
No, they can learn to ride on the road, or walk, as we all did.

Grand I'll make sure to tell that to all the 8 year olds.

Thelonious Monk · 02-09-2020 10:28AM

Another pedestrian killed by a person driving a car yesterday. It seems to be every few days.

TaurenDruid · 02-09-2020 10:58AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Another pedestrian killed by a person driving a car yesterday. It seems to be every few days.

Somebody should probably start a thread about it!

magicbastarder · 02-09-2020 11:35AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Another pedestrian killed by a person driving a car yesterday. It seems to be every few days.

a cyclist has also died following a collision on monday, the one on north wall quay. it was a hit and run.

Thelonious Monk · 02-09-2020 11:36AM

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Somebody should probably start a thread about it!

Yeah but they wont that's my point. No one cares about actual people dying on the roads. A teenager also died in Donegal yesterday in a car.
I just don't understand why everyone is cool with this, yet lose their f*cking sh*t when anything about cycling comes up, like they're a real danger on the roads.

07Lapierre · 02-09-2020 01:10PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

a cyclist has also died following a collision on monday, the one on north wall quay. it was a hit and run.

An innocent man with a young family is killed and people still victim blaming!some of the comments on journal.ie are awful!

Thelonious Monk · 02-09-2020 01:14PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

An innocent man with a young family is killed and people still victim blaming!some of the comments on journal.ie are awful!

Yep, and no blame for the teenager killed in Donegal. Teenagers always seem to die in Donegal, probably through wreckless driving and drink driving. No one dares comment on that though.

Thelonious Monk · 02-09-2020 01:17PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

An innocent man with a young family is killed and people still victim blaming!some of the comments on journal.ie are awful!

Given that it looks likely the car was stolen by local scumbags, they're still trying to blame the cyclist.

07Lapierre · 02-09-2020 01:23PM

Compare it to this article!
Nobody calling for pedestrians to only use pedestrian crossings or wear helmets! ( and rightly so of course)

https://www.thejournal.ie/pedestrian-car-crash-new-ross-5193075-Sep2020/

Thelonious Monk · 02-09-2020 01:28PM

07Lapierre wrote: »

Compare it to this article!
Nobody calling for pedestrians to only use pedestrian crossings or wear helmets! ( and rightly so of course)

Man (36) dies after being hit by car in Wexford

Yes and it's not like we don't see pedestrians doing stupid risky things all the time. It's all proof that there's an irrational hatred against people on bikes.

xckjoo · 02-09-2020 02:01PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes and it's not like we don't see pedestrians doing stupid risky things all the time. It's all proof that there's an irrational hatred against people on bikes.

Wouldn't be so sure. I see plenty of people blaming road deaths on people walking in front of cars and sure "how could the driver possibly be expected to stop". Maybe if it happens on a motorway where people aren't allowed walk, but anywhere else it's driving with undue care (IMO)

TaurenDruid · 02-09-2020 02:04PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes and it's not like we don't see pedestrians doing stupid risky things all the time. It's all proof that there's an irrational hatred against people on bikes.

"Irrational hatred" is maybe a bit strong, but I get what you mean.

I wonder why that might be?

Possibly, just maybe, the number of cyclists very obviously and visibly ignoring the rules of the road, running reds, cycling the wrong way up one-way-streets, cycling in pedestrian zones and footpaths, all the time? And the whataboutery and deflection when people complain about it?

Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

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