Adele accused of 'Cultural Appropriation'

There is a difference between mocking a culture and copying a culture, or parts thereof.

Mocking is making fun of it, copying is because the person likes it.

This SJW bandwagon isn't getting the difference and thinks its all about making fun of the culture and get outraged at every little thing they can because they ultimately want to make trouble for the person they are being outraged at.


Absolute Nonsense.

Is this similar to the concept of being a "plastic paddy"?

I tried to educate myself on this and to be honest I understand how this example, relating to people who reduce a culturally significant item or outfit to something that is a novelty or a gimmick, would be offensive:

For the [Native American] communities that wear these headdresses, they represent respect, power and responsibility. The headdress has to be earned, gifted to a leader in whom the community has placed their trust. When it becomes a cheap commodity anyone can buy and wear to a party, that meaning is erased and disrespected, and Native peoples are reminded that our cultures are still seen as something of the past, as unimportant in contemporary society, and unworthy of respect.

Maybe it's the same for this hairstyle Adele had.

However this is a load of bollox:

In Britain, the rough tweed cloth clothing of the Irish, English and Scottish peasantry, including the flat cap and Irish hat were appropriated by the upper classes as the British country clothing worn for sports such as hunting or fishing, in imitation of the then Prince of Wales. The country clothing, in turn, was appropriated by the wealthy American Ivy League and later preppy subcultures during the 1950s and 1980s due to both its practicality and its association with the English elite.

Flat caps and tweed outfits are surely not, or never were, a core aspect of an Irish persons culture.

Oh for God’s sake. Culture isn’t something finite like land or resources; me utilising an aspect of a given culture doesn’t deprive someone else from doing something. For instance me cooking a curry or doing yoga doesn’t stop Indians from doing it either, we’ve always swapped and drawn from other cultures. If we follow this logic onto its natural conclusion then listening to reggae or doing salsa or karate etc is all “cultural appropriation”; I mean what do people want? People to behave solely within the confines of their assigned ethnicity? There’s a word for that like. Honestly I think a lot of this mad wokelord stuff ends up going full circle and becoming racist in itself.

There are arguments about black hair being penalised in school and work etc, or culture being mocked and degraded - the argument with that is with straight up racism, not Adele wearing a Jamaican flag bikini or some lad making miso soup.

This culture war stuff is such a load of draining b*llocks and completely misses the issues we need to be focussing on collectively. If the CIA wanted to sabotage the viability of ‘left’ politics then they couldn’t have done a better job than insert all of this rubbish into left discourse.

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

What ethnicity are the RTÉ employees that typed the article, that approved it etc.?

Why do people keep asking this rhetorical question? I imagine most people at RTE are white so what's your point?

Is the suggestion that only black people should care about black issues? It's common in gender wars threads, for men to complain that it shouldn't be just left to men to advocate for men's issues, but in this case it seems you want to mock non-black people for getting involved in a black issue.

As it happens I disagree with whatever people are having a go at this wan for wearing bantu style hair.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Why do people keep asking this rhetorical question? I imagine most people at RTE are white so what's your point?

Is the suggestion that only black people should care about black issues? It's common in ge der wars threads for men to complain that it shouldn't be just left to men to advocate for men's issues, but in this case it seems you want to mock non-black people for getting involved in a black issue.

As it happens I disagree with whatever people are having a go at this wan for wearing bantu style hair.

I think you missed the point of the post.

Wind your neck in and relax

Not having it. We bang on about globalisation and we talk about the mixing of cultures being a product of it. This is, for me, the result. If you put a keen eye over history you will see that cultures have mixed overtime or have borrowed from each other. It says nothing of the person if they admire a certain style/fashion of a culture. Provided it's not a sacred garment or done in a derogatory way or something then go for it.

Notting hill carnival is a celebration of Caribbean heritage, does this mean folks who do not have Caribbean roots may not celebrate? Can people around the world not celebrate St. Patricks day and have to take of the Tri Colour paraphenellia too? It's such a stupid slippery slope you could sit there and argue a huge number of things are cultural appropriation if you really wanted to.

It's a stupid argument in most cases and I think all it does to do is draw strong lines between each other i.e. "this is us and this is you, so let's keep it that way" All smacks a little bit of racism to me.

I can't wait for the hardcore Aran Islanders to demand removal of all those Aran sweaters on the market. Oy veh!

Does using electricity or American social media platforms count as cultural appropriation?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Mainly Micks and Paddys I reckon. But from the same family, roughly speaking.

You have something against Micks and Paddy I think