2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

1990sman wrote: »

isnt unemployment up since the auld covid?

so why not trump? whats so special about biden?

here i'll make it easy:
TRUMP WILL MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT OF USA THAN BIDEN - CHANGE MY MIND

The wall! He couldn't even build a fooking wall and him a property tycoon. gives his blessing to a bunch of his fellow right whinge grifters to build it for him and the fooking thing falls down and they then get arrested for being the con artists they are (and arrested on a Chynamams boat just for the craic too)
You could'nt make this ****e up.

#IMPOTUS campaign up to legal shenanigans, getting a judge to invalidate a bunch of mail-in ballot requests.


"A judge on Thursday granted President Trump's campaign's appeal to block 50,000 absentee ballot requests in an Iowa county."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514271-judge-grants-trump-campaigns-request-to-block-thousands-of-iowa-absentee

1990sman wrote: »

isnt unemployment up since the auld covid?

so why not trump? whats so special about biden?

here i'll make it easy:
TRUMP WILL MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT OF USA THAN BIDEN - CHANGE MY MIND

Eh he's already the President and things have gone to absolute shiite. Civil unrest (which he takes no responsibility for but fans the flames of). When Biden and Obama were in charge similar issues in the likes of Ferguson never descended in nationwide chaos for months on end.

Absolutely brutal Covid-19 response (22 millions lost their jobs and 185k dead in 6 months and counting which he takes no responsibility for). Under Obama-Biden they dealt with swine flu (c.12,000 deaths over 2 years) and Ebola (2 deaths). Trump called for Obama to resign because of Ebola in the US where 2 people died! The hypocrisy is staggering really.

So yeah Biden probably knows how to be a president and handle crises better.

obama? hahahahahahaha

thanks for that.

but seriously, these are unprecedented times (altho technically all time is) and trump is just a product of the times so who better to helm their wheel than someone who has evolved and adapted with current times. biden is a dinosaur in comparison. altho i like dinosaurs. sorry dinos

1990sman wrote: »

Almost 4 million jobs created since election.

and over 30 million lost

More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

Uhm

We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.

And lost millions more

Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.

actually it was negative 32.9 percent

New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

and also more recently hit a 91-year high

Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

inflation will certainly do that.

African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

and also recently achieved the highest rate in 36 years

Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

Is actually the highest ever recorded at the moment.

Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

actually the highest rate ever recorded

Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.

and more recently is the highest rate ever recorded

Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.

More recently the highest in recorded history

Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

I think you know what I’m about to say here. :pac:

Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

And more Recently bbla bla bla...

Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

You can tell where this has gone lately

Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.

Has been flat actually

Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

Has added $7T in debt since taking office and is running a $3T deficit this year so far.

Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.

They really start scraping the barrel now

Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.

which have been disasters

Record number of regulations eliminated.

that’s not an accomplishment when some include regulations on the amount of lead in drinking water.

Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

Those pesky regulations set up to ensure we don’t have another Great Recession

Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

Which was a judicial feat having nothing to do with the Trump administration.

My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.

Lol no

Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.

That hasn’t happened yet.

We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.

Not familiar with the legislation referenced but given the list I’m sure it’s not as rosy as led on.

Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

And dismantled the apparatus for handling a PANdemic

We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.

Yep, so far on this list about the only consistent accomplishment.

Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

The VA choice act of was signed in 2014 by Obama

He did sign the VA accountability act though, decried as a ”massive failure”[/quote]

Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.

United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

Furthering our climate change is not accomplishment.

Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

seeing that hundreds of billions are signed for the military every year I fail to see how this was noteworthy

NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.

Shaking people down for money whoo hoo

Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.

A vanity project

Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

Considering the breakneck pace they have gone nuclear in confirmations this is hardly an accomplishment but an erosion of bipartisanship. Most of those judges are Trump policital appointees passed along party lines, some have never even tried a case and some are not even APA certified.

Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

Which has encouraged them to continue on with nuclear activity...

Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.

which has stoked increased tensions in the Middle East

Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

It doesn’t protect us it makes us a target.

Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.

It doesn’t protect us it makes us a target

Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.

Yet to really be seen what if anything this will accomplish

Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

Seems vague and procedural.

Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.

A trade war that hurt American businesses including a bailout of farmers. I can tell you first hand volatility in metals has caused financial turmoil in industry.

Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.

And yet he still does business there.

Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.

Oh I’m sure that aged well

Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement

Report out this week that El Paso detention facilities are systematically sexually assaulting children so let’s not pretend this is an accomplishment. We certainly didn’t screen thousands of travelers returning from China in the start of the year...

We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

And still very few new miles of wall. Lots of replacement or upgraded barriers in existing miles of wall tho. And Mexico hasn’t paid for a penny of it.

Next time if you’re going to plagiarize from somewhere best make sure it’s not a heaping pile of garbage.

Biker79 wrote: »

Say ugly poor people everywhere..

Would rather be ugly and poor than be anything like Trump.

1990sman wrote: »

maybe at first but they grew to love each other and appreciate each others individuality to become the guardians of each others privacy, innit.

You say you're "unbiased" when it comes to Trump, yeah?

Biker79 wrote: »

Say ugly poor people everywhere..

Do you think being ugly or poor is a character failing?


You never answered me when I asked you to explain your comment to me about the HK/BLM protests comparison by the way

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

You say you're "unbiased" when it comes to Trump, yeah?

yeah man im not too bothered but the topic of the thread is trump v biden so if i had to pick id go with the trumpster!

Biden reminds me of a lovely old wealthy man you'd meet in Dingle during the summer, over on his holidays from the States completing his long planned trip before he is too elderly to do so again. I actually dread the debates for him.

Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

Biden reminds me of a lovely old wealthy man you'd meet in Dingle during the summer, over on his holidays from the States completing his long planned trip before he is too elderly to do so again. I actually dread the debates for him.

Look - during the Democratic primary the narrative was that Biden would fall asunder and be incoherent and he was fully expected to descend into a bumbling drooling mess in the head-to-head with Bernie Sanders. Didn't happen.

Then Trump and the GOP put out the story that he wouldn't even be able to give his speech at the DNC but he did and it was a good political speech. Meanwhile low energy Trump droned his way through his extremely boring speech with multiple teleprompter fails.

Biden will be fine in the debates, he won't be spectacular but he doesn't need to be. He just needs to let Trump rant and tell lies (which he will) and point them out.

Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

I agree, he came across well reading his prepared speech. But the debates will not have that comfort and that is why I feel sorry for him. Look at any recent video when a host just pops a few regular questions at him that he was not expecting. It would be better if the democrats can avoid the debates altogether.

Better than Trump who struggles badly with the teleprompter and did again at the RNC