2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2020 06:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He doesn't race bait. Also he clearly condemned violence.

He does race bait. Just like many on the left. It's a form of currency for them. They use it for leverage all the time. Hence so many accusations of racism and people even going to great lengths to manufacture racism.

As for him condemning violence: like I said, he (and the rest of the democrats) talked around it for months, and the MSM helped them by not covering the violence at times, which is why the administration showed footage during their pressers.

These are sick times where the left are race baiting for political gain on a monumental level. Thankfully not everyone is falling for the propaganda and can see through all the bs and hopefully they will vote accordingly.

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2020 06:12PM

extra gravy wrote: »

Trump - 20,000 lies and counting. Strange you never call him a liar.

20,000 lies. Stop believing mainstream media propaganda.

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 06:12PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He does race bait. Just like many on the left. It's a form of currency for them. They use it for leverage all the time. Hence so many accusations of racism and people even going to great lengths to manufacture racism.

As for him condemning violence: like I said, he (and the rest of the democrats) talked around it for months, and the MSM helped them by not covering the violence at times, which is why the administration showed footage during their pressers.

These are sick times where the left are race baiting for political gain on a monumental level. Thankfully not everyone is falling for the propaganda and can see through all the bs and hopefully they will vote accordingly.

Now THAT ^^^^^^ is Trump derangement syndrome!

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 06:13PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

20,000 lies. Stop believing mainstream media propaganda.

how many lies has he told?

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 06:14PM

Biker79 wrote: »

Its interesting that a bit of rough play is interpreted as an ' attack ' . Complete rubbish of course. They all went out for shots of vodka after. Laughing at the desperate media.

Incredible to see how much Trump and his supporters have been emasculated by Putin to the point where they are happy to see US troops being bullied by Russian soldiers and they just accept it.

jamule · 28-08-2020 06:18PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He does race bait. Just like many on the left. It's a form of currency for them. They use it for leverage all the time. Hence so many accusations of racism and people even going to great lengths to manufacture racism.

As for him condemning violence: like I said, he (and the rest of the democrats) talked around it for months, and the MSM helped them by not covering the violence at times, which is why the administration showed footage during their pressers.

These are sick times where the left are race baiting for political gain on a monumental level. Thankfully not everyone is falling for the propaganda and can see through all the bs and hopefully they will vote accordingly.

where can you get some race bait? have to goto walmart later and see can i try pay with it

Overheal · 28-08-2020 06:19PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

20,000 lies. Stop believing mainstream media propaganda.

Yes 20k lies, they are well documented.

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 06:21PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

20,000 lies. Stop believing mainstream media propaganda.

20,000 is probably conservative in fairness. He told numerous provable lies last night during his speech including (again) that he brought in the Veterans Choice Act. Here's a picture of Obama signing it into law in 2014. Any comment on that?

President Barack Obama signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans' Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014, at Fort Belvoir, Va., Aug. 7, 2014. The bill provides the Department of Veterans Affairs the resources to improve access and quality of care for veterans. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

extra gravy · 28-08-2020 06:22PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

20,000 lies. Stop believing mainstream media propaganda.

This msm rubbish might wash if we weren't able to watch his interviews, press conferences or read his tweets. Straight from the horse's mouth, we hear and read his lies. The only one believing propaganda around here is you and your ilk.

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2020 06:23PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You claimed the dems are not condemning the riots/violence, There is a video posted above showing Biden doing that yet you choose to ignore it?

I don't believe it's genuine from Biden and I so I believe they all need to begin to do it. Lemon the other night spoke out against the rioting but only because he said the focus groups and polls were now showing it was getting more support for Trump, as he has been condemning it all along.

Honestly, the more it looks like Trump is going the lose the more insanely his zealots will post absolute rubbish. It's gonna be a long few weeks as this carry on gets worse and worse.

I know the truth hurts but you're just going to have to suck it up. The world has seen how left supported the protests over the last few months, calling protests 'peaceful' even though dozens of police were injured. It's not going to be forgotten and nor is it how they used George Floyd's death for their political ends even though they had no evidence his death was racially motivated. They did it anyway as it fit their narrative and that's all that's ever needed with the radical left. The truth is of minor importance.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 06:24PM

You'd have to go through monumental hoops of logic to pretend that Trump is only accused of lying because of media coverage; it's the words that come out of his mouth. Simple as.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 06:25PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The world has seen how left supported the protests over the last few months, calling protests 'peaceful' even though dozens of police were injured.

Sort of like calling cops 'the good guys' even though 100s have murdered victims?

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2020 06:26PM

extra gravy wrote: »

This msm rubbish might wash if we weren't able to watch his interviews, press conferences or read his tweets. Straight from the horse's mouth, we hear and read his lies. The only one believing propaganda around here is you and your ilk.

Anyone who reads one of those 15,000 / 20,000 lies articles can see what bs they are.

Sorry you're buying into that crap but cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 06:28PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone who reads one of those 15,000 / 20,000 lies articles can see what bs they are.

Sorry you're buying into that crap but cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Who lies more often: Biden, or Trump?

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 06:32PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone who reads one of those 15,000 / 20,000 lies articles can see what bs they are.

Sorry you're buying into that crap but cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Any comment on the provable lies he told last night like for example that he brought in Veterans Choice (he didn't - Obama did) or that he has done more for African Americans than any other president except for MAYBE Abe Lincoln (he hasn't) or that Biden wants to defund the police (he explicitly doesn't)? That's just to start with.

jamule · 28-08-2020 06:41PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone who reads one of those 15,000 / 20,000 lies articles can see what bs they are.

Sorry you're buying into that crap but cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

what articles? surely you mean trumps twitter machine

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 06:41PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone who reads one of those 15,000 / 20,000 lies articles can see what bs they are.

Sorry you're buying into that crap but cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Heres a simple question for you,

Did Trump bring in Veterans Choice Act?

If your answer is yes then please explain where/when and provide evidence.

If your answer is no then surely that's proof to you they Trump tells lies right?

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 07:18PM

some interesting stats from trumps speech last night. Biden is living rent-free in trumps head
https://twitter.com/DebraMessing/status/1299223570409758722

Overheal · 28-08-2020 07:24PM

Overheal wrote: »

Who lies more often: Biden, or Trump?

namloc1980 wrote: »

Any comment on the provable lies he told last night like for example that he brought in Veterans Choice (he didn't - Obama did) or that he has done more for African Americans than any other president except for MAYBE Abe Lincoln (he hasn't) or that Biden wants to defund the police (he explicitly doesn't)? That's just to start with.

jamule wrote: »

what articles? surely you mean trumps twitter machine

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Heres a simple question for you,

Did Trump bring in Veterans Choice Act?

If your answer is yes then please explain where/when and provide evidence.

If your answer is no then surely that's proof to you they Trump tells lies right?

Will we get answers today?

duploelabs · 28-08-2020 07:27PM

Overheal wrote: »

Will we get answers today?

It's Pete, of course you won't. Unless it's a completely unrelated video that's 5 years old about something that Biden said out of context

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 07:33PM

Overheal wrote: »

Will we get answers today?

Nope but will keep asking!

Leroy42 · 28-08-2020 07:35PM

duploelabs wrote: »

It's Pete, of course you won't. Unless it's a completely unrelated video that's 5 years old about something that Biden said out of context

But he has gone even further today.

Even if Biden says what he wanted, then it is dismissed as lying. So it really doesn't matter one way or the other.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 07:39PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Even if Biden says what he wanted, then it is dismissed as lying.

That's what baffles me. If there was a video of Trump condemning the killing of George Floyd, we can't say he didn't condemn the killing of George Floyd (and iirc he has), irrespective of the fact he is a pathological liar; so I don't see why someone would try to pretend Biden didn't condemn the violence even though he clearly did, because he has lied and as evidence here's video from years in the past on an entirely unrelated subject...

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 07:44PM

Overheal wrote: »

Will we get answers today?

Of course not! Poster has form for this kind of behaviour, will skulk off out of thread and come back a few pages later when the discussion has moved on. Ask him the questions again and he will just blatantly ignore them.

Its disgraceful and disappointing to see them debate so dishonesty day after day.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 07:47PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Of course not! Poster has form for this kind of behaviour, will skulk off out of thread and come back a few pages later when the discussion has moved on. Ask him the questions again and he will just blatantly ignore them.

Its disgraceful and disappointing to see them debate so dishonesty day after day.

And then users complain that it is an echo chamber - not for lack of opportunities to chime in, lads.

Outlaw Pete · 28-08-2020 07:53PM

Overheal wrote: »

Who lies more often: Biden, or Trump?

Biden. Even when he tells the truth he's lying.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Heres a simple question for you,

Did Trump bring in Veterans Choice Act?

If your answer is yes then please explain where/when and provide evidence.

If your answer is no then surely that's proof to you they Trump tells lies right?

Sigh. He was talking about the Mission Act which gave vets more choice. Always amazes me the lengths you folk go to in an effort to and paint Trump a liar and if that's the best you got then that says it all really. Trump signed the Veterans Choice Extension and Improvement act along with the Mission Act. These acts vastly improved the ease of access to private care for veterans.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1298800852644384771

Cody montana · 28-08-2020 07:57PM

President Trump's Thursday night convention speech making the case for his reelection was lower-rated than his challenger Joe Biden's speech one week ago, according to overnight Nielsen ratings.

About 21.6 million viewers watched coverage of Trump's RNC address across nine cable and broadcast networks, down from 23.6 million viewers who watched Biden's DNC address on the same nine networks.

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 07:59PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Biden. Even when he tells the truth he's lying.

Sigh. He was talking about the Mission Act which gave vets more choice. Always amazes me the lengths you folk go to in an effort to and paint Trump a liar and if that's the best you got then that says it all really. Trump signed the Veterans Choice Extension and Improvement act along with the Mission Act. These acts vastly improved the ease of access to private care for veterans.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1298800852644384771

The stupidity of this post is unbelievable! And then you whinge when people won't take you seriously:rolleyes:

jamule · 28-08-2020 07:59PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Biden. Even when he tells the truth he's lying.

Sigh. He was talking about the Mission Act which gave vets more choice. Always amazes me the lengths you folk go to in an effort to and paint Trump a liar and if that's the best you got then that says it all really. Trump signed the Veterans Choice Extension and Improvement act along with the Mission Act. These acts vastly improved the ease of access to private care for veterans.

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1298800852644384771

you forgot to add that when the glorious leader opens his trap and lies its actually the truth.

whats your take on the criminals and conmen he keeps hiring, jaysus they can't even run a charity without having to con people.

Overheal · 28-08-2020 08:00PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Biden. Even when he tells the truth he's lying.

Wow.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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