Tipping when eating out.

28-08-2020 01:09PM

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CarProblem wrote: »

Laughable. Most of the arguments on here boil down to billy big balls types looking down on others in (what they perceive as) "lowly" jobs (whether they realise or not), but of course only those in the jobs that perceived convention deem tip worthy.

We get this, who'd have thought you'd have done "those jobs". I mean "hell" you've even packed bags before you started throwing money at people

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

And as for the “lowly jobs” remark, most of us worked those jobs at one point, or another. I’ve waited tables, worked behind a bar, hell I’ve even packed shopping bags.

What was that loud bang? I think it was the lack of self awareness meter exploding

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

People who don’t tip “on principle” always seem to be the type who are eternally miserable and have a bit of “grudge” against the world. Always feeling hard done by, no matter what the outcome.

Wouldn't be my experience at all but I'd say a Venn diagram of our social circles would have no intersections. I have, however, come across plenty of total cunts who act the big shot on work nights out etc

the_pen_turner · 28-08-2020 01:13PM

Dav010 wrote: »

Why wouldn’t we have a right?

Because some here think they they are entitled to more of your money than was agreed for the transaction even though they are doing nothing more than their job

Whiplash85 · 28-08-2020 01:13PM

I'd generally leave 10 - 15% if we were out for dinner but that hasn't been any time recently. I think its good manners to tip. People can point to minimum wage and do country comparisons but no one can tell me that someone on minimum wage can get by in this country. In fact I'm surprised this hasn't been a big issue recently with meat plants and fruit and veg facilities and the horrendous conditions they have to live in to get by and indeed work in. Leave a few euros and dont be a tight ass.

yerwanthere123 · 28-08-2020 01:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone work in a restaurant here?

How many tables do they deal with per hour. 5, 10, 15.

If people are seriously tipping 10 or 20%. That could mean tips of 100 or 200 euro on top of their wages.

Some 18 year old heading out the door ar the end of an evening with 200 or 300 euro would be madness.

I've just finished up working in a busy Killarney hotel after 6+ years. On a quieter week, earlier in the year I'd be getting €60/€80 per week. Throughout the summer I'd be getting about €120 a week.

the_pen_turner · 28-08-2020 01:18PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

I'd generally leave 10 - 15% if we were out for dinner but that hasn't been any time recently. I think its good manners to tip. People can point to minimum wage and do country comparisons but no one can tell me that someone on minimum wage can get by in this country. In fact I'm surprised this hasn't been a big issue recently with meat plants and fruit and veg facilities and the horrendous conditions they have to live in to get by and indeed work in. Leave a few euros and dont be a tight ass.

A lot if those are agency workers through foreign countries and dont get the same rights as we do..
A lot of them choose to live like that so they can send home as much money as posible and make a better life for themselves

yerwanthere123 · 28-08-2020 01:20PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

5 euro is plenty, a waitress will probably get 5 euro from 10 people a day or more, soon adds up.

Doesn't work like that. Tips have to be shared/declared in a lot of places. Managers are hardly going to go without are they?

28-08-2020 01:32PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Because some here think they they are entitled to more of your money than was agreed for the transaction even though they are doing nothing more than their job

I don’t look at it from the perspective of an employee thinking they are entitled to a tip, I know Americans do, and some restaurants charge a gratuity, but in most cases, there is no expectation from the staff for you to reward them.

EmmetSpiceland · 28-08-2020 01:33PM

God but isn’t it terrible that some of the lowest level “workers” are getting a few extra quid?

That’s money that could be spent on, cheap, “packet” ham and a tin of beans to be eaten cold and in the dark.

FullBack Jam · 28-08-2020 01:37PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I've eaten out thousands of times across all range of restaurants in numerous countries.

I have only seen wine topped up in one type of establishment and that was a Michelin star restaurant where you're on a tasting menu with accompanying wine.

Otherwise I've never seen staff going around topping up customers' wines for free. Never. Sounds like financial suicide to me for the business.

As for extra portions, you would still order stuff as you don't know you're getting it for free.

Either way, I'd be sceptical of all these stories of free food and drinks in return for tips.

Perhaps if you tipped better, that may change.

murpho999 · 28-08-2020 01:38PM

Dav010 wrote: »

Why wouldn’t we have a right?

Because it's not compulsory to tip and you don't know people's circumstances or their viewpoints.

Just because you tip does not mean everyone has to.

28-08-2020 01:46PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Because it's not compulsory to tip and you don't know people's circumstances or their viewpoints.

Just because you tip does not mean everyone has to.

Again, I have no issue with people who can’t afford to tip not tipping after a meal in a restaurant, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to think you are a tight ass if you can afford it and don’t.

If someone says they don’t tip, I think it’s obvious that their viewpoint is, they don’t tip.

murpho999 · 28-08-2020 02:00PM

Dav010 wrote: »

Again, I have no issue with people who can’t afford to tip not tipping after a meal in a restaurant, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to think you are a tight ass if you can afford it and don’t.

If someone says they don’t tip, I think it’s obvious that their viewpoint is, they don’t tip.

But how do you know if people can afford it or not?

murpho999 · 28-08-2020 02:01PM

flasher0030 wrote: »

Perhaps if you tipped better, that may change.

I tip fine thanks and also don't keep going back to places with expectations.

I still don't really believe that it happens like you say though.

DuckSlice · 28-08-2020 02:09PM

I tip most of the time. I usually just get them to add it onto the bill. 10-15%

I wouldn't see someone as tight if they don't tip. And wouldn't judge anyone even if the perception is they are well off. They could look well off and be up to there tits in debt.

28-08-2020 04:03PM

murpho999 wrote: »

But how do you know if people can afford it or not?

They are the ones that don’t say they refuse to tip on principle, or because they simply don’t want to.

Tipping when eating out.

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