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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I can't think of any administration in living memory that would stand for that. A strongly worded statement at a minimum. It's quite a sign of the USA's new position in the world.

    From a global point of view, it's a good thing for America not to over react to these events.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Irishman80 wrote: »
    I don't think Biden will pull out of the debates. My original point was on the mixed messaging the Democrats were making on the issue today.

    I found out pretty quickly that any criticism of the Democrats and Biden will not be tolerated.

    Seems that way. I find it bizarre that posters can (rightly) sound off on Trump but there is zero tolerance for (rightly) sounding off on Biden.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Overheal wrote: »
    Trump definitely doesn't want you to know about Russia attacking our troops

    https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1299046525776138240?s=20

    "Our troops"? Irish soldier's?


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    From a global point of view, it's a good thing for America not to over react to these events.

    If it was anyone other than the Russians involved you could bet that trump would be on Twitter stoking things up, even more than normal given its an election year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Biker79 wrote: »



    PS: I prefer the term ' Trumpeteer '.

    Orange order is more apt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Seems that way. I find it bizarre that posters can (rightly) sound off on Trump but there is zero tolerance for (rightly) sounding off on Biden.

    Especially as most of us here aren't voters in America and the election isn't that important to us.

    They often rightly criticise Trump fanatics and nut jobs, without being more aware of their own madness (being anti Trump).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    If it was anyone other than the Russians involved you could bet that trump would be on Twitter stoking things up, even more than normal given its an election year.

    The Cold War thing is over. It seems the Democrats are the only ones who want to keep it alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    The Democrats seem to be beginning to get frustrated with Biden. He needs to own this presidential bid on step up front and centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Especially as most of us here aren't voters in America and the election isn't that important to us.

    They often rightly criticise Trump fanatics and nut jobs, without being more aware of their own madness (being anti Trump).

    There's only one side here who claim that their man can do no wrong, isn't what all all fingers point to, and nothing but truth flows from his lips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Seems that way. I find it bizarre that posters can (rightly) sound off on Trump but there is zero tolerance for (rightly) sounding off on Biden.

    You can "sound off" about Biden all you like, The problem is some posters will spam the thread with the same crap over and over (Biden has dementia, Biden will not do the debates) and when they get pulled over for these lies they accuse others of piling on and attacking them.

    Say what you like about Biden, but make sure its the truth, same for Trump, if someone has something to say about him they should ensure that the claim is true.

    Do you not agree?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    duploelabs wrote: »
    There's only one side here who claim that their man can do no wrong, isn't what all all fingers point to, and nothing but truth flows from his lips.

    But who cares! And they are a tiny minority on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    https://twitter.com/paleonut_/status/1298817166326734849?s=21 the Russian are up to their old tricks again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    You can "sound off" about Biden all you like, The problem is some posters will spam the thread with the same crap over and over (Biden has dementia, Biden will not do the debates) and when they get pulled over for these lies they accuse others of piling on and attacking them.

    Say what you like about Biden, but make sure its the truth, same for Trump, if someone has something to say about him they should ensure that the claim is true.

    Do you not agree?

    Point out where I said Biden has dementia or won't do the debates.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Point out where I said Biden has dementia or won't do the debates.

    Thanks

    Did I say you had said that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Biker79 wrote: »
    There is a flagrant abuse of language among Bidenistas.

    Alternative fact, you are talking through your covfefe.

    Biker79 wrote: »
    Much easier to continue spouting nonsense and blindly supporting a party being eaten alive by marxism.

    Have you been drinking the same stuff as killed Joe McCarthy? Give us examples of the marxism you are talking about. Facts please. No more fantasy. Examples please.

    Biker79 wrote: »
    PS: I prefer the term ' Trumpeteer '.

    I prefer the term Golf Bunker Dan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Cold War thing is over. It seems the Democrats are the only ones who want to keep it alive.

    *Laughs in Hillary selling uranium to Russians*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    feargale wrote: »
    Give us examples of the marxism you are talking about. Facts please. No more fantasy. Examples please.

    Wasting your time there asking for examples. That poster has been asked a number of times to back up their claims that the Democratic party and Joe Biden are Marxist/Communist and never responded other than repeating the same right wing lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Democrats seem to be beginning to get frustrated with Biden. He needs to own this presidential bid on step up front and centre.

    Seem how? What’s your evidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    "Our troops"? Irish soldier's?


    Overheal's a yank.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Cold War thing is over. It seems the Democrats are the only ones who want to keep it alive.

    Really because about eight years ago wasn't a republican presidential contender reminded of this.
    Like your claims not to be a trump supporter, even the dogs in the street know that if the incident did or didn't occur with anyone other than the Russians involved, trump would be stoking things up on Twitter straight away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1299033148869599233?s=19

    Positive and uplifting ad from Biden campaign. Airing during the RNC, the viewers will need a break from all the doom and fear mongering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1299073447729872896?s=19

    Hopefully will restore funding to the WHO also. He will be busy clearing up Trump's mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Positive and uplifting ad from Biden campaign.

    Standard fare, nothing more. Nobody ever said the democrats weren't good at talking a good game, in fact they are masters at it, but just like when their leftie foot soldiers spout the same progressive waffle, it's fake, meaningless, they're just saying what they know their base want to hear. With regards to the race angle within the ad, sure they've been using the black community to get votes for decades. Looking as if they were giving them a hand up but simultaneously they had a foot on their shoulders. It's about actions not words. Trump does what needs to be done, Biden won't. They talk about unity but these people have stoked racism all along. Race baiting is what the democrats and liberals do best. You want to see what they really think of black people, just watch how they react when a black person dares to be conservative.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,066 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Standard fare, nothing more. Nobody ever said the democrats weren't good at talking a good game, in fact they are masters at it, but just like when their leftie foot soldiers spout the same progressive waffle, it's fake, meaningless, they're just saying what they know their base want to hear. With regards to the race angle within the ad, sure they've been using the black community to get votes for decades. Looking as if they were giving them a hand up but simultaneously they had a foot on their shoulders. It's about actions not words. Trump does what needs to be done, Biden won't. They talk about unity but these people have stoked racism all along. Race baiting is what the democrats and liberals do best. You want to see what they really think of black people, just watch how they react when a black person dares to be conservative.

    LOCK HER UP. LOCK HER UP. LOCK HER UP
    BUILD THE WALL. BUILD THE WALL. BUILD THE WALL.
    DRAIN THE SWAMP. DRAIN THE SWAMP. DRAIN THE SWAMP.

    'Accuse others of that which you are guilty' - Joseph Goebbels (reportedly)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    briany wrote: »
    This is encapsulated by the fact that Bill Clinton and Trump have associated with Jeffrey Epstein. In a Trump supporter's mind, only one of these is worthy of criticism for that, and no prizes for guessing which.

    There is a huge difference between Trumps and Clinton's relationship with Epstein. Trump would inevitably have met him given the elite circle he is part of. Clinton on the other hand traveled extensively onboard the "Lolita Express" and had an unhealthy fascination with Little St. James. The two relationships with Epstein are not comparable.

    People like Trump and Clinton will always have sex allegations against them because of the amount of money they have. Any allegations against Trump are clearly financially motivated. Read the allegations yourself if your feeling up to it, they are like something from a novel, completely ridiculous. The problem for Clinton is that he has a sordid past of abusing his power for sexual gratification (Jones, Lewenski etc etc) therefore, allegations against him are going to seem more credible.

    Just for the record, this is just all speculation on my part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Don't understand the thinking behind this pushing of the "Biden will pull out of the debates" narrative. Saying it over and over won't make it happen.


    I don't think Biden did himself any favors by refusing to have the extra debate that Trump requested. He really should have show his confidence by taking him on an extra time. Instead he showed weakness.

    The Democrats seem to be beginning to get frustrated with Biden. He needs to own this presidential bid on step up front and centre.


    I'm not saying Trump will "win" the debates technically, but if he goes up against Biden it will be a complete evisceration. Trump will easily come out looking like the winner. His "debating" tactics worked against Hillary and they will be even more effective against Joe. It would be a bloodbath. I'd love to see it happen but I seriously believe it wont, the democrats will not allow Joe to debate Trump. Joe is just not strong enough for him. The democratic candidate will change before the debates.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 24 Fat Lives Matter



    Hopefully will restore funding to the WHO also. He will be busy clearing up Trump's mess.

    The same WHO who defends China? C'mon man!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Team Trump accept the nomination together at the RNC. A massive (socially distanced) crowd cheered them on with chants of "four more years, four more years!" Melania wore green, a symbol of hope & the Presidents speech was full of hope for the future.


    Z9bLUQ7.jpg

    Full video here:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0cAUTIiLAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    I don't think Biden did himself any favors by refusing to have the extra debate that Trump requested. He really should have show his confidence by taking him on an extra time. Instead he showed weakness.





    I'm not saying Trump will "win" the debates technically, but if he goes up against Biden it will be a complete evisceration. Trump will easily come out looking like the winner. His "debating" tactics worked against Hillary and they will be even more effective against Joe. It would be a bloodbath. I'd love to see it happen but I seriously believe it wont, the democrats will not allow Joe to debate Trump. Joe is just not strong enough for him. The democratic candidate will change before the debates.
    "will not allow Joe to debate Trump"


    There's been an awful lot of this nonsense for an awful long time in here. There's literally no evidence whatsoever to back up Joe Biden having lost sense of his faculties, or that there's a serious plan to replace him because Democrats are "terrified" of Biden debating Trump. How is Biden not "strong enough" in your view, Kidchameleon?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Trumps speech at the White House was flat and very low energy.


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