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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We're gonna get an interview with T. Connelly on the 9pm News too. Humility incoming?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Well Brendi, you know what my auld scone of a granny would say?

    'You couldn't be told and here we are'.

    Yes Francie, here we are, and hopefully not for long more..

    This lot fuuherked up big, very big, I’d like a chance to make them pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,652 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Yes Francie, here we are, and hopefully not for long more..

    This lot fuuherked up big, very big, I’d like a chance to make them pay.

    Not going to vote for SF are you?
    This is truly a Renaissance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Bowie wrote: »
    We might be in for an interesting 2020 election part 2.

    I put a hundred quid down on that playing out back in Feb Bow, lookin like I might be cashing in so it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Not going to vote for SF are you?
    This is truly a Renaissance.

    No1 dude.

    Not that I in anyway support their policies.

    But these tools have crucified me for too long.

    Incompetent bunch of cretins.

    Lessons need to be taught, Clear the lot of them out and let’s see what shakes up.

    Incredible incompetence and total fchukkery


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Cost of the latest crisis:

    The Minister For Agriculture
    Leas Ceann Comhairle Of The Seanad
    6 FG Party Whips
    3 FF Party Whips
    FF Vice President
    FF Deputy Leader
    Judiciary Investigating Supreme Court Judge
    Numerous Fulsome and Fulsomer Apologies
    Gardai Investigating Event
    Oireachtas Golf Society Wound Up
    EU Commissioner Resigns
    Brendan Bendar Voting For Sinn Fein


    Fecking 'ell! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Hawthorn Tree


    Cost of the latest crisis:

    The Minister For Agriculture
    Leas Ceann Comhairle Of The Seanad
    6 FG Party Whips
    3 FF Party Whips
    FF Vice President
    FF Deputy Leader
    Judiciary Investigating Supreme Court Judge
    Numerous Fulsome and Fulsomer Apologies
    Gardai Investigating Event
    Oireachtas Golf Society Wound Up
    EU Commissioner Resigns
    Brendan Bendar Voting For Sinn Fein

    Fecking 'ell! :eek:

    BB is a braver man than I :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    BB is a braver man than I :D

    Not going to support them but will give them my #1

    How could any sane person support that bunch of incompetents.Fg/Ff/greens


    Couldn’t believe they could be so stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Leas Ceann Comhairle Of The Seanad
    FF Vice President
    FF Deputy Leader

    Deputy heads must roll!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deputy heads must roll!:pac:

    Bit like the bodyguard diving across the leader to save them.

    Contagion stoppers. They took one for the team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Not going to support them but will give them my #1

    How could any sane person support that bunch of incompetents.Fg/Ff/greens


    Couldn’t believe they could be so stupid.

    Time to head back to Boris land I think:D :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Time to head back to Boris land I think:D :D

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Brendan, you are talking some utter nonsense in here. Pull yourself together man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Somebody just pointed out that it was around this time last week they were all sitting at their meal...it's been some week for the government and it is not by any means all over yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    :confused:

    I sent most my working life there B.
    My kids all live there, we can't and they can't visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Bowie wrote: »
    I'd rather we 'changed the way we do business' than had a slew of resignations for optics.
    If he goes Hogan will find himself on some board shortly with a sweet deal appointment *wink* and he's okay for a pension or two.

    Hogan should be persona non grata. Any board that hires him is showing that the likely lads will always get looked after no matter what. Besides its not like Hogan needs the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Hogan should be persona non grata. Any board that hires him is showing that the likely lads will always get looked after no matter what. Besides its not like Hogan needs the money.

    Do you suggest we boycott any business he sits on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Do you suggest we boycott any business he sits on?
    I know I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    I know I would.

    Do you think it is fair to try to prevent somebody from getting a new job because you don't like them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Do you think it is fair to try to prevent somebody from getting a new job because you don't like them?
    Do you think he deserves these kinds of jobs? I don't and I am sure others will agree with me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Do you think he deserves these kinds of jobs? I don't and I am sure others will agree with me.

    I mean, I don't think it is any of our business what jobs he gets, unless they are public jobs, then as taxpayers we can be pissed but a private individual working for a business. Who am I to say what he deserves, can he do the job? If they hire him it's their choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I mean, I don't think it is any of our business what jobs he gets, unless they are public jobs, then as taxpayers we can be pissed but a private individual working for a business. Who am I to say what he deserves, can he do the job? If they hire him it's their choice.

    The likes of Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson are beating away sponsorships and job offers I imagine.

    And no, I'm not equating what Hogan has done with either of them two, I'm just pointing out that no matter how talented you are in whatever area of the private world, if there is a stigma attached to your reputation, you might find it hard to get work.

    The way I see things - FG haven't expelled him yet despite Leo's bravado, and with all the support he's been receiving from (what appear to be) FG supporters, so they should give him a chance to contest an election here somewhere and maybe aim for TD or ministerial positions again..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    McMurphy wrote: »
    The likes of Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson are beating away sponsorships and job offers I imagine.

    And no, I'm not equating what Hogan has done with either of them two, I'm just pointing out that no matter how talented you are in whatever area of the private world, if there is a stigma attached to your reputation, you might find it hard to get work.

    The way I see things - FG haven't expelled him yet despite Leo's bravado, and with all the support he's been receiving from (what appear to be) FG supporters, so they should give him a chance to contest an election here somewhere and maybe aim for TD or ministerial positions again..

    He could join Sinn Fein!
    They would have gotten him off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    He could join Sinn Fein!
    They would have gotten him off.

    SF again? It's beginning to become a bit of a recurring theme from you Bishop, stock response kind of thing?

    I think you're just bring purposely naive here though, tell me, do you think big Philos political outlook on life would be compatible with Sinn Feins? And if not what's the point in even mentioning them?

    Phil fell on his sword it would seem, I wonder who's next?

    I'm sure there's pun writers lining up witty retorts now in the anticipation that the greens will be calling on the wolf to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    McMurphy wrote: »
    SF again? It's beginning to become a bit of a recurring theme from you Bishop, stock response kind of thing?

    I think you're just bring purposely naive here though, tell me, do you think big Philos political outlook on life would be compatible with Sinn Feins? And if not what's the point in even mentioning them?

    Phil fell on his sword it would seem, I wonder who's next?

    I'm sure there's pun writers lining up witty retorts now in the anticipation that the greens will be calling on the wolf to go.

    Not one bit more than mentioning Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson.
    So far as I know they were never involved in Irish politics, nor is big Phil accused with any type of crime that either was involved in.

    There's a few in SF were allegedly involved in killing women, so maybe the comparison with OJ sits in there.
    After that it seems to have you rattled everytime SF is mentioned, take a chill pill, it was just sarcasm, maybe poor sarcasm, but your goat got out over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Not one bit more than mentioning Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson.
    So far as I know they were never involved in Irish politics, nor is big Phil accused with any type of crime that either was involved in.

    But I gave a full explanation as to why they got a mention.....
    And no, I'm not equating what Hogan has done with either of them two, I'm just pointing out that no matter how talented you are in whatever area of the private world, if there is a stigma attached to your reputation, you might find it hard to get work

    Maria Bailey as a CEO of an insurance company? Health and safety chief inspector?
    There's a few in SF were allegedly involved in killing women, so maybe the comparison with OJ sits in there.
    After that it seems to have you rattled everytime SF is mentioned, take a chill pill, it was just sarcasm, maybe poor sarcasm, but your goat got out over it.

    I got the sarcasm bishop, I got it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Isn't the appointment of the new commissioner in the gift of Michael Martin?

    Why are most of the replacements being mention FG.

    Surely FF are not gonna allow that huge signal of who is wearing the trousers in the coalition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    McMurphy wrote: »
    The likes of Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson are beating away sponsorships and job offers I imagine.

    And no, I'm not equating what Hogan has done with either of them two, I'm just pointing out that no matter how talented you are in whatever area of the private world, if there is a stigma attached to your reputation, you might find it hard to get work.


    This is a different type of stigma.



    For most politicians the only thing Hogan did wrong was getting caught. "One rule for me another for thee" is the closest thing to a shared principle in our political class.



    Anyone hiring him will be hiring him to buy access and influence with that political class, here and in Europe; they couldn't care less about what he's done. The world is so full of big events at the moment that after a few months the bad smell on him will have dissipated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    McMurphy wrote: »
    The likes of Gary Glitter and OJ Simpson are beating away sponsorships and job offers I imagine.

    And no, I'm not equating what Hogan has done with either of them two, I'm just pointing out that no matter how talented you are in whatever area of the private world, if there is a stigma attached to your reputation, you might find it hard to get work.

    The way I see things - FG haven't expelled him yet despite Leo's bravado, and with all the support he's been receiving from (what appear to be) FG supporters, so they should give him a chance to contest an election here somewhere and maybe aim for TD or ministerial positions again..

    So you are not equating but you are comparing, otherwise why mention their names? They were criminals he is not, is a good starting point. Most businesses would not hire someone with a serious criminal record but again it's none of our business what a private company might do for hiring. In terms of competency, you might be actually giving phil an over exuberant compliment, comparing him to OJ Simpson but maybe, I have no idea if he was good or bad at his job.

    I think it's unlikely he would continue in politics, there isn't much left for him to do beyond taoiseach/tanaiste and that is unrealistic. Not every view point you hear has to be motivated by political affiliation - your comment regarding his support. I'm not sure why you even mention it. In fact I would support anyone from any party who is a private citizen without any criminal past to get a job of their choice, I think to do otherwise would be discrimination, I believe all people have a right to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    So you are not equating but you are comparing, otherwise why mention their names? They were criminals he is not, is a good starting point. Most businesses would not hire someone with a serious criminal record but again it's none of our business what a private company might do for hiring. In terms of competency, you might be actually giving phil an over exuberant compliment, comparing him to OJ Simpson but maybe, I have no idea if he was good or bad at his job.

    I'm not saying he shouldn't be employed by a private company, none of our business whatsoever, I just pointed out that there may be some stigma attached to him - you said "if they hire him, it's their choice" I agree, but I gave my reasoning for why some companies might possibly decide to keep away.
    I think it's unlikely he would continue in politics, there isn't much left for him to do beyond taoiseach/tanaiste and that is unrealistic. Not every view point you hear has to be motivated by political affiliation - your comment regarding his support. I'm not sure why you even mention it. In fact I would support anyone from any party who is a private citizen without any criminal past to get a job of their choice, I think to do otherwise would be discrimination, I believe all people have a right to work.

    I mentioned him standing for an election here again because he still seems to be enjoying support from certain cohort of posters on these threads, who appear to be upset he's resigned, and also because he's not yet been (to the best of my knowledge) expelled from the party.

    Ie, if all else fails, he could consider a public representative life again?


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