Things people go out of their way not to pay for

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

Sport TV subs

I don't pay for one myself, but watch every game

some people are simply unaware of the technology available to do so, or how to do it, some are also happy to pay for it, for more of a guarantee and support of service

true-or-false wrote: »

Plus, in a current account they're not simply holding onto it for you. They're facilitating transactions, your debit cards, direct debits and standing orders, providing you with internet banking etc.

And also want to charge you for the transactions you make.

Errashareesh wrote: »

Re bank charges:

This'll probably be met with "you big capitalist corporate loving whatnot" (even though I'm nothing of the sort) but I genuinely don't understand when people take issue with it.

If a service is provided, you pay for it. It's that simple. Why should a service be free?

The banks are not just the senior executives. They are the customer service advisors and sales agents on basic wages.

banking business model has changed dramatically over the decades, it is now highly dangerous and parasitic, it gives little back, but extracts an astonishing level of wealth from society

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I don't think it's been mentioned but a lot of people hate paying bin charges. It's a service that you need, so why wouldn't you pay for it?!? That's why there's so much fly-tipping, and people stuffing their household rubbish into public bins.

but we rarely discuss the negative aspects of privatizing our waste management systems, which plays a part in negative behaviors

munsterdevil wrote: »

TV License, it's a mnority, but sizable minority

I think the TV license fee is a ludicrous tax that we have to pay. RTE constantly run repeat tv programmes, they are completely & totally biased with their news media that's laughable, they should be accruing funding from their advertising/sponsors or the cable companies that most people subscribe too (ie, VirginMedia, Sky), and many people don't even watch RTE or have regular tv anymore (ie, Netflix and Prime subscriptions that they pay for). The money that is completely wasted in RTE is obscene and yet we are forced to pay this tax regardless.

Deleted User wrote: »

Modern societies rely entirely on the banking system and the complexities in it.

oh theres no question, our banking systems are critical, but their activities should complement societies needs, but a large proportion of these activities are in fact counter active to our needs, and are now highly dangerous, as we ve recently discovered, but disturbingly, we ve decided to ignore this

Errashareesh wrote: »

Yeah I'm thinking the idiot who fires a mattress into a field isn't concerned whether waste collection is privatised or not.

Abdication of personal responsibility is a big problem on these isles.

In Germanic societies people recognise that that's what they're part of - a society - and pull together (not saying they're perfect societies either - none are).

maybe countries such as germany have better functioning critical public services than our own, which encourages those citizens to behave more so towards the collective

Its not free but our demand for cheap food is a really bad policy. Meat is being sold at less than the cost of production as supermarkets fight for market share. The result is bad production practices. I have argued with people who thought a piece of salmon was expensive until I pointed out fishermen have to go out, often in bad weather, to catch them.

Errashareesh wrote: »

Or maybe their services are better BECAUSE people recognise they're part of a society.

It's not great to be responding to the issue of fly tipping with "well the services need improvement/shouldn't be privatised". The fly tipper is the one at fault, nobody else.

privatization is seen as the most efficient way of running critical societal services, sometimes its just not, as its inefficiencies out-ways the inefficiencies of alternative publicly run services, sometimes, and you will find, some of the most common default positions of such failures is 'personal responsibility', particularly from those that believe in these privatization approaches, when the reality is in fact far more complex