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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #3482
    jamule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

    Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

    He is fooked then, the guy he is up against is so honest and never lies and definetely never hires actual con men.


  • #3483
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,262 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Funny, cause that's exactly how I'd describe Joe Biden, given that he has a proven history of trying to con people into seeing him as something he is not and never was. He's just using the same tactics now that he used when he ran for president the first time, saying what he knows people want to hear. That's all he has and all he'll ever have. The chap's been in politics for over 40 years and shown time and again that he is all talk.

    Couple of examples of how easily this man will lie:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1PuAbxTW8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJMF7mflGE

    Speaking of lies, have you got the dates of those images you posted claiming Biden was out and about shaking hands with people without a mask?


  • #3484
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    I for one welcome the return of Outlaw Petezagate icon14.png


  • #3485
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    I for one welcome the return of Outlaw Petezagate icon14.png

    LOL you think they went away?


  • #3486
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...


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  • #3487
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

    He could easily put his hands up and admit that he was duped by magaWWG1WGA69StormJesus again and just move on.

    Is that deceptive post still there? Or did it get updated with an admission that at least one picture existed pre-lockdown? Any attempt at correcting the error?

    That's the difference between an honest mistake and lying. Everyone makes mistakes and endeavour to correct them. A liar on the other hand wants the misinformation to remain. That's why actual news publications issue retractions and corrections while misinformation makes no such attempt.


  • #3488
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

    And then following up with a whataboutism, that's worth about two fingers in the drinking game or do we skull?


  • #3489
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

    And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.


  • #3490
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.

    It's directly from the playbook
    Steve Bannon, the former head of Breitbart News and chief strategist for Donald Trump. “The Democrats don’t matter,” Bannon reportedly said in 2018. “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with sh!t.”

    This idea isn’t new, but Bannon articulated it about as well as anyone can. The press ideally should sift fact from fiction and give the public the information it needs to make enlightened political choices. If you short-circuit that process by saturating the ecosystem with misinformation and overwhelm the media’s ability to mediate, then you can disrupt the democratic process.


  • #3491
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,714 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And never will, They just ignore any questions knowing eventually people will forget as the thread moves on.

    Yeah. Wait in the shadows until someone says something about Trump to which they can reply with their pre-prepared collection of cherrypicked rebuttal points (like if you call Trump a racist and they post clips of Trump praising random black people). Then disappear again when challenged on something they don't have pre-prepared rebuttals for.


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  • #3492
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Pete is only interested in the TRUTH iirc


  • #3493
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,935 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Donald trump being honest for once
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7641233/Donald-Trump-makes-awkward-joke-Melania-wouldnt-cry-shot.html
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  • #3494
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Biden interview on ABC. He answered questions and even follow up questions. He didn't drool all over the place or break down into a senile rant. Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks. Kind of refreshing to be honest and very disappointing for the Trumpers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMVmuRnaik


  • #3495
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks.

    lol - logical?? :p

    It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:
    "I'm also someone who has..."

    ..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:



  • #3496
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    lol - logical?? :p

    It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



    ..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

    Well as a Trumpist you'd know all about softball interviews. :D I know it's weird for you to watch a politician answering questions and not ranting and raving about sharks and fake news and conspiracy theories and about person, woman, man, camera, tv. I get that. It'll take time to get used to it again.


  • #3497
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout.
    Softball interview, you say?
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  • #3498
    jamule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Biden interview on ABC. He answered questions and even follow up questions. He didn't drool all over the place or break down into a senile rant. Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks. Kind of refreshing to be honest and very disappointing for the Trumpers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMVmuRnaik

    CNN -

    Orange Disorderists devastated as Biden makes it through an interview. However in a glimmer of hope trump delusionist Pete the outlaw points out he almost lied or stuttered after 10mins, so he defintely going senile.


  • #3499
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,071 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    lol - logical?? :p

    It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



    ..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

    Wait, hold on. So what you are saying is that mid-way through an interview, in fact, midway through an answer, Biden was thinking ahead of what he was about to say, thought it might not be the right thing to say, so changed his mind and continued on with a different answer.

    How the hell did a dementia suffering liar manage to do that?

    And you have created an entirely made up idea of what you think Biden was about to say. You have no idea what he was going to say, but you made it up.


  • #3500
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,462 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



    ..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

    So because Biden didn't breakdown into a drooling mess like the Dear Leader told you he would, you're now at the point where a cough and a made up scenario in your head of what Biden "might" have said is the only thing you can takeaway from that interview! :pac:


  • #3501
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pete not addressing the fact he posted images of Joe Biden and claimed they happened after the pandemic. Which was a lie...

    You might not have prior experience of that poster, but he never acknowledges anything. He generally just dumps a load of nonsense into these threads and hits the minty highway for a while - then, rinse and repeat. It's been happening for months. Just wanted to give you a heads up.


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  • #3502
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    lol - logical?? :p

    It was a softball interview where most of the questions were posed to help him and even then the guy was talking nonsense throughout. Most notably when at 11m50s he said:



    ..and then nervously coughed and said something else. My guess is that he was about to lie again about his role in the civil rights movement and wisely changed his mind:

    Hey Pete, whats your thoughts on this "softball" question and the reply?

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/26/trump-second-term-response-fox-town-hall-vpx.cnn


  • #3503
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I see we’re at the stage where Biden is facing claims of what he was going to say, but didn’t actually say.


  • #3504
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Biden interview on ABC. He answered questions and even follow up questions. He didn't drool all over the place or break down into a senile rant. Just a politician answering political questions in a coherent and logical manner. No rants about mosquitoes or sharks. Kind of refreshing to be honest and very disappointing for the Trumpers:


    On the contrary, its hilarious that "Bidener's" get a kick out of him talking coherently for more than two minutes. It says it all really.


  • #3505
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,101 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    On the contrary, its hilarious that "Bidener's" get a kick out of him talking coherently for more than two minutes. It says it all really.

    Well some would claim Biden can't manage 5 seconds of coherence when compared to their lord and saviour DonDon.


  • #3506
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    On the contrary, its hilarious that "Bidener's" get a kick out of him talking coherently for more than two minutes. It says it all really.

    Yes, Trump has lowered expectations so much, it's backfired spectacularly.


  • #3507
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Speaking as a recent immigrant, I had to prove financial independence in my permanent resident application, so what is Trump proposing here that doesn't already exist?

    For example:
    https://dvlottery.me/blog/1600-financial_independence_green_card


  • #3508
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    On the contrary, its hilarious that "Bidener's" get a kick out of him talking coherently for more than two minutes. It says it all really.

    It does 'cos Trump can't. I like seals they are way better than sharks


  • #3509
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    It does 'cos Trump can't. I like seals they are way better than sharks


    OK look, this is getting embarrassing at this stage. People in general don't care about his shark speech. Only people who clutch at straws to attack him care.





  • #3510
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    On the contrary, its hilarious that "Bidener's" get a kick out of him talking coherently for more than two minutes. It says it all really.

    No one is "getting a kick" out of anything.

    He is behaving exactly as was expected of him, well was expected by everyone other than the Trump zealots who continuously claimed Biden has dementia.

    It is hilarious to see them now though, Biden is talking like a seasoned politician, being presidential and basically showing the electorate exactly how a president should be.


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  • #3511
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    OK look, this is getting embarrassing at this stage. People in general don't care about his shark speech. Only people who clutch at straws to attack him care.


    You're right, the overall failure to do anything as President and only managing to be divisive plus the two hundred thousand plus deaths are more likely to weigh on voter's minds.

    Out of interest, do you think Trump will flip states he didn't win previously? His path to victory is pretty difficult when Biden is looking incredibly likely to flip states and also pick up the same states as 2016.


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