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Tipping when eating out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    I'll leave a tip if I get a free brandy at the end of the meal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,195 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I eat out in the same place about 2-3 times a month in the city, on my day off a Monday, maybe more often. Staff, service and food is first class. Has been for the 8 years or so I’ve been going there, in fact it’s most if not all staff are there over 5 years.... extremely attentive, efficient, friendly, genuine and at the same time not intrusive.... if Im alone and spend 21 euros there as is my usual solo bill I generally leave 4 euros, 5 if no change, don’t see it as a biggie, service is REALLY good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I would buy you something sophisticated and rich, probably chocolate coated. If I really liked you it would be posh chocolates all the way, but I would make it out like it was no biggie, I would hate to embarrass you or come on too heavy.

    God no, I hate posh chocolates. Notions. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Strumms wrote: »
    I eat out in the same place about 2-3 times a month in the city, on my day off a Monday, maybe more often. Staff, service and food is first class. Has been for the 8 years or so I’ve been going there, in fact it’s most if not all staff are there over 5 years.... extremely attentive, efficient, friendly, genuine and at the same time not intrusive.... if Im alone and spend 21 euros there as is my usual solo bill I generally leave 4 euros, 5 if no change, don’t see it as a biggie, service is REALLY good.

    This I can understand. Tipping because it's a good service or people going out of their way etc. I'm slightly irked by the ones who tip just because they perceive that someone is less well off. Oh we must tip the poor receptionist and the cleaner because they are on sh*t money. Don't tip the chef, he/ she earns more. Is it just pity tipping? Is it a way to make themselves feel superior? I don't know. Tip for good service, like you said, not just because someone is on a lower wage.


  • Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We should get a thread going to see if women are considered monsters for tipping multiple people while they're getting their hair done.

    People tip. That's it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Antares35 wrote: »
    This I can understand. Tipping because it's a good service or people going out of their way etc. I'm slightly irked by the ones who tip just because they perceive that someone is less well off. Oh we must tip the poor receptionist and the cleaner because they are on sh*t money. Don't tip the chef, he/ she earns more. Is it just pity tipping? Is it a way to make themselves feel superior? I don't know. Tip for good service, like you said, not just because someone is on a lower wage.

    I never got tipped in the kitchen. I was promised I would be up to 100 a week which never transpired, the waiting staff took all the tips.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Antares35 wrote: »
    God no, I hate posh chocolates. Notions. :)

    Well that is a shame.

    Probably settle for those jellies which have a plethora of unique and interesting flavours.

    Only in the hope that you are something similar. I already know you're fussy, I like that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Greta_Funberg


    scudzilla wrote: »
    A few years back 4 of us went to , i think it was that Greek Restaurant in Malahide, bastards charged us 15% service charge as was a table of 4.

    Never ever went back and told everyone i knew about them, guess they lost a lot of business that night.

    I don't get it, why a service charge on tables of 4 or more

    Went to a place with the missus last year that automatically added a 5% "gratuity" charge to the bill, that you ask to remove... This was for a lunch. Nothing fancy. Of course I didn't pay it, never went back and was happy to see it's closed up (pre-covid).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I never got tipped in the kitchen. I was promised I would be up to 100 a week which never transpired, the waiting staff took all the tips.

    Did you shout at them from time to time, curse and swear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Well that is a shame.

    Probably settle for those jellies which have a plethora of unique and interesting flavours.

    Only in the hope that you are something similar. I already know you're fussy, I like that too.

    Thankfully I don't work in a job that necessitates tipping so you'll have to keep the jellies for someone else :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Went to a place with the missus last year that automatically added a 5% "gratuity" charge to the bill, that you ask to remove... This was for a lunch. Nothing fancy. Of course I didn't pay it, never went back and was happy to see it's closed up (pre-covid).

    Inertia tipping. Probably hoping most people would be too embarrassed to have it removed I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Did you shout at them from time to time, curse and swear?

    Not at all. I'm a quiet chef. It's the men that do the shouting. Women just put up with the constant stream of sexual jokes. But none of the kitchen got tips, not just me. The front of house got it all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Not at all. I'm a quiet chef. It's the men that do the shouting. Women just put up with the constant stream of sexual jokes. But none of the kitchen got tips, not just me. The front of house got it all.

    Ok, you probably didn't shout loud enough so. You really need to be putting the fear of god into them. Politeness first, but when that stops working you need to kick off bigtime, it is all about respect really.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Thankfully I don't work in a job that necessitates tipping so you'll have to keep the jellies for someone else :)

    You are just playing hard to get now, you big tease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Interesting to contrast this thread with the one on being middle class.

    If you tip people, I can assure you, you aren't middle class. A vulgar practice with a stench of working class "new money".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Interesting to contrast this thread with the one on being middle class.

    If you tip people, I can assure you, you aren't middle class. A vulgar practice with a stench of working class "new money".

    FFS, you're honestly not joking. So you're saying that nobody middle class tips. That's an untruth. Most people tip without even thinking how much to tip & how good or bad the service was. It's become ingrained in people


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Interesting to contrast this thread with the one on being middle class.

    If you tip people, I can assure you, you aren't middle class. A vulgar practice with a stench of working class "new money".

    No, I massively disagree. It just means you are mean.

    I am middle class, but I am not mean. So I tip when I like, there is nothing trashy about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭dinneenp




  • Posts: 447 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think tipping threads are second only to threads where Guinness snobs who can't see the marketing bullsh!t they have swallowed is just that (without a hint of self awareness) moan about craft beer snobs
    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    It just means you are mean

    No it doesn't

    Take two scenarios:

    1. person eats out alone regularly, ignores his widowed mother at home and never takes her out despite knowing she's lonely and would really appreciate being taken out. Leaves a tip
    2. this person's brother takes his mother to a nice restaurant to spoil her in a place she could never afford. She really appreciates the effort. However he doesn't leave a tip

    Some people on the thread are saying 1. isn't mean/mangy/stingy but 2 is. And before anyone says nobody is saying that look back at how many posts bluntly state "no tip => mean".

    Leaving a tip doesn't make you not mean and vice versa

    In any case if you want to tip work away, if you you don't don't. Like guinness vs craft beer - drink whatever you like the taste of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I tip 10% in Ireland and 20% in the US.

    Differences being in the US their 'wage' will be a lot less. Also, in the US I find that they go out of their way to be attentive and anticipate the customer's needs. Also nothing is a problem - no matter how awkward the customer is - separate cheques? Sure, no problem!

    I won't tip here if the service is not good enough or if there is any kind of service charge pre-added to the bill.

    Spent the last week holidaying in Ireland so a lot of eating out.
    Didn't tip twice due to bad service.
    1st time she was just an unaware gobsh1te - tapped the card and walked out.
    2nd time we called the manager and told her why we would not be tipping so that the server might learn from how they treated us.

    I usually tip by adding it to the bill and then pay by card - hardly ever use cash these days.

    My wife goes mad if, when you tell them to add a tip to the bill, they don't say thank you...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    They're unlikely to see the tip added to the bill I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,195 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Antares35 wrote: »
    God no, I hate posh chocolates. Notions. :)
    Antares35 wrote: »
    This I can understand. Tipping because it's a good service or people going out of their way etc. I'm slightly irked by the ones who tip just because they perceive that someone is less well off. Oh we must tip the poor receptionist and the cleaner because they are on sh*t money. Don't tip the chef, he/ she earns more. Is it just pity tipping? Is it a way to make themselves feel superior? I don't know. Tip for good service, like you said, not just because someone is on a lower wage.

    Yep, same here. You don’t know anybody’s circumstances. I just tip on receipt of good service, on receipt of bad I don’t... person waiting my table might have 80 grand in the joint bank account with their other half , I’m still tipping.


  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was in Japan last year, there tipping is considered rude as the customer is implying that the person who serves them has not enough money. As someone who always tips, I found it strange initially that they insisted that I take my change, then a Japanese explained their cultural take on charity.

    I would always tip, in most cases the staff are earning minimum wage, or are students/part timers. I wouldn’t expect someone who can’t afford to tip to do so, but I would think you are a tight ass if you could and didn’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    Dav010 wrote: »
    I would always tip, in most cases the staff are earning minimum wage, or are students/part timers. I wouldn’t expect someone who can’t afford to tip to do so, but I would think you are a tight ass if you could and didn’t.

    I suppose you do the same thing in petrol stations, supermarkets and McDonalds; the people working there generally make somewhere around minimum wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    I never got tipped in the kitchen. I was promised I would be up to 100 a week which never transpired, the waiting staff took all the tips.

    That's down to poor management IMO.

    I'm a restaurant and bar manager and make sure everyone gets their fair share. Tips are split between lunch and dinner service every day and are pooled until the end of the week. Every member of staff working gets accounted for kitchen staff and KPs included.

    It doesn't sit right with me that chefs and KPs wouldn't get a share when they bust their bollocks to make sure service runs smoothly.


  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    I suppose you do the same thing in petrol stations, supermarkets and McDonalds; the people working there generally make somewhere around minimum wage.

    Not in convenience/fast food stores, I’m there only for a few seconds.


  • Posts: 447 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I stop random people on the street and ask them how much they earn. If they say "minimum wage" I throw them a 20

    I often see people on the street not doing this, stingy cunts


  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CarProblem wrote: »
    I stop random people on the street and ask them how much they earn. If they say "minimum wage" I throw them a 20

    I often see people on the street not doing this, stingy cunts

    Creepy. Do many tell you to F**k off and mind your own bees wax, or do they just take the money?


  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dinneenp wrote: »

    Imagine that ever coming to Ireland, getting scolded for not tipping. It happens in America where i'm sure tipping initially started as a way to recognise great service then as the years progressed on to being expected and eventually through to getting a mini tantrum for not tipping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    Dav010 wrote: »
    Not in convenience/fast food stores, I’m there only for a few seconds.

    You don't??

    Because I think that anyone who could afford to tip any of these workers, but didn't, is a tight ass.


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