Tipping when eating out.

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 10:45AM

I tip all the time. I give barmen I like a few quid at christmas and buy them bickies or chocolates etc.

People cranking about restaurants not paying proper wages are mean. The concept that you are changing things up or challenging the norm by not tipping is garbage, you are simply being mean. Proprietors don't give a shight if you tip or not, more the reason to tip if you ask me. If you want to snub a greedy restauranteur then don't turn up or go somewhere that is better value.

But tip, tip waiters, tip a taxi driver if he gets you home quickly and doesn't find every red light he can at 4 in the morning, tip the food delivery guy as well. These workers need the extra few bob, don't be mean.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 10:56AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

It's a strange divide. A cleaner has a way worse job and effects you way more . A bad cleaner is way worse than a bad waiter. We should tip cleaner was sooner than waiters

I think it's just the convention to tip certain jobs and not tip other jobs. The reasons are created afterwards to justify the tip and to create the jeopardy that you're "mangy" if you don't tip. But examples like this show that peope just tip because of convention, not because they're restaurant management experts

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 10:59AM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I tip all the time. I give barmen I like a few quid at christmas and buy them bickies or chocolates etc.

People cranking about restaurants not paying proper wages are mean. The concept that you are changing things up or challenging the norm by not tipping is garbage, you are simply being mean. Proprietors don't give a shight if you tip or not, more the reason to tip if you ask me. If you want to snub a greedy restauranteur then don't turn up or go somewhere that is better value.

But tip, tip waiters, tip a taxi driver if he gets you home quickly and doesn't find every red light he can at 4 in the morning, tip the food delivery guy as well. These workers need the extra few bob, don't be mean.

So if you tip "all the time" and you're not mean, do you tip cleaners, road sweepers and receptionists and anyone else who might need the extra few bob?

hynesie08 · 24-08-2020 02:01PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

It's a strange divide. A cleaner has a way worse job and effects you way more . A bad cleaner is way worse than a bad waiter. We should tip cleaner was sooner than waiters

But you're usually directly hiring the cleaner, either in house or through an agency, so when they are there you are paying 100% of their wage.

I would always leave a few quid for the cleaners on the nightstand if I stayed in a hotel as well.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 02:11PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

But you're usually directly hiring the cleaner, either in house or through an agency, so when they are there you are paying 100% of their wage.

I would always leave a few quid for the cleaners on the nightstand if I stayed in a hotel as well.

Most cleaners who's service I benefit from are not employed by me (I don't have a cleaner in the house). So how to you tip the cleaners in the office, the hospital, the pub or restaurant?

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 02:19PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

So if you tip "all the time" and you're not mean, do you tip cleaners, road sweepers and receptionists and anyone else who might need the extra few bob?

I give the office cleaner a pressie at Christmas and sometimes cash. Except for one cleaner who I didn't like.

I don't tip road sweepers, they use machines. I nod and smile though, I am good like that.

Why would I tip a receptionist?

I bought a receptionist I fancied some chocolates one time, but that was because I wanted to ride her, not because I felt she was doing a good job or anything. She was very "receptive" with me and I brought her for a few meals and had some great sex, she then told me she had a boyfriend for 3 years and that maybe we should " cool things down " , they are out there.

hynesie08 · 24-08-2020 02:20PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Most cleaners who's service I benefit from are not employed by me (I don't have a cleaner in the house). So how to you tip the cleaners in the office, the hospital, the pub or restaurant?

I would see the office cleaners as my Co workers, I wouldn't tip finance either for approving my paycheck

The hospital is tricky I'll give you that, not a situation I've encountered.

The pub or resteraunt? Same way I tip a server or bar staff "that's for you, thanks very much"

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 02:22PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Most cleaners who's service I benefit from are not employed by me (I don't have a cleaner in the house). So how to you tip the cleaners in the office, the hospital, the pub or restaurant?

Pull the cleaner to one side on Christmas week and giver her a sealed envelope and smile and say thanks for all their hard work during the year. If it was only a tenner they would be delighted, I have given 50 in the past. Don't let them open it in front of you.

Most pubs and restaurants are "cleaned" by bar and waiting staff.

BorneTobyWilde · 24-08-2020 02:32PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZIoWzValf8

Seems the better looking and more attractive waitress will get more tips. And it's the reality, I bet guys here tips hot waitresses far more.

1990sman · 24-08-2020 02:43PM

here's a tip. dont eat with your mouth full and keep a brolly nearby as it will probably rain. helen hunt is waiting in cotton.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 02:45PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I give the office cleaner a pressie at Christmas and sometimes cash. Except for one cleaner who I didn't like.

I don't tip road sweepers, they use machines. I nod and smile though, I am good like that.

Why would I tip a receptionist?

Why would you tip a receptionist? For the same reasons you said you "always tip", because you're "not mean" and receptionists are probably on low wages and "could use the few bob". Surely you tip the

What as using machines got to do with it? Don't cleaners use tools like hoovers and washing machines? The rules are being invented pretty quickly when you actually get answers for why people tip. The machines rule is a new addition. Who you tip and who you don't tip is pretty random, I'm sure you'll agree.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 02:48PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

I would see the office cleaners as my Co workers, I wouldn't tip finance either for approving my paycheck

The hospital is tricky I'll give you that, not a situation I've encountered.

The pub or resteraunt? Same way I tip a server or bar staff "that's for you, thanks very much"

Are you honestly saying you tip the cleaners in pubs and restaurants?

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 02:55PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Why would you tip a receptionist? For the same reasons you said you "always tip", because you're "not mean" and receptionists are probably on low wages and "could use the few bob". Surely you tip the

What as using machines got to do with it? Don't cleaners use tools like hoovers and washing machines? The rules are being invented pretty quickly when you actually get answers for why people tip. The machines rule is a new addition. Who you tip and who you don't tip is pretty random, I'm sure you'll agree.

If I tip the person using the machine then I would have to tip the machine as well. Makes sense no? I mean the machine has feelings too?

I don't tip receptionists... I might ride them if I find them attractive, but we have been through this already though.

hynesie08 · 24-08-2020 02:56PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Are you honestly saying you tip the cleaners in pubs and restaurants?

The cleaners are usually the bar staff so yes.

Was in a place a few weeks ago who had a dedicated table sprayer, literally her only job was to spray down tables and clean them, she was like a ninja, every time our glasses were taken away, spray, meal finished and plates cleared, spray. Honestly if you take that much pride in a relatively menial job, I'm happy to throw you a few quid.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 03:04PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

If I tip the person using the machine then I would have to tip the machine as well. Makes sense no? I mean the machine has feelings too?

I don't tip receptionists...

I'm not arguing to tip the machine. you're the only one who has suggested a rule around tipping and using machinery. What about the street sweepers who don't use machines and use a brush? What if the cleaner uses machines like a hoover and a washing machine? You've been "mean" by your own standards towards all these people all this time, and never even known it.

The I presume you tip the dedicated cleaners in hospitals and public places because, as you pointed out earlier, you "always tip" and cleaners "could use the few extra bob". Or do you mean you tip when convention tells you to tip and don't tip when convention doesn't tell you to tip, and then make up rules like whether they use machinery or not because it obviously "makes no sense"

El_Duderino 09 · 24-08-2020 03:08PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

The cleaners are usually the bar staff so yes.

Was in a place a few weeks ago who had a dedicated table sprayer, literally her only job was to spray down tables and clean them, she was like a ninja, every time our glasses were taken away, spray, meal finished and plates cleared, spray. Honestly if you take that much pride in a relatively menial job, I'm happy to throw you a few quid.

And when the cleaners aren't the bar staff or waiters, what do you do then? Barstaff and waiters don't always clean (except cleaning up after service). Lots of businesses have cleaners. Tipping one person because you like the job done by someone else, random or what?

LawBoy2018 · 24-08-2020 03:19PM

In the restaurant my brother works in, 40% of tips are paid to the chefs as a 'bonus'. The rest is divided between the waiters/bar staff. It's probably a controversial thing to say, but I don't think the chefs should receive any of the tips left by customers unless the customers are notified as to how their will money is distributed. They're already in receipt a far more attractive salary than the servers who are on minimum wage and often precarious '0 hour' contracts.

Naos · 24-08-2020 03:26PM

poisonated wrote: »

If someone is treating me out(which is obviously very nice of them) I always feel guilty when they do not tip. Sometimes I would give them a tip but that’s probably a social faux pas is it?

I would say it is...

smurfjed · 24-08-2020 05:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And what was described earlier re the Oktoberfest was being ignored if not tipped. I would not be happy at that. That's not tipping for good service. That's the bartender not doing their job and forcing people to tip them if they want a drink.

The servers are actually self-employed, they buy the beer from the bar and then sell it to you, so its in their interest to get you to tip for each beer and to keep you happy with quick service.

rob316 · 24-08-2020 05:53PM

I tip the DPD driver in work at christmas if its the same driver all year round (ours has been the same for about 5 years). €25 in an envelope, just say buy yourself a pint. Its the best 25 quid I spend, he is really helpful with our inbound and outbound deliveries. Leaves near me and has often dropped things into the house at the weekend if hes working, very handy.

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 05:59PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'm not arguing to tip the machine. you're the only one who has suggested a rule around tipping and using machinery. What about the street sweepers who don't use machines and use a brush? What if the cleaner uses machines like a hoover and a washing machine? You've been "mean" by your own standards towards all these people all this time, and never even known it.

The I presume you tip the dedicated cleaners in hospitals and public places because, as you pointed out earlier, you "always tip" and cleaners "could use the few extra bob". Or do you mean you tip when convention tells you to tip and don't tip when convention doesn't tell you to tip, and then make up rules like whether they use machinery or not because it obviously "makes no sense"

I am glad you brought such cleaners up, I would hate to feel like they are being overlooked. If you are talking about the street cleaners who push a big trolley with a pan and brush, I actually don't tip them, because they are council workers who get an annual wage increment and are entitled to a pension after 40 years service. In short they phuck right off if they think I am tipping them, they get paid well enough, machine or no machine. You will be asking me if I tip a gang of tea drinkers hanging around a hole in the road next ( I don't btw ).

If I tip a receptionist that I am hoping to ride at some stage in the future I find it sets a bad parameter between us and I don't want such pretensions getting in the way of future chemistry, essential when it comes to riding secretaries, particularly young ones in their 20's. Keep it simple there is my best advice. Just buy her shight like flowers or chocolates, it works for me.

Alejandro68 · 24-08-2020 06:04PM

I work in two different restaurants,and from my observations.If you want to tip the waitstaff do it directly to them and discreetly.If you give it to the cashier or the manager,they only pocket it.A few times a diner paid and the manager cashed it out an they gave a tip of 5 and sometimes 10 euros to the waitstaff.After they left in his pocket it went.

He has been called on it loads of times but always denies it or states it was for him they tipped.Once the patrons leave,how can you prove it?

Antares35 · 24-08-2020 07:00PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I tip all the time. I give barmen I like a few quid at christmas and buy them bickies or chocolates etc.

People cranking about restaurants not paying proper wages are mean. The concept that you are changing things up or challenging the norm by not tipping is garbage, you are simply being mean. Proprietors don't give a shight if you tip or not, more the reason to tip if you ask me. If you want to snub a greedy restauranteur then don't turn up or go somewhere that is better value.

But tip, tip waiters, tip a taxi driver if he gets you home quickly and doesn't find every red light he can at 4 in the morning, tip the food delivery guy as well. These workers need the extra few bob, don't be mean.

Bickies?

pickarooney · 24-08-2020 07:04PM

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

I’m not surprised to see the usual sexist “pig” remarks about some of the female waiting staff.

I always tip when I eat in a nice restaurant, usually around 15-20%. A little bit more if our server is a waitress rather than a waiter. It’s my small contribution towards closing the gender pay gap.

Very selective reading. Poster says he doesn't tip male staff and you too female staff more to make up for that kind of thing? Doesn't really make any sense now.

If you said you tipped ugly staff to make up for the wage difference that would be more logical.

Samuel T. Cogley · 24-08-2020 07:04PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Bickies?

Biscuits

Edgware · 24-08-2020 07:12PM

raclle wrote: »

I've only ever seen this tipping culture in the U.S as I presume staff don't get paid enough and tipping is sort of like a commission which is not the case here

A lot of U.S. waiters are not on a basic wage and earn their money from tips. Tipping of 20%
of the total bill is the norm. In bars every round takes a tip.

hynesie08 · 24-08-2020 07:18PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Bickies?

Ecstasy

Antares35 · 24-08-2020 07:18PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Biscuits

I know, just think it's an odd tip. It's such a personal choice, how would one even know what biscuits to get for another?

Snails pace · 24-08-2020 07:51PM

If the service is good I'd leave 5/10 euro. Usually if there was a few of us we'd leave 40 between us. A relation of mine works as a waitress in a hotel. Over the Christmas period she had 200 in tips. It all goes into a kitty and is divided equally among all the staff.

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2020 07:57PM

Antares35 wrote: »

I know, just think it's an odd tip. It's such a personal choice, how would one even know what biscuits to get for another?

I would buy you something sophisticated and rich, probably chocolate coated. If I really liked you it would be posh chocolates all the way, but I would make it out like it was no biggie, I would hate to embarrass you or come on too heavy.

Tipping when eating out.

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