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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #1952
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Bend over and face Achill.


  • #1953
    [Deleted User]
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    Comerman wrote: »
    Another Master Bater

    https://kclr96fm.com/kilkenny-councillor-martin-brett-resigns-from-fine-gael/

    How could he inadvertently attend the function?


  • #1954
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    How could he inadvertently attend the function?

    Ah now there's a funny guy, 80 of them weren't aware of the guidelines, but Mr Brett didn't know he was going to be there.


  • #1955
    Sean.3516
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    I look at this on two levels.

    On one level I agree that perhaps he should resign for failing to follow rules that his own government implemented.

    On another level, I just don't give a toss. Really, I think everyone, LITERALLY everybody in this country has failed to follow the rules to the letter at all times. Has anyone considered that people may have attended this event in good faith, not knowing how many would be there? Was there social distancing and mask wearing where appropriate? These would be relevant questions.
    The fact that he resigned over this reminds of when in 2018, a British lord resigned from the House of Lords for being 2 minutes late to a debate. Honestly, stop being such a drama queen. Apologise and get on with your job rather than scandalising your government further.

    I think this country is effectively out of lockdown already even if (on paper) we still have restrictions. Road traffic is about 90% of what it was before. People are getting on with their lives and even if they aren't following every single guideline, the majority are wearing masks when required and distancing physically when with others.


  • #1956
    Ta ceist agam
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    elperello wrote: »
    “I suppose the party leader has made it clear that everybody must pay a price for what has happened. We attended the function inadvertently, but still we have to pay a price” he told KCLR News.

    Comedy gold :)

    How does some one who lives in Kilkenny attend a function in Clifden "inadvertently" ?

    Reminds me of this...



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  • #1957
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,131 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    HI all,

    Just want to acknowledge I made a serious error of judgement earlier on this thread (and deleted it.)

    It's hardly fair of me to demand high standards of politicians etc. while failing to live up to acceptable standards myself.

    Because I'm "here" and directly affected by this event emotions are running a bit high, but that's not an excuse.

    'Night all.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #1958
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    jammiedodgers wrote: »
    For now

    https://twitter.com/caulmick/status/1296856748486254592

    Another nail in the FF coffin - roll it there Colette :D

    RIP Part 2 :P


  • #1959
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Sean.3516 wrote: »
    I look at this on two levels.

    On one level I agree that perhaps he should resign for failing to follow rules that his own government implemented.

    On another level, I just don't give a toss. Really, I think everyone, LITERALLY everybody in this country has failed to follow the rules to the letter at all times. Has anyone considered that people may have attended this event in good faith, not knowing how many would be there? Was there social distancing and mask wearing where appropriate? These would be relevant questions.
    The fact that he resigned over this reminds of when in 2018, a British lord resigned from the House of Lords for being 2 minutes late to a debate. Honestly, stop being such a drama queen. Apologise and get on with your job rather than scandalising your government further.

    I think this country is effectively out of lockdown already even if (on paper) we still have restrictions. Road traffic is about 90% of what it was before. People are getting on with their lives and even if they aren't following every single guideline, the majority are wearing masks when required and distancing physically when with others.

    F**k off Sean.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1960
    boomshakalaka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭boomshakalaka


    They scandalise themselves, Sean.


  • #1961
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Thats a huge mistake in her first week of work as an advisor to Donnelly.

    Corporate PR won't work in politics Colette. Such a rookie error.

    What did she say, can't hear it in that clip, presumably she was acting on Donnelly's instructions - says little for Donnelly if he put her in that position her first week on the job.


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  • #1962
    Sean.3516
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    F**k off Sean.

    No. I don't think I will.


  • #1963
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    How could he inadvertently attend the function?

    Take a wrong turn in Tullamore.


  • #1964
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296937343992176644?s=20

    The show continues


  • #1965
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Sean.3516 wrote: »
    I look at this on two levels.

    On one level I agree that perhaps he should resign for failing to follow rules that his own government implemented.

    On another level, I just don't give a toss. Really, I think everyone, LITERALLY everybody in this country has failed to follow the rules to the letter at all times. Has anyone considered that people may have attended this event in good faith, not knowing how many would be there? Was there social distancing and mask wearing where appropriate? These would be relevant questions.
    The fact that he resigned over this reminds of when in 2018, a British lord resigned from the House of Lords for being 2 minutes late to a debate. Honestly, stop being such a drama queen. Apologise and get on with your job rather than scandalising your government further.

    I think this country is effectively out of lockdown already even if (on paper) we still have restrictions. Road traffic is about 90% of what it was before. People are getting on with their lives and even if they aren't following every single guideline, the majority are wearing masks when required and distancing physically when with others.

    Its hypocrisy at its finest. Business owners are facing the prospect of the losing their business that they sunk everything into because of these traitorous **** and their bull**** guidelines. Guidelines that they themselves can't be bothered to follow. Heads need to roll over this.


  • #1966
    Cute Hoor
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    Sean.3516 wrote: »

    Has anyone considered that people may have attended this event in good faith, not knowing how many would be there?

    Were you ever on a society golf outing yourself Sean, you know the way you get the email with the timesheet in advance giving the tee times of all the participants and the list of all those having the bit of grub afterwards. That would give you a fair idea how many will be there


  • #1967
    Comerman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Comerman


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    How could he inadvertently attend the function?

    Stay at home like the rest of us.


  • #1968
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    James Lawless, TD FOR CO KILDARE - is on the fcking committee - you couldn’t make this up.

    The letter reveals that former agriculture ministers Barry Cowen and Michael Creed; junior minister Robert Troy; former MEP Brian Hayes; Fianna Fáil TD James Lawless; Fianna Fáil senators Aidan Davitt and Paul Daly; former Independent TD Michael Harty; former Fine Gael senators Paul Coghlan and Eamonn Coghlan are among the members of the society’s committee. Only Paul Coghlan and Messrs Harty, Hayes, and Daly are listed as having been in attendance at the controversial dinner event.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/golf-society-members-charged-140-for-two-days-of-golf-and-a-gala-dinner-39467469.html


  • #1969
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    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1296937343992176644?s=20

    The show continues

    Call me paranoid but I think the Government/Media are purposefully drip feeding who was and who was not at the Golf dinner, to deflect from the real reason they were there in the first place, and it wasn't for the golf or the decor.

    Interesting to see John Sweeney and his wife sitting at the top table with the legal pals et al, as they are the company Directors of Western Railway Operations LTD, oil retailers and hotel management.

    Western Railway operations ltd may trade as Clifden Station house or Sweeney Oil.

    Cahoots!!...I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine!

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Compa...Limited-573077


    Does anyone think there's a dirty connection between the Directors of Clifden Station House and the influential people they were seated with and dined with in their own hotel?

    There has been 5 mortgage/charges against Western Railway Operations ltd all on the same day this year 28th February 2020.

    John Sweeney that was seated at the table with the High court Judge , has 38 directorships spanning mainly oil retail and mining, legal and construction / planning and parkrite parking.

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Direc...hn/2105755823/

    The particular Sweeney family are highly influential people worth billions.

    Why was Station House Hotel owned by the Sweeney family chosen?
    Is there a link as to why they 81 party knew the Hotel management would let the Golf party go ahead without social distancing?

    There's something very fishy going on and more questions must be asked about this relationship with the hotel owners and those that attended the Gold dinner.


  • #1970
    Hollybeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭Hollybeg


    AGS need to make an example of the 81 who attended that function. TD's and Senators should be resigning their seats... Sorry isn't good enough. People have sacrificed countless things over the past 6 months. It's a complete pisstake.


  • #1971
    Sean.3516
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Its hypocrisy at its finest. Business owners are facing the prospect of the losing their business that they sunk everything into because of these traitorous **** and their bull**** guidelines. Guidelines that they themselves can't be bothered to follow. Heads need to roll over this.

    I agree the guidelines are bull****. By and large they're neither being followed nor enforced. That's why I yawned when I read this story.

    How many other golfing outings or large gatherings in breach of guidelines took place in this country on the same day that weren't covered in the media because they weren't attended by TDs? A lot I'd reckon.

    I care a lot less about TDs golfing than I would if it came out some TD had visited a critically ill relative in hospital when no one else could. There is a distinction to be made between serious offences like that and going golfing.


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  • #1972
    Truthvader
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    Ta ceist agam wrote: »
    Call me paranoid but I think the Government/Media are purposefully drip feeding who was and who was not at the Golf dinner, to deflect from the real reason they were there in the first place, and it wasn't for the golf or the decor.

    Interesting to see John Sweeney and his wife sitting at the top table with the legal pals et al, as they are the company Directors of Western Railway Operations LTD, oil retailers and hotel management.

    Western Railway operations ltd may trade as Clifbden Station house or Sweeney Oil.

    Cahoots!!...I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine!

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Compa...Limited-573077


    Does anyone think there's a dirty connection between the Directors of Clifden Station House and the influential people they were seated with and dined with in their own hotel?

    There has been 5 mortgage/charges against Western Railway Operations ltd all on the same day this year 28th February 2020.

    John Sweeney that was seated at the table with the High court Judge , has 38 directorships spanning mainly oil retail and mining, legal and construction / planning and parkrite parking.

    https://www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Direc...hn/2105755823/

    The particular Sweeney family are highly influential people worth billions.

    Why was Station House Hotel owned by the Sweeney family chosen?
    Is there a link as to why they 81 party knew the Hotel management would let the Golf party go ahead without social distancing?

    There's something very fishy going on and more questions must be asked about this relationship with the hotel owners and those that attended the Gold dinner.

    Maaaan maybe lay off the weed before posting. Uhhh?


  • #1973
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Sean.3516 wrote: »
    I agree the guidelines are bull****. By and large they're neither being followed nor enforced. That's why I yawned when I read this story.

    How many other golfing outings or large gatherings in breach of guidelines took place in this country on the same day that weren't covered in the media because they weren't attended by TDs? A lot I'd reckon.

    I care a lot less about TDs golfing than I would if it came out some TD had visited a critically ill relative in hospital when no one else could. There is a distinction to be made between serious offences like that and going golfing.

    If they weren't so heavy handed with emotional manipulation of "Stay home or you'll kill Grandma" garbage I wouldn't care either, but these are demanding that we follow their guidelines and time and again they spit in our faces by being caught disregarding the rules they demand we follow.

    I knew these restriction were just a joke back in May when Varadkar and Harris were cheering on those BLM protests after the latest round of why we need to stay locked in our homes.

    Where the damn Guillotines. Time to break them out already.


  • #1974
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Martin Brett Kilkenny Councillor resigns
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1296940950472794113?s=19


  • #1975
    Cute Hoor
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    Sean.3516 wrote: »

    How many other golfing outings or large gatherings in breach of guidelines took place in this country on the same day that weren't covered in the media because they weren't attended by TDs? A lot I'd reckon.

    There were lots of golf outings on the same day, and there is no problem with the golf outing, it's allowed, it's the 81 person shindig afterwards that is BANNED, banned by the very people who were breaching the ban. I would be very surprised if any golf club hosted an 81 person shindig after any of their outings, they take their responsibilities (as set out by the GUI) seriously.


  • #1976
    Grey Fox
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    No one shouted stop


  • #1977
    golfball37
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭golfball37


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    James Lawless, TD FOR CO KILDARE - is on the fcking committee - you couldn’t make this up.

    The letter reveals that former agriculture ministers Barry Cowen and Michael Creed; junior minister Robert Troy; former MEP Brian Hayes; Fianna Fáil TD James Lawless; Fianna Fáil senators Aidan Davitt and Paul Daly; former Independent TD Michael Harty; former Fine Gael senators Paul Coghlan and Eamonn Coghlan are among the members of the society’s committee. Only Paul Coghlan and Messrs Harty, Hayes, and Daly are listed as having been in attendance at the controversial dinner event.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/golf-society-members-charged-140-for-two-days-of-golf-and-a-gala-dinner-39467469.html
    Distinct lack of shinners/alphabet soup names there. It’s almost as though it’s a secret society of the betters.


  • #1978
    Ta ceist agam
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Maaaan maybe lay off the weed before posting. Uhhh?

    Time for you to go to bed.....you'll be back at school (hopefully) next week!


  • #1979
    Gods Gift
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    Grey Fox wrote: »
    No one shouted stop

    I think fore would be more appropriate.


  • #1980
    Edgware
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    Hollybeg wrote: »
    AGS need to make an example of the 81 who attended that function. TD's and Senators should be resigning their seats... Sorry isn't good enough. People have sacrificed countless things over the past 6 months. It's a complete pisstake.
    AGS can send a file to DPP but thats that. There really is **** all punishment


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  • #1981
    Gods Gift
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    Edgware wrote: »
    AGS can send a file to DPP but thats that. There really is **** all punishment

    No golf till Xmas.


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