FF/FG/Green Next Government

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 06:27AM

@Shefwedfan

I know you repeatedly dodged a fairly binary yes/no question asked repeatedly of you over a day or two, ref if you thought this govt have performed well since it's foundation.

Here's another

Do think Dara Calleary should go, whether it be by resignation/sacked?

markodaly · 21-08-2020 06:32AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

That's for themselves to sort out.

Exactly my point. The fact you cant even disagree with my point says it all.

A new government won't magically re-open schools in some mythical perfect fashion.
A new government won't re-open the country and make Covid-19 disappear at the same time.
A new government won't be able to discover a vaccine on their own.
A new government won't be able to fix the economy or get rid of the debt.

So in essence, we will be back to square one with some new faces in the Telly, telling us "NEPHT is advising X,Y,Z"

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 06:33AM

markodaly wrote: »

Ben ****ing Gilroy..... come off it.... the guy is a lunatic.
Maeve Murran another lunatic and a crazy Anti-Vax conspiracy theorist....

Like, I know some may not be happy with what happened in that Golf event, but lets not listen to these idiots either.

Ben Gilroy, civil rights activist? WTF!
The lad is in favour of forced deportations

markodaly · 21-08-2020 06:35AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Ben Gilroy, civil rights activist? WTF!
The lad is in favour of forced deportations

Ben Gilroy will stick his name to anything that gives him a platform.
People should be wise to him with his FreeMan bull**** he was peddling ten years ago. Now he is onto another bandwagon.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:36AM

McMurphy wrote: »

@Shefwedfan

I know you repeatedly dodged a fairly binary yes/no question asked repeatedly of you over a day or two, ref if you thought this govt have performed well since it's foundation.

Here's another

Do think Dara Calleary should go, whether it be by resignation/sacked?

It doesn’t matter what I think, if he has any cop on he will resign himself straight up.

Maybe they did social distance but he should resign for been a f**kibg idiot....everyone knows at this stage the SF trolls are all over the country. We are now in US politics. The days of having a private life as a politician are gone. As seen here with Francie obsessed with Leo personal life on a daily basis

If he was stupid enough to go to party he should of known it would come out, so for stupidity he should be bumped down

He really should have just done himself last night, Cowan should never have gone in first place. That was a witch hunt...

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:39AM

I have still to see after 3 days a single posts from our resident SF gang on any alternative to the guideline announced

Maybe it’s time a few people shut it till they came out with a better plan. The Golf was a f**k up but calling for a government to fall with zero alternatives is an absolute joke and will cripple ireland

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 06:41AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It doesn’t matter what I think, if he has any cop on he will resign himself straight up.

Maybe they did social distance but he should resign for been a f**kibg idiot....everyone knows at this stage the SF trolls are all over the country. We are now in US politics. The days of having a private life as a politician are gone. As seen here with Francie obsessed with Leo personal life on a daily basis

If he was stupid enough to go to party he should of known it would come out, so for stupidity he should be bumped down

He really should have just done himself last night, Cowan should never have gone in first place. That was a witch hunt...

"private life as a politician"? Are you for real here, it was The Oireachtas Golf Society's get together - not the AGM of his kids Youth Club FFS!

markodaly · 21-08-2020 06:42AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It doesn’t matter what I think, if he has any cop on he will resign himself straight up.

Maybe they did social distance but he should resign for been a f**kibg idiot....everyone knows at this stage the SF trolls are all over the country. We are now in US politics. The days of having a private life as a politician are gone. As seen here with Francie obsessed with Leo personal life on a daily basis

If he was stupid enough to go to party he should of known it would come out, so for stupidity he should be bumped down

He really should have just done himself last night, Cowan should never have gone in first place. That was a witch hunt...

We are definitely seeing the Americanisation of politics though. Every fart, breath, inch moved, is scrutinised and critiqued.
FF was last in power back in 2011 and they have had a baptism of fire the past few months. This is essentially the new game now.

The thing is, what goes around comes around and the same new standard will be applied to any other government including SF. Reap what you sow lads.

Poor_old_gill · 21-08-2020 06:42AM

markodaly wrote: »

Exactly my point. The fact you cant even disagree with my point says it all.

A new government won't magically re-open schools in some mythical perfect fashion.
A new government won't re-open the country and make Covid-19 disappear at the same time.
A new government won't be able to discover a vaccine on their own.
A new government won't be able to fix the economy or get rid of the debt.

So in essence, we will be back to square one with some new faces in the Telly, telling us "NEPHT is advising X,Y,Z"

Mark- no one thinks that a change of government is going to provide some kind of silver bullet but the issue just most have now, myself included, is that that the FF ministers in place seen utter incompetent.

They don’t seem to be able to deliver a message, make a decision & don’t even seem to have the intellectual capacity to know how the optics of a personal decision will play out.

In about 48 hours we’ve had Martin & Donnelly contradicting each other on restrictions as neither seems to know or understand what’s goin on, Donnelly comparing the risk Covid to that of playing on a trampoline, Calleary & his golf jaunt- all this being played out to the background of worries about kids returning to school while the minister for education is MIA.

So back to my original point- a change of Gov won’t get rid of Covid but the appointment of some competent ministers would help to assuage people’s fears in a time of real uncertainty.

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 06:45AM

markodaly wrote: »

We are definitely seeing the Americanisation of politics though. Every fart, breath, inch moved, is scrutinised and critiqued.
FF was last in power back in 2011 and they have had a baptism of fire the past few months. This is essentially the new game now.

The thing is, what goes around comes around and the same new standard will be applied to any other government including SF. Reap what you sow lads.

**Cough**

McMurphy wrote: »

"private life as a politician"? Are you for real here, it was The Oireachtas Golf Society's get together - not the AGM of his kids Youth Club FFS!

Whilst they're contemplating introducing legislation to allow the gards to enter private homes without warrants to break up house partys with more than six people.

There'll be no moral high ground to be seized herry today men, stop trying.

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 06:49AM

Calleary gone.

Shouldn't stop there though.

Patser · 21-08-2020 06:57AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Calleary gone.

Shouldn't stop there though.

If Varadkar is smart, he should immediately sack the 2 FG senators that were at the golf thingy - no-one really cares about senators, it's little skin off Varadkars nose but would show leadership.

Then he has shown seperation from FF again from FF, and more leadership than MM - who'll end up losing TDs over this. Added to all the other confusion since FF took over and Martin will look to be sinking.

Then Varadkar can engineer an election if needed, and stand under a banner of remember the control and leadership we've shown for last 8 years, do you really want Martin back in. The election would swallow up FF - with a proper straight fight between FG (centre right) and SF (left) over what direction to go in the future.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:58AM

Calleary gone, so much for a “fun day”

Hahahaahaha

Bishop of hope · 21-08-2020 06:58AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Calleary gone.

Shouldn't stop there though.

At least he did the right thing, or was pushed, whatever.
There's opposition party's could take a lesson from that and perhaps do the same from prior events.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:59AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Calleary gone.

Shouldn't stop there though.

Who are you sacking? Or you think you have the right to tell companies to sack private employees?

Nobody else of interest was at the thing, the one person has resigned....unless you are after the DJ? Hillarious

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 07:00AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Calleary gone, so much for a “fun day”

Hahahaahaha

Let me get this straight, you're laughing at the resignation of one of your own party's ministers ineptitude and stupidity?

Do you think it begins and ends with that?

Hodors Appletart · 21-08-2020 07:00AM

he had no choice

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 07:01AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

At least he did the right thing, or was pushed, whatever.
There's opposition party's could take a lesson from that and perhaps do the same from prior events.

The opposition would have to sack Mary Lou, Pearse, Michele and who else for breaking all the guidelines

But sure with SF it’s always one rule for them and another rule for everyone else

Displayed daily by the questionable spokespersons on here

costacorta · 21-08-2020 07:02AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Calleary gone.

Shouldn't stop there though.

That minister of Agriculture post is really hurting FF , Who is next in line to take it?

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 07:03AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Let me get this straight, you're laughing at the resignation of one of your own party's ministers ineptitude and stupidity?

Do you think it begins and ends with that?

I’m laughing at the sad individual who life is based around the government, how many of you lot posted about “it will be a fun day tomor”

What will you do now? Go talk to friends? Talk to family? Or sit on boards all day

My guess isboards all day

Hhahhahahahahhahahaa

PS I never wanted Calleary in first place. BRING BACK COWAN

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 07:03AM

costacorta wrote: »

That minister of Agriculture post is really hurting FF , Who is next in line to take it?

Let the farmers decide

BRING BACK COWAN

Let’s start the campaign

McMurphy · 21-08-2020 07:04AM

costacorta wrote: »

That minister of Agriculture post is really hurting FF , Who is next in line to take it?

It's the equivalent of the justice minister position hardships for FG.

Scoundrel · 21-08-2020 07:08AM

Another one bites the dust the shinners must be pissing themselves laughing and no doubt FG are allowing themselves a quiet laugh as well.

I knew FF were hilariously incompetent but this is even worse than I imagined.

Jimi H · 21-08-2020 07:09AM

This government will end the careers of a few FF TDs I think. While I don’t like FF and will never vote for them, I hope they get their act together as we desperately need leadership over the next few months.

gifted · 21-08-2020 07:11AM

Awful...awful..awful.....this government is a laughing stock......God knows how the other European leaders are looking at us?

Brendan Bendar · 21-08-2020 07:11AM

McMurphy wrote: »

It's the equivalent of the justice minister position hardships for FG.

Yes reminds me of poor Barry McElduff... nice number couldn’t resist and blew a job for life.

Scoundrel · 21-08-2020 07:12AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

If FG pull the plug then it will only be to keep a safe distance from this sh*t show- if they wanted to finish FF altogether then they would keep giving them more rope by leaving them in Gov.

Wait until the schools go back & Norma Foley has to handle a crisis

Yeah I suppose let FF own the schools fiasco first and at least one really unpopular budget.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 07:12AM

gifted wrote: »

Awful...awful..awful.....this government is a laughing stock......God knows how the other European leaders are looking at us?

Do you have any idea what is going on in Europe at the moment?

emo72 · 21-08-2020 07:15AM

FF probably thought they would show the world how reformed they are. They way things are playing out I think SF will get 150 seats in the next election.

Jimi H · 21-08-2020 07:15AM

Scoundrel wrote: »

Yeah I suppose let FF own the schools fiasco first and at least one really unpopular budget.

We have a major problem with waiting lists in the health services too. The hospitals were completely overwhelmed last year with a mild strain of the flu so this winter could be desperate.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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