FF/FG/Green Next Government

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:36AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

A lot of dribble on here. Just shouting and throwing mud but it is from the same group. Which to be fair they are doing exactly what the TDs do in their particular party. The government will last the next 5 years, posting on a daily basis to say they won't is not really going to change that fact. It is funny to see.....

Ah yes, we will be seeing a lot of that talk. "Government about to fall"....
Nonesense.

The only way this will collapse are the Greens walking. And if that happens both the Greens and FF will suffer, FG will be a huge beneficiary of that.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:36AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What did you think I was talking about?

The next election, which is 5 years away....
Grand.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:39AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I'll be sure to criticise Eoin Ó Broin when he's a shít minister. But let's get back to criticising those in charge. I know, I know, it's tough for you not bring up SF at every turn, but do try harder.

Will you? I'll bookmark this post when or if he ever sits at the cabinet table, indeed it will be hilarious to see how the usual SF apostles spin when SF get their chance at the table. I can see many an account closed.

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 12:46AM

markodaly wrote: »

The next election, which is 5 years away....
Grand.

Hmmm 5 years you say?
I'll bookmark this one. Will it be as accurate as your election result predictions?

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:47AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No.
The electorate vote...if there is a single majority you can say the party was voted in.
If it's a coalition the electorate get no say in what that coalition is until next time out.

Very simple really. This government was not chosen by the people...the people accept the concept of forming coalitions...you can say that okay.

If that is the case, any future SF government will not have been chosen by the people either Francie.

I love how you are a stickler for the technicalities of the democratic mandate of the people, but then when the Provos were killing all around them with zero political mandate, you brush it off by suggesting there was a silent majority or other such nonsense.

Cake and eating it.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:50AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Hmmm 5 years you say?
I'll bookmark this one. Will it be as accurate as your election result predictions?

My prediction was as accurate as SF's, otherwise, they would have run more candidates

Anyway, we don't hold elections every few weeks or months because twitter gets all hot and bothered.

The government holds sway until it doesn't. It has a constitutional mandate for a 5-year term. It may be shorter, like the last one was 4 years, it may not be, it may go the full term, but the whole slipping and sliding on what mandate they have is pathetic.

JP Liz V1 · 21-08-2020 12:55AM

Kildare on lockdown but TD and family travel for #GolfGate

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 12:55AM

markodaly wrote: »

If that is the case, any future SF government will not have been chosen by the people either Francie.
[/If they are elected as a majority single party government, yes they will have been. Otherwise, in a coalition they won't have been. As I said to Shef, it's pretty simple stuff really.

I love how you are a stickler for the technicalities of the democratic mandate of the people, but then when the Provos were killing all around them with zero political mandate, you brush it off by suggesting there was a silent majority or other such nonsense.

Cake and eating it.

I never supported the IRA...at any point. And I also never suggested they had 'majority support'. They did have plenty of support though, you don't have to support them to see that.

Too bad you cannot tell the truth and embarrass yourself.

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 12:56AM

markodaly wrote: »

My prediction was as accurate as SF's, otherwise, they would have run more candidates

Anyway, we don't hold elections every few weeks or months because twitter gets all hot and bothered.

The government holds sway until it doesn't. It has a constitutional mandate for a 5-year term. It may be shorter, like the last one was 4 years, it may not be, it may go the full term, but the whole slipping and sliding on what mandate they have is pathetic.

Backtracking from the '5 year' prediction already?

James Brown · 21-08-2020 12:56AM

markodaly wrote: »

My prediction was as accurate as SF's, otherwise, they would have run more candidates

Anyway, we don't hold elections every few weeks or months because twitter gets all hot and bothered.

The government holds sway until it doesn't. It has a constitutional mandate for a 5-year term. It may be shorter, like the last one was 4 years, it may not be, it may go the full term, but the whole slipping and sliding on what mandate they have is pathetic.

But whats your view on the folk at the golf function? Should some, all resign? Tough to play do as I say not as I do.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:57AM

The_Brood wrote: »

22nd, time to protest: https://www.facebook.com/Irlandia24H/posts/1277322809278704

Ben ****ing Gilroy..... come off it.... the guy is a lunatic.
Maeve Murran another lunatic and a crazy Anti-Vax conspiracy theorist....

Like, I know some may not be happy with what happened in that Golf event, but lets not listen to these idiots either.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:58AM

Bowie wrote: »

But whats your view on the folk at the golf function? Should some, all resign? Tough to play do as I say not as I do.

The only TD or government minister at the event, to my knowledge, is Dara Cleary and yes, I think he should resign.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 12:59AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Backtracking from the '5 year' prediction already?

I didn't make a 'prediction' Francie, I simply made a statement of fact that under the constitution a government who has the confidence of the Dail has a 5-year term.

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:02AM

markodaly wrote: »

The only TD or government minister at the event, to my knowledge, is Dara Cleary and yes, I think he should resign.

Senators, Gardai, Judges, people from locked down counties and Big Phil too schommozing with RTE's retired top political correspondent....'mon Mark...get real here. That will cut no mustard tomorrow.

James Brown · 21-08-2020 01:02AM

markodaly wrote: »

My prediction was as accurate as SF's, otherwise, they would have run more candidates

Anyway, we don't hold elections every few weeks or months because twitter gets all hot and bothered.

The government holds sway until it doesn't. It has a constitutional mandate for a 5-year term. It may be shorter, like the last one was 4 years, it may not be, it may go the full term, but the whole slipping and sliding on what mandate they have is pathetic.

But whats your view on the folk at the golf function? Should some, all resign? Tough to play do as I say not as I do.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 01:03AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If they are elected as a majority single party government

Something that has not happened in Ireland in over 43 years.... and less likely even now, so yea, that is NEVER going to happen.... therefore the only option for SF is a coalition. I know you know this. You know that I know that you know this... so stop play silly rethorical games.

Otherwise, in a coalition they won't have been.

Correct, ill bookmark this post

I never supported the IRA...at any point. And I also never suggested they had 'majority support'. They did have plenty of support though, you don't have to support them to see that.

Never ever had a mandate to do what they did. For someone so concerned about democratic principles you should know this.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 01:07AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Senators, Gardai, Judges, people from locked down counties and Big Phil too schommozing with RTE's retired top political correspondent....'mon Mark...get real here. That will cut no mustard tomorrow.

So, every one of those people should resign, all 81 of them.
Is that what you are suggesting?

Richard Hillman · 21-08-2020 01:08AM

Thing to look forward to

September - Reopening of Schools (and possibly pubs) and Cases going back up April-May Levels
October - The Harshest budget in the history of the state
November - Winter Flu Season and nobody having a clue if they have Covid or a cold.
December - More winter flu and suddenly realising you are broke and have to pay for Christmas. You're also freezing cold and the Greens have jacked up your fuel bill in the budget.

What a time to be alive folks.

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:08AM

markodaly wrote: »

Something that has not happened in Ireland in over 43 years.... and less likely even now, so yea, that is NEVER going to happen.... therefore the only option for SF is a coalition. I know you know this. You know that I know that you know this... so stop play silly rethorical games.

Games mark...I am on record here as saying I want them to go into a coalition first.
I have no problem with coalition...I object to somebody saying the people 'choose' a coalition...they didn't. They couldn't possibly do that.

Correct, ill bookmark this post

Never ever had a mandate to do what they did. For someone so concerned about democratic principles you should know this.

Again as I said before and asked...show me a revolutionary organization that held elections before an uprising.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 01:22AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Again as I said before and asked...show me a revolutionary organization that held elections before an uprising.

SF in 1918

BonnieSituation · 21-08-2020 01:27AM

markodaly wrote: »

SF in 1918

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dundalkfc10 · 21-08-2020 01:29AM

It's turned into a SF thread again

It's amazing how this happens

FrancieBrady · 21-08-2020 01:37AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

It's turned into a SF thread again

It's amazing how this happens

I doubt it will be tomorrow. Night all.

JP Liz V1 · 21-08-2020 01:39AM

markodaly wrote: »

So, every one of those people should resign, all 81 of them.
Is that what you are suggesting?

Sean O Rourke already retired on a fat pension, if they won't resign, fine them, cut salaries and pensions

MM needs to step up now show leadership if DC won't resign, sack him

They are lucky the Dail is on holidays the opposition would have a field day

ebbsy · 21-08-2020 02:05AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Tomorrow will be fun!

Oh yes, there will be blood.

markodaly · 21-08-2020 05:50AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Thing to look forward to

September - Reopening of Schools (and possibly pubs) and Cases going back up April-May Levels
October - The Harshest budget in the history of the state
November - Winter Flu Season and nobody having a clue if they have Covid or a cold.
December - More winter flu and suddenly realising you are broke and have to pay for Christmas. You're also freezing cold and the Greens have jacked up your fuel bill in the budget.

What a time to be alive folks.

You may be right.... and how will having someone else in power right now fix any of those mentioned issues?

There is no silver bullet here folks. An election fixes nothing but the angst of some keyboard warriors.

Bishop of hope · 21-08-2020 06:09AM

markodaly wrote: »

You may be right.... and how will having someone else in power right now fix any of those mentioned issues?

There is no silver bullet here folks. An election fixes nothing but the angst of some keyboard warriors.

That's for themselves to sort out.
There's loads of keyboard warriors, and being on a keyboard calling out others for doing the same is sort of hypocritical.
The party's in govt and there's three of them, it's themselves that have to sort out this mess and decide where they go from here.
But from an onlookers point of view, this govt has been a mess from day one.
They have showed no cohesion and seem to be getting more incohesive every week.

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:19AM

The_Brood wrote: »

As disgusting as all this is, it is hardly surprising. Just what kind of people decided to vote for these folks to govern us? It's really not a matter of what other options there are. How do you sleep at night knowing you voted for this absolute shower of mockery?

22nd, time to protest: https://www.facebook.com/Irlandia24H/posts/1277322809278704

Hahahaha protest? Shower of unemployed crying because they want more money....if they stayed sober they might be able to arrange a protest

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:22AM

markodaly wrote: »

You may be right.... and how will having someone else in power right now fix any of those mentioned issues?

There is no silver bullet here folks. An election fixes nothing but the angst of some keyboard warriors.

This is the problem. Everyone shouting and roaring

Let say they get their way, we have another election which will cost millions and what exactly is the new government going to do? They can’t make Covid disappear and they can’t let people do what they want.....

New government, first announcement same complaints because people don’t like and then it will be “sack the government” again

Shefwedfan · 21-08-2020 06:27AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I never supported the IRA...at any point. And I also never suggested they had 'majority support'. They did have plenty of support though, you don't have to support them to see that.

Too bad you cannot tell the truth and embarrass yourself.

You never supported the PIRA?

You have spent weeks telling everyone that nobody lived in fear from the PIRA and all the issue with the trouble wa at he unionist and the PIRA. The PIRA was the one keeping law and order and stopping the drugs

Very strange shouting now you don’t support them?

Quit lying on every single post,

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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