2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ELM327 wrote: »

There's a difference to nepotism (which the democrats do to) and racism.
This is racial and sexist discrimination. She got the job because of her perceived race and her gender.

its really not, you (and Trump) are just upset because she is a good choice and strong enough to take Trump/Pence on. It's amazing how so many Trump supporters have laughed about "owning the lefties" and "drinking down lefties tears" but are now crying like babies over Bidens VP pick.

ELM327 wrote: »

He picked a body that was female and "black" (she's actually caribbean and indian, not african american, but thats another story).


She did not get the job because of her ability, but instead because of her ethnicity. If she was white and male she would not have been tapped

She is an elected Senator is she not. Was the AG of California I think as well.

What qualifications did Trump have for the POTUS job? Just for comparison?

Even he admits, in his interview with Hannity, that now at least he has some experience which although is was totally over rated in 2016, and in fact was seen as something ba, now he has it it is something good.

When you say he picked a body that was female, you are aware that it was only ever going to one of two possibilities right? It was clear that he picked Pence because he was a Christian and part of the establishment and had experience of Washington.

I assume you are similarly upset that he is going with Pence again.

ELM327 wrote: »

Joe needs someone to debate for him, so, given the fact that she thinks he's a racist already, should be interesting to watch the VP debates

joe certainly needs somebody to debate Pence. he can hardly do that himself, can he? Pence will piss himself when harris starts going after him.

ELM327 wrote: »

The only one that matters. >270 electoral college votes.

Right, so the only qualification that Harris needs is to get enough votes in November.

You have just destroyed your own argument. Well played Sir.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Pence has been a fantastic VP. They have made a great team so far. No need for there to be a change for the second term IMHO

Vice Presidents do nothing. It's not that hard to be great.

BattleCorp wrote: »

The political system in the US must really be fcuked when the electorate have to chose between:

Trump - an ar5ehole of the hightest level who seems to be going a bit senile lately.

and

Biden - a creepy ar5ehole who likes sniffing kids and seems to be senile this long time.

You're meant to pick a side dude!

ELM327 wrote: »

The only one that matters. >270 electoral college votes.

On that basis presumably you will agree that should Biden get >270 Electoral College votes then he is more than qualified for the job regardless of any Trump fan talk about him having dementia etc. What's good for Trump is good for Biden right?

hotmail.com wrote: »

Harris supports the death penalty as well.

People want to pinpoint Trump as America's problem. Much much wider than Trump .

I don't have the stats to hand, but from memory a majority seem to support the death penalty in the US. So Harris supporting it is by no means odd in the US.

I don't think anyone, well maybe not anyone but certainly not many, blame US problems entirely on Trump. It is clear that many problems are long standing and in many ways Trumps election was down to these problems failing to be addressed.

But Trump has not only failed to address these problems, he seems to go out of his way to exacerbate the problems. Instead of looking to pull the country back together ihe is actively working to tear it apart.

The mail in voting being the latest example. It is clear that the pandemic should result in an increase in mail in voting, but rather than embrace that and look to ensure it is done with the best rigor and transparency he instead is looking to simply close it down and disenfranchise millions of voters.

stinkypinky wrote: »

Latest CNN poll has Biden 50 vs 46 nationally and Biden leading by 1 across the battleground states. That's a double digit shift in a couple of months.

Harris will end up being a bad pick imo, not because she's black or she's a woman, because she's fake and people can see through it. Not a likeable person, wagging her finger and talking down to people anytime there's a hearing in Congress. She was doing so badly in the primary she quit long before her home state of Californias votes were counted.

Biden still wins I think in Nov but I thought it would be a white wash - the more he appears in public the more weird statements he makes the better it is for Trump, but time is running out and Covid is still protecting him.

Which CNN poll?

stinkypinky wrote: »

Biden still wins I think in Nov but I thought it would be a white wash - the more he appears in public the more weird statements he makes the better it is for Trump, but time is running out and Covid is still protecting him.

The weird thing is why is this an issue for Bien but not Trump. Why is Trump given a free pass on saying anything but those same people have a issue with Biden.

Makes no sense to me, unless of course the 'issue' with Biden is, like with HC, just an excuse to vote for Trump knowing all the baggage he carries.

stinkypinky wrote: »

Maybe it is a double standard, I don't know, but Biden has said some really strange things.

If you don't vote for me you ain't black.
Black community isn't diverse like the Latino one.
Asks a black abc news anchor if hes a junkie and if he did cocaine before the interview etc.

Then there's the frequent incoherent ramblings and losing his train of thought. Trump is out there everyday, Biden isn't and that's going to hurt him

https://mobile.twitter.com/IndySpanglish/status/1294422681014751245

we have discussed that before and it didnt happen.

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Except that's not quite what happened now is it?

The exact context and quote are below



The point being - Suggesting that he had dementia and that the absence of test results refuting it was evidence that he had was akin to someone suggesting that the reporter was a junkie just because he couldn't show the results of a test proving otherwise.

A clunky analogy for sure - But not a slur on the reporter or his race in any way shape or form.

stinkypinky wrote: »

What?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-ask-reporter-junkie/

During a panel interview with journalists of color, presumed U.S. Democratic 2020 presidential nominee Joe Biden was prodded by an interviewer to comment on whether he would take a cognitive test to prove his mental fitness, to which the former U.S. vice president reportedly replied, “Are you a junkie?”

After a clip of the interview went viral in August 2020, Snopes readers inquired about the veracity of the claim, which we determined to be true.

i even included a quote of what he said but i include it again so you can read what he said in context.

“No, I haven’t taken a test. Why the hell would I take a test? Come on, man. That’s like saying to you before you got on this program if you had taken a test [on] were you taking cocaine or not?” Biden said. “What do you think, huh? Are you a junkie?”