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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #1562
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,143 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Judging by today's comments I think any further lifting of restrictions this year is a pipe dream. We will probably go back to a Phase 2.5 this coming week. Restaurants and pubs closed with possibly gyms and hairdressers added. The Berlin pub footage will used as an excuse to shut those places down.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #1563
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gral6


    I wonder if NPHET gonna recommend tomorrow full lock down again


  • #1564
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Anyone know what there planning or could introduce, not a lot left they can throw at it.

    Almost as if lockdowns don't eliminate the virus and just kick the can down the road.

    Who could have predicted it?


  • #1565
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Have you watched Free Solo, Alex Hammond. Thats a brave fella now that I could understand where hes coming from if he was spouting what your saying. But you are spending most of your time motor mouthing on an anonymous social media site Go and take some risks yourself and come back to me, Covid isnt a risk to you yet, but it is to millions of people. Elderly, immuno supressed people, kids with illnesses. Your never going to be rich, if you were you wouldnt be posting your view of :pac:economics on here and thats for sure. No one really gives a sh.. about your analysis. Go to the pub Fintan, no ones stopping you.

    What a staggeringly condescending crock of **** of a post.

    I've seen that sort of bullying on the other thread but I'm a bit long in the tooth to listen to such muck


  • #1566
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    JRant wrote: »
    Judging by today's comments I think any further lifting of restrictions this year is a pipe dream. We will probably go back to a Phase 2.5 this coming week. Restaurants and pubs closed with possibly gyms and hairdressers added. The Berlin pub footage will used as an excuse to shut those places down.

    Such utter horse ****e...they haven’t a fcuking clue if they think any of that will make the blindest bit of difference....it’s a virus, it lives in human hosts and spreads via contact...unless we are suggesting living like solitary hermits forever it is going absolutely no where and will pop back up as soon human contact resumes.

    Hairdressers, gyms etc have not been a problem area since reopening. If anything they’ve all been an example. Why punish them?
    And as for gyms they are a great aid to some of our physical and mental health...good health and not be obese greatly aid you ward off Covid...but they’d keep offies and fast food outlets open! Headless chickens would make better decisions


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  • #1567
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    gral6 wrote: »
    I wonder if NPHET gonna recommend tomorrow full lock down again

    Nope, tomorrow's meeting was always scheduled, looks like schools and the 3 counties under restrictions are the main points of discussion.

    You just wont see high levels of compliance with another lockdown and they know it.

    They disscus any recommendations at every meeting


  • #1568
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    JRant wrote: »
    We shouldn't stop there. Not enough is spent on proactive healthcare rather than reactive.

    No money in it.


  • #1569
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Nope, tomorrow's meeting was always scheduled, looks like schools and the 3 counties under restrictions are the main points of discussion.

    You just wont see high levels of compliance with another lockdown and they know it.

    They disscus any recommendations at every meeting

    I don’t trust they wouldn't do it. They’re extremely reactionary and likely to do anything regardless of how stupid and useless it’s proven itself to be already


  • #1570
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    What a staggeringly condescending crock of **** of a post.

    I've seen that sort of bullying on the other thread but I'm a bit long in the tooth to listen to such muck
    Perhaps the same as asking me to join you under the bed really isnt it. If you cant take it, dont give it out. Did you watch Free Solo yet?


  • #1571
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,147 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    The government doesn’t have the resources to fund another shut down. And the public won’t buy into it even if they did.
    Severe compensation measures must be implemented for pubs at this point though


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  • #1572
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    road_high wrote: »
    I don’t trust they wouldn't do it. They’re extremely reactionary and likely to do anything regardless of how stupid and useless it’s proven itself to be already

    I share your sentiment here.

    I've resigned myself to having the shopping bags searched again soon enough to prove the purpose of my journeys.

    Common sense departed when Covid arrived


  • #1573
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Gael23 wrote: »
    The government doesn’t have the resources to fund another shut down. And the public won’t buy into it even if they did.
    Severe compensation measures must be implemented for pubs at this point though

    There’s been a nice precedent after coming out of LOK lockdown that will soften their coughs I think...businesses are rightly demanding compensation for forced closures...extend that country wide plus adding all those other business you’re into billions in no time. Bottomless pit figures. Plus the precedent of the PUP payment that just cannot be reneged on either once it’s been given


  • #1574
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    I shareyour sentiment here.

    I've resigned myself to having the shopping bags searched again soon enough to prove the purpose of my journeys.

    Common sense departed when Covid arrived
    Whats in the bags Fintan? I doubt any rock climbing equipment. Perhaps a 6 pack of Guinness and Taytos. No threat really. Just a key board warrior complaining about everything but doing nothing himself.;)


  • #1575
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Whats in the bags Fintan? I doubt any rock climbing equipment. Perhaps a 6 pack of Guinness and Taytos. No threat really. Just a key board warrior complaining about everything but doing nothing himself.;)

    A friends mother talked her out of suicide by taking the piss out of her and telling her to go do something with it...travel in war zones, take every drug you can, get as much of of every crazy near deadly activity you can and then my daughter you can go kill yourself with my consent.

    Of course she is still alive and happy to have a badass mother.


  • #1576
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Whats in the bags Fintan? I doubt any rock climbing equipment. Perhaps a 6 pack of Guinness and Taytos. No threat really. Just a key board warrior complaining about everything but doing nothing himself.;)

    Haha yep, Guinness and taytos, also copious amounts of loo roll to compensate for the liquid based diet!:p


  • #1577
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Yet another day without a death. The Taoiseach is said to be "deeply concerned".

    If those wasters were anywhere near as concerned, about the other host of crisises going on in this country for decades, as they are about covid, the place mightnt be the banana republic it is...


  • #1578
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Nope, tomorrow's meeting was always scheduled, looks like schools and the 3 counties under restrictions are the main points of discussion.

    You just wont see high levels of compliance with another lockdown and they know it.

    They disscus any recommendations at every meeting

    It's also pointless... lockdown the whole country for several weeks/a month, then reopen and panic when the case numbers inevitably start increasing again? Repeat until a vaccine is developed?

    By the time that happens of course we won't have an economy to speak of, hundreds of thousands unemployed, and people's mental health in tatters - as well as the 800k other issues that aren't being treated.

    Time to accept that spread is inevitable, deaths will unfortunately happen, and target our efforts to those most at risk while encouraging everyone else to take responsibility for their own safety and adhere to the precautions insofar as is practical.


  • #1579
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    It's also pointless... lockdown the whole country for several weeks/a month, then reopen and panic when the case numbers inevitably start increasing again? Repeat until a vaccine is developed?

    By the time that happens of course we won't have an economy to speak of, hundreds of thousands unemployed, and people's mental health in tatters - as well as the 800k other issues that aren't being treated.

    Time to accept that spread is inevitable, deaths will unfortunately happen, and target our efforts to those most at risk while encouraging everyone else to take responsibility for their own safety and adhere to the precautions insofar as is practical.

    Stop making sense:)


  • #1580
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    It's also pointless... lockdown the whole country for several weeks/a month, then reopen and panic when the case numbers inevitably start increasing again? Repeat until a vaccine is developed?

    By the time that happens of course we won't have an economy to speak of, hundreds of thousands unemployed, and people's mental health in tatters - as well as the 800k other issues that aren't being treated.

    Time to accept that spread is inevitable, deaths will unfortunately happen, and target our efforts to those most at risk while encouraging everyone else to take responsibility for their own safety and adhere to the precautions insofar as is practical.



    No it is time to accept that hard lockdown aiming to eradicate is the only thing that will work in the absence of a vaccine.

    Do the hard time to get the good times back.


  • #1581
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    i_surge wrote: »
    No it is time to accept that hard lockdown aiming to eradicate is the only thing that will work in the absence of a vaccine.

    Do the hard time to get the good times back.

    We will see hard times very soon.


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  • #1582
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    The Belly wrote: »
    Stop making sense:)

    He's not...that approach completely discounts the multiplicative nature of the beast. Seems manageable now, sure......;)

    And it still doesn't get around masks and all the other factors that have knocked 80% of the craic out of living.


  • #1583
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gral6


    i_surge wrote: »
    No it is time to accept that hard lockdown aiming to eradicate is the only thing that will work in the absence of a vaccine.

    Do the hard time to get the good times back.

    It does not work. NZ proved it.


  • #1584
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    i_surge wrote: »
    No it is time to accept that hard lockdown aiming to eradicate is the only thing that will work in the absence of a vaccine.

    Do the hard time to get the good times back.

    Lockdown will not eradicate it unless you also plan to close all international travel/airports/ports and severely limit trade at the same time. Oh and close the border with NI

    Nice theory but completely impractical - and futile unless we wait until every other country we travel to/from and trade with gets to zero too.

    Time to face facts.. we can't hide away from this, and crippling the country isn't a solution.


  • #1585
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    gral6 wrote: »
    It does not work. NZ proved it.

    It takes a huge amount of ignorance and bias to say that with a straight face.


  • #1586
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    i_surge wrote: »
    He's not...that approach completely discounts the multiplicative nature of the beast. Seems manageable now, sure......;)

    And it still doesn't get around masks and all the other factors that have knocked 80% of the craic out of living.

    Your going to see the nature of the beast and you cant put it back in the box .


  • #1587
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Lockdown will not eradicate it unless you also plan to close all international travel/airports/ports and severely limit trade at the same time

    Nice theory but completely impractical - and futile unless we wait until every other country we travel to/from and trade with gets to zero too.

    Time to face facts.. we can't hide away from this, and crippling the country isn't a solution.

    Your proposal is both long term impracticable and will cripple the economy, death by 1000 cuts, as well as being depressingly uncertain and impotent.

    Mine is geared for long term success, it takes buy in though which is probably impossible though given the low standards here.

    Closing off travel to all but the essential for a while is a no brainer.


  • #1588
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Will they do county lockdown instead of total lockdown, ie we all stay in our counties but businesses stay open?


  • #1589
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    The Belly wrote: »
    Your going to see the nature of the beast and you cant put it back in the box .

    Incorrect

    The scale of the problem is very different in different countries all depending on the quality of leadership and the public attitude.


  • #1590
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    i_surge wrote: »
    Your proposal is both long term impracticable and will cripple the economy, death by 1000 cuts, as well as being depressingly uncertain and impotent.

    Mine is geared for long term success, it takes buy in though which is probably impossible though given the low standards here.

    Closing off travel to all but the essential for a while is a no brainer.

    Long term success dont make me laugh.


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  • #1591
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    The Belly wrote: »
    Long term success dont make me laugh.

    It is true, if you had the competence and buy in to do it and coming from a low base like Ireland is, it is achievable.

    The ignorance spread in this thread is the main problem, like a virus they are now deeply set emotional beliefs, you don't like restrictions so you lie to yourself that they are pointless and counterproductive.

    Then there is huge economic relative strength to be had + restored quality of life.


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