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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #1502
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    It's literally a case of pulling them out of their beds and testing them in order to pump up those numbers. Such a farce and a con. Convid19

    Where will the heros go?
    What will the MSM write about?
    Housing crisis;)
    They need this to keep going and will keep changing the faces until sombody is going to have no chair when the music stops


  • #1503
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    The Belly wrote: »
    need those numbers up

    0 deaths, maybe 14 in the last 4 weeks despite the spikes. Says it all. And anyone who tries to say it is still something to worry about is a lemming.


  • #1504
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    The Belly wrote: »
    Where will the heros go?
    What will the MSM write about?
    Housing crisis;)
    They need this to keep going and will keep changing the faces until sombody is going to have no chair when the music stops

    Brexit isn't formalised until the end of the year, there would be a gap in misery stories for the guts of 6 months if covid was let run its natural course!


  • #1505
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    2 drinks are enough on a Saturday night for some I'm afraid

    That's all you can come up with when some calls you the nonsense you are spouting, well done.


  • #1506
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Brexit isn't formalised until the end of the year, there would be a gap in misery stories for the guts of 6 months if covid was let run its natural course!

    Who knows we are in unchartered waters now.


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  • #1507
    AUDI20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭AUDI20


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    0 deaths, maybe 14 in the last 4 weeks despite the spikes. Says it all. And anyone who tries to say it is still something to worry about is a lemming.

    Your constant trolling on this thread is embarrassing, or is it Tunnel vision you have


  • #1508
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    I don't ignore the deaths, I accept and understsnd that they are no more likely to die of Covid than of the flu.

    My worry is, we will be on lockdown for the rest of our lives.

    Influenza will be worthy of a lockdown
    Yes but Fintan, everyone with a brain on here knows you have done a thorough risk assessment on yourself to ensure you are not going to become ill from the virus before you got so brave!!!. Id imagine if you thought you would you would be hiding under the bed now. Just my opinion.


  • #1509
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    AUDI20 wrote: »
    Your constant trolling on this thread is embarrassing, or is it Tunnel vision you have

    Wait give it a few more months and see. There is tunnel vision but its the wrong way around.


  • #1510
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    AUDI20 wrote: »
    Your constant trolling on this thread is embarrassing, or is it Tunnel vision you have

    Thats the response to data posts and links to our statistics?

    You are like a flat earther or an anti-vaxxer. Unable to address and interpret stats. Incapable of addressing opinions with sources. Using the word trolling as your reply means you have lost the discussion and I feel even more confident in my assertions given this is the pathetic calibre of response I have to address. Basement dwelling, keyboard warrior.


  • #1511
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    After 146 Days in Lockdown, Argentina’s Virus Problem Is Getting Worse.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-08-12/after-146-days-in-lockdown-argentina-hasn-t-peaked-latam-wrap?__twitter_impression=true

    A 146 day prolonged lockdown in Argentina hasn't worked at all so that's some compelling evidence that lockdowns aren't effective at containing it.


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  • #1512
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Oh just go to bed.


  • #1513
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    After 146 Days in Lockdown, Argentina’s Virus Problem Is Getting Worse.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-08-12/after-146-days-in-lockdown-argentina-hasn-t-peaked-latam-wrap?__twitter_impression=true

    A 146 day prolonged lockdown in Argentina hasn't worked at all so that's some compelling evidence that lockdowns aren't effective at containing it.

    Argentina has bigger problems.


  • #1514
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    What i love about this situation is the predictabilty of it ... they go with whst they perceive to be the easiest choice, they always do here. .. lockdown , except the morons seem to think its a long term solution, we are a few months out from the band of fools , being put in very awkward positions for an extended period of time... they created the situation,without any thought for even a few months down the road... let them deal with the fall out. Theyll be dealing with covid situation and the financial clusterfcuk amongst others that they created, at the same time! Lol!

    Stopped watching the news months ago , ill be tuning in to watch the squirming rats again, post budget! Can then also enjoy the delicious irony of the pro lockdown rte , criticise the government, for the damage the extent of the kockdown has caused! Comedy !

    And if all this doom mongering that you keep spewing out does come to pass I suppose you will be coming back here to gloat about it just as you stated some time ago despite the fact that you yourself recently voted for the very same " band of fools" and the "squirming rats"., What does that double standard say about you and your gang? Pathetic ranting bull****.


  • #1515
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    And if all this doom mongering that you keep spewing out does come to pass I suppose you will be coming back here to gloat about it just as you stated some time ago despite the fact that you yourself recently voted for the very same " band of fools" and the "squirming rats"., What does that double standard say about you and your gang? Pathetic ranting bull****.

    You offer nothing to the debate.


  • #1516
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    Yes but Fintan, everyone with a brain on here knows you have done a thorough risk assessment on yourself to ensure you are not going to become ill from the virus before you got so brave!!!. Id imagine if you thought you would you would be hiding under the bed now. Just my opinion.

    Yes Betty.

    PM me if you want to hide with me


  • #1517
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Oh just go to bed.

    I actually look forward to your post's


  • #1518
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    The Belly wrote: »
    You offer nothing to the debate.

    Coming from the likes of you I take that as a compliment.


  • #1519
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Coming from the likes of you I take that as a compliment.

    well thats good.


  • #1520
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    And if all this doom mongering that you keep spewing out does come to pass I suppose you will be coming back here to gloat about it just as you stated some time ago despite the fact that you yourself recently voted for the very same " band of fools" and the "squirming rats"., What does that double standard say about you and your gang? Pathetic ranting bull****.

    Ill be coming back to gloat, not because im some warren buffet, but because of how idiotic, purposefully triggering a recession of magnitude was!

    Ive saved towards a rainy day fund for years now. Expected another recession from incompetence, cant say i saw it coming about in the way it has....


  • #1521
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Ive saved towards a rainy day fund for years now. Expected another recession from incompetence, cant say i saw it coming about in the way it has....

    How the fcuk could anyone with a functioning brain have seen the hysterical nonsense taking control. This is unprecedented


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  • #1522
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Maybe in the Vulnerable groups who would normally get a flu vaccine

    Nope as an overall number. No matter how many times computing forever and the like say it is just like the flu, the seasonal flu kills 0.1% of those infected Covid 19 kills between 0.5% and 0.7%


  • #1523
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    snotboogie wrote: »
    Nope as an overall number. No matter how many times computing forever and the like say it is just like the flu, the seasonal flu kills 0.1% of those infected Covid 19 kills between 0.5% and 0.7%


    have you stats for that boloxoligy


  • #1524
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    have you stats for that boloxoligy

    Serological testing of a representative random sample of the population to detect evidence of exposure to a pathogen is an important method to estimate the true number of infected individuals [7,8,9]. Many such serological surveys are currently being undertaken worldwide [10], and some have thus far suggested substantial under-ascertainment of cases, with estimates of IFR converging at approximately 0.5 - 1% [10-12].
    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/estimating-mortality-from-covid-19

    CFR of Common Diseases
    Specific CFRs of particular diseases if left untreated or unvaccinated for include:

    Bubonic Plague – 60%
    Spanish Flu (1918) – 2.5%
    Ebola – 90%
    Naegleriasis – >99%
    Smallpox – 95%
    Seasonal Influenza – 0.1%
    https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-Case-Fatality-Rate-(CFR).aspx


  • #1525
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,388 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    have you stats for that boloxoligy
    This site mentions the 0.5-1% figure.
    I am sure there are other better sources.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01738-2

    I think most people agree it is much more deadly than the season flu.


  • #1526
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    gmisk wrote: »
    This site mentions the 0.5-1% figure.
    I am sure there are other better sources.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01738-2

    I think most people agree it is much more deadly than the season flu.

    That website is the equivalent of the cartoon network


  • #1527
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,388 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    That website is the equivalent of the cartoon network
    Then maybe look at the other links already posted just before mine?
    The WHO link backs up the same figure.


  • #1528
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Ill be coming back to gloat, not because im some warren buffet, but because of how idiotic, purposefully triggering a recession of magnitude was!

    Ive saved towards a rainy day fund for years now. Expected another recession from incompetence, cant say i saw it coming about in the way it has....

    A recession is coming no matter what. Opening the economy will do nothing. People won't be going to packed restaurants. Offices and businesses won't suddenly just open and hire thousands of staff, businesses and and offices are open and they're operating at a reduced level, opening the economy won't magically increase levels. Shops are open in the city centre and they're not packed, and telling people they can go won't fix that.

    We made a balls of the phases and now the government don't have any idea what to do


  • #1529
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    A recession is coming no matter what. Opening the economy will do nothing. People won't be going to packed restaurants. Offices and businesses won't suddenly just open and hire thousands of staff, businesses and and offices are open and they're operating at a reduced level, opening the economy won't magically increase levels. Shops are open in the city centre and they're not packed, and telling people they can go won't fix that.

    We made a balls of the phases and now the government don't have any idea what to do

    A recession may have been inevitable, they have brought one hell of a one, coming soon! A life is now worth billions seemingly.... this entire episode is likely to hammer home the entire unchecked madness of the damage a groupthink media and most of the population, damage that it can create!


  • #1530
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    A recession is coming no matter what. Opening the economy will do nothing. People won't be going to packed restaurants. Offices and businesses won't suddenly just open and hire thousands of staff, businesses and and offices are open and they're operating at a reduced level, opening the economy won't magically increase levels. Shops are open in the city centre and they're not packed, and telling people they can go won't fix that.

    We made a balls of the phases and now the government don't have any idea what to do

    People are pouring back into the restaurants and pubs from what I can see. Loads of demand there. Here in D5 you have to have a restaurant well booked in advance. Local pubs very busy too.


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  • #1531
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,858 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    JRant wrote: »
    Even if a vaccine is found soon, say Q1 of 2021, how long do people actually think it will take to me mass produced, and administered to the people in this country?
    We are way down the pecking order in terms of global influence, to even think we will be in the first few rounds of batches is laughable. It could be well into 2022 before we start to have any meaningful mass vaccination program here.

    Indeed. Only way I see that happening earlier is if some of our local factories producing vaccines can contract it in from whatever company ultimately registers an effective one (assuming they don't already have a plant here). Other than that we haven’t a prayer.
    There’s way too much “hope” being placed on a vaccine coming around soon anyhow- too many people thinking we can go on with mass lockdowns until then and all live happily ever after


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