Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Penfailed wrote: »

No, the issue that I have is that people like Fintan completely ignore the small percentage of deaths in those categories. They don't even acknowledge them. They make blanket statements that are factually inaccurate.

I don't ignore the deaths, I accept and understsnd that they are no more likely to die of Covid than of the flu.

My worry is, we will be on lockdown for the rest of our lives.

Influenza will be worthy of a lockdown

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I don't ignore the deaths, I accept and understsnd that they are no more likely to die of Covid than of the flu.

My worry is, we will be on lockdown for the rest of our lives.

Influenza will be worthy of a lockdown

What lockdown

Micky 32 wrote: »

We won’t be. Firstly the country won’t be able to afford it. We’ll adapt and life will find a way. Vaccines are looking promising too.

The fact the country can't afford it doesn't influence the decision to lockdown.

NPHET are in charge and couldn't give a sh#t that Ireland is rapidly going broke

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Indeed sounds like 1930’s Germany.

This virus has taken the vulnerable and terrible as it is it definitely expediated their demise. It is obvious now with with 4 times the worldwide infections and no increase in mortality that this illness is on the wane.

snowcat wrote: »

This virus has taken the vulnerable and terrible as it is it definitely expediated their demise. It is obvious now with with 4 times the worldwide infections and no increase in mortality that this illness is on the wain.

One of the food production facilities had 87 positive cases, 84 of which were asymptomatic.

84 people out of 87 healthy enough to attend work had no idea they were "sick".

Vulnerable people died early on, for almost everyone else its not even a flu

It's not a pandemic anymore it's now a casedemic. Just look at the hospitalisation numbers and the ICU numbers and you'll see that the situation is well under control but, they'll keep banging on about the increasing case numbers to keep the hysteria going.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The fact the country can't afford it doesn't influence the decision to lockdown.

NPHET are in charge and couldn't give a sh#t that Ireland is rapidly going broke

Probably very true...but the dissent will ramp up 100% if the supports people have been used to so far are reduced. When you box yourself into a corner and can only see Lockdown down the tunnel then you create this mess.
If anything it’s getting worse- business largely took it on the chin March to June...however as we’ve from LOK they’re no longer (and very rightly in my opinion) going to tolerate government imposed losses. The “In it together “ illusion is fading very fast

Sconsey wrote: »

How are you coming up with this nonsense? Do you think all the elderly in the county have been wiped out? all the people with existing conditions are already dead?

There are still huge numbers of potential Covid victims out there. Christ this thread is some echo-chamber.

You should go to the other one...it’s packed to the gills with perma panicked “we’re all gona die” types. You’ll be right at home!

CalamariFritti wrote: »

It may be a bit early to say that for definite but there are growing indicators this could be true. What really bugs me is that we hardly seem to make any effort to find out. We seem much more interested in talking it up all the time.

Panic and fear are much sexier media bedfellows than calm, rational reasoned common sense based on the actual stats

Daily figures the new religion, Nphet the new gods

Sconsey wrote: »

How are you coming up with this nonsense? Do you think all the elderly in the county have been wiped out? all the people with existing conditions are already dead?

There are still huge numbers of potential Covid victims out there. Christ this thread is some echo-chamber.

I said vulnerable, not all elderly are vulnerable.

Also if you are fit to go to work, you have an 84 out of 87 chance of not being sick in any way, even though you will return a positive test.

Try out the main thread, I imagine it would more suitable

road_high wrote: »

You should go to the other one...it’s packed to the gills with perma panicked “we’re all gona die” types. You’ll be right at home!

Yeah will do, looks like the armchair experts here have it all figured out. Must kill you that the real experts are calling the shots not you

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Care to explain how there has only been 12 deaths over the last 4 weeks since July 24th. If there are so many potential victims of covid out there why hasn't there been a big increase in deaths?

Oh I dunno, I don't claim to be an expert but at a guess maybe because:
- There are less vulnerable people getting it right now compared to April/May, younger people are the bulk of those being infected.
- Vulnerable are more informed and able to take better precautions
- Possibly better therapeutic care available

What's your theory? the virus is miraculously not harmful anymore? there are no more vulnerable people left?

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I said vulnerable, not all elderly are vulnerable.

Also if you are fit to go to work, you have an 84 out of 87 chance of not being sick in any way, even though you will return a positive test.

Try out the main thread, I imagine it would more suitable

Ehhhhh the HSE disagree with your medical analysis of who is vulnerable, are you a doctor?
So the results from one meat plant form the basis of all your stats, makes sense :rolleyes:
And what is it are you saying anyway? those people might be ok, what about all the people they could spread it to, will they be fine too?

I get it, this thread is better suited to the small bunch that are happy to repeat the same story, this thread is not for opposing opinions. Better to accuse them of being panic merchants and hope they leave you alone yeah?

What i love about this situation is the predictabilty of it ... they go with whst they perceive to be the easiest choice, they always do here. .. lockdown , except the morons seem to think its a long term solution, we are a few months out from the band of fools , being put in very awkward positions for an extended period of time... they created the situation,without any thought for even a few months down the road... let them deal with the fall out. Theyll be dealing with covid situation and the financial clusterfcuk amongst others that they created, at the same time! Lol!

Stopped watching the news months ago , ill be tuning in to watch the squirming rats again, post budget! Can then also enjoy the delicious irony of the pro lockdown rte , criticise the government, for the damage the extent of the kockdown has caused! Comedy !

Sconsey wrote: »

Yeah will do, looks like the armchair experts here have it all figured out. Must kill you that the real experts are calling the shots not you


Oh I dunno, I don't claim to be an expert but at a guess maybe because:
- There are less vulnerable people getting it right now compared to April/May, younger people are the bulk of those being infected.
- Vulnerable are more informed and able to take better precautions
- Possibly better therapeutic care available

What's your theory? the virus is miraculously not harmful anymore? there are no more vulnerable people left?




Ehhhhh the HSE disagree with your medical analysis of who is vulnerable, are you a doctor?
So the results from one meat plant form the basis of all your stats, makes sense :rolleyes:
And what is it are you saying anyway? those people might be ok, what about all the people they could spread it to, will they be fine too?

I get it, this thread is better suited to the small bunch that are happy to repeat the same story, this thread is not for opposing opinions. Better to accuse them of being panic merchants and hope they leave you alone yeah?

2 drinks are enough on a Saturday night for some I'm afraid

Assetbacked wrote: »

It's literally a case of pulling them out of their beds and testing them in order to pump up those numbers. Such a farce and a con. Convid19

need those numbers up