2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ohnonotgmail · 15-08-2020 09:05PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No I'm not talking talking nonsense she did say it, educate yourself before having a go at me.

well then put up a source that confirms it.

gmisk · 15-08-2020 09:05PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No I'm not talking talking nonsense she did say it, educate yourself before having a go at me.

She said it a few weeks ago according to you? So give us a link.

Tell me how · 15-08-2020 09:06PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

I also believe that the articulate liberal class do not understand what is happening and often resort to a kind of condescending attitude to those who they can't understand (in general I mean)...but what is happening is the people the leadership of major political parties are supposed to be representing have sent a very clear message...calling them deplorables is typical of that articulate liberal class!!!

What is this very clear message?

Hillary won the popular vote by 3M in 2016, so, at that point, the majority of the people in the US did not want Trump as President.

Now, he is, and deservedly so as he won the electoral college system which determines who ends up in the White House but this vague rhetoric about 'the people' and silent majority has no basis in evidence?

I have no problem in saying that I find some of the advocates of Trumps ideas to be deplorable because for the most part it is rooted in a desire for their lifestyles to be protected irrespective of who else has too suffer as a consequence of that. Hence the angle he took with telling suburbanites that he would protect their neighbourhoods recently. That was a message coming from the President of the United States. One who supposedly has the support of many who would live in lower class neighbourhoods and yet we have people here telling us that he is their guy.

As for the support for Sanders at this point, I take it with a pinch of salt. Sanders is all for the BLM movement and the Green New Deal. Lets see people supporting those ideals on threads dedicated to them and I'll start to believe they would support Sanders if he was still in the mix.

dwayneshintzy · 15-08-2020 09:06PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No I'm not talking talking nonsense she did say it, educate yourself before having a go at me.

I'm not having a go, what you said was complete nonsense. The fact that you won't back up what you've said, demonstrates that.

Galwayguy35 · 15-08-2020 09:07PM

gmisk wrote: »

A few weeks ago? You have a link to that? Thanks.

The only thing I can find is from April 2019....

Well thats when I heard it on the news, fair enough it was last year but she did say it and now has changed her mind.

ohnonotgmail · 15-08-2020 09:07PM

Tell me how wrote: »

What is this very clear message?

Hillary won the popular vote by 3M in 2016, so, at that point, the majority of the people in the US did not want Trump as President.

Now, he is, and deservedly so as he won the electoral college system which determines who ends up in the White House but this vague rhetoric about 'the people' and silent majority has no basis in evidence?

I have no problem in saying that I find some of the advocates of Trumps ideas to be deplorable because for the most part it is rooted in a desire for their lifestyles to be protected irrespective of who else has too suffer as a consequence of that. Hence the angle he took with telling suburbanites that he would protect their neighbourhoods recently. That was a message coming from the President of the United States. One who supposedly has the support of many who would live in lower class neighbourhoods and yet we have people here telling us that he is their guy.

As for the support for Sanders at this point, I take it with a pinch of salt. Sanders is all for the BLM movement and the Green New Deal. Lets see people supporting those ideals on threads dedicated to them and I'll start to believe they would support Sanders if he was still in the mix.

if it was Sanders on the ticket they would be decrying him as a commie.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-08-2020 09:07PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No I'm not talking talking nonsense she did say it, educate yourself before having a go at me.

You made a claim, the onus is on you to provide evidence for the claim when asked

Tell me how · 15-08-2020 09:08PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Kamala Harris was saying only a few weeks ago the claims against Sleepy Joe were credible and now she has no problem running as his VP, haven't seen her challenged on why she changed her mind about him.

Any comments she made about him were at the time when she was on the ticket for the Presidential nominee, which was months ago, and so it pretty much is a free for all at that point. Obama did the same about Hillary on 2008 and then made her secretary for state.

But seeing as it bothers you, do you want to go through the before and after comments from Trump about Cohen, Bolton, Bannon, Tillerson (and them about him) and examine those in the context of his 'I hire the best people' claim.

Silentcorner · 15-08-2020 09:09PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

What does this mean?

Another "feeling" that will be impossible to challenge?

Calm down....

I think Biden should be enjoying his time with the grandkids and not running for the highest office in the country, he is clearly deteriorating and if the pandemic were not allowing him a handy excuse, it would be cruel to subject that man to a Presidential election, that is what I mean....now that is my opinion, which you asked for....if you don't like it go f##k yourself!

Galwayguy35 · 15-08-2020 09:10PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You made a claim, the onus is on you to provide evidence for the claim when asked

I was watching Sky news when it was mentioned, I doubt Sky are just making it up

ohnonotgmail · 15-08-2020 09:10PM

gmisk wrote: »

A few weeks ago? You have a link to that? Thanks.

The only thing I can find is from April 2019....

what did she actually say?

drunkmonkey · 15-08-2020 09:11PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Kamala Harris was saying only a few weeks ago the claims against Sleepy Joe were credible and now she has no problem running as his VP, haven't seen her challenged on why she changed her mind about him.

It was over a year ago but your correct. https://finance.yahoo.com/video/sen-kamala-harris-says-believe-181901449.html

Tell me how · 15-08-2020 09:12PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I was watching Sky news when it was mentioned, I doubt Sky are just making it up

This is up there with Trumps 'Many people say' style of flat out lying.

dwayneshintzy · 15-08-2020 09:12PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Calm down....

I think Biden should be enjoying his time with the grandkids and not running for the highest office in the country, he is clearly deteriorating and if the pandemic were not allowing him a handy excuse, it would be cruel to subject that man to a Presidential election, that is what I mean....now that is my opinion, which you asked for....if you don't like it go f##k yourself!

Quite impressive telling me to calm down, AND to go f##k myself in the same post

Galwayguy35 · 15-08-2020 09:13PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Any comments she made about him were at the time when she was on the ticket for the Presidential nominee, which was months ago, and so it pretty much is a free for all at that point. Obama did the same about Hillary on 2008 and then made her secretary for state.

But seeing as it bothers you, do you want to go through the before and after comments from Trump about Cohen, Bolton, Bannon, Tillerson (and them about him) and examine those in the context of his 'I hire the best people' claim.

No but people here are suggesting i just made it up, I admitted I was wrong in the time period in my previous post but she did say it.

gmisk · 15-08-2020 09:15PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what did she actually say?

Snopes have a decent summary of it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-believe-biden-accusers/

He did also apologise.

It was April 2019 when she said it.

What's True
On April 2, 2019, Harris said "I believe them," in reference to four women who had by then accused Biden of inappropriate touching.

What's False
Harris has not said that she believes all of Biden's accusers, in particular Tara Reade, who, almost one year after Harris' remarks, accused Biden of raping her. When questioned about Reade's allegations, Harris did not say that she believed them.

Silentcorner · 15-08-2020 09:20PM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Quite impressive telling me to calm down, AND to go f##k myself in the same post

Well, don't be condescending I will extend the same courtesy...

ohnonotgmail · 15-08-2020 09:22PM

gmisk wrote: »

Snopes have a decent summary of it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-believe-biden-accusers/

He did also apologise.

It was April 2019 when she said it.

What's True
On April 2, 2019, Harris said "I believe them," in reference to four women who had by then accused Biden of inappropriate touching.

What's False
Harris has not said that she believes all of Biden's accusers, in particular Tara Reade, who, almost one year after Harris' remarks, accused Biden of raping her. When questioned about Reade's allegations, Harris did not say that she believed them.

this is a link to the video that somebody shared. she says "I believe him" not "I believe them".is there a different video?

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/sen-kamala-harris-says-believe-181901449.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYm9hcmRzLmllL3ZidWxsZXRpbi9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD90PTIwNTgwOTk2NTEmcGFnZT01MA&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN2PFOb46SfcVKVLbBcl-FTXf_H5goBofvTISToCxuehyxv-Dx4PYDxeK8Jcd0KurBxuBxDXkpKJK9lvrMM7_J3UXGLpnmQKtQizxfO2_B_Y1TQvKEUp5d7pta4jcC03GC4Ttt1dvFpcCESJ5A8KUHvglqckVTrNn23ZvmszqsVb&_guc_consent_skip=1597522793

gmisk · 15-08-2020 09:26PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this is a link to the video that somebody shared. she says "I believe him" not "I believe them".is there a different video?

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/sen-kamala-harris-says-believe-181901449.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYm9hcmRzLmllL3ZidWxsZXRpbi9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD90PTIwNTgwOTk2NTEmcGFnZT01MA&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN2PFOb46SfcVKVLbBcl-FTXf_H5goBofvTISToCxuehyxv-Dx4PYDxeK8Jcd0KurBxuBxDXkpKJK9lvrMM7_J3UXGLpnmQKtQizxfO2_B_Y1TQvKEUp5d7pta4jcC03GC4Ttt1dvFpcCESJ5A8KUHvglqckVTrNn23ZvmszqsVb&_guc_consent_skip=1597522793

It says I believe him in subtitles but I am pretty sure it's them she says.

It's a real mountain out of a molehill imo, it was also a fair while ago and he apologised.

Cody montana · 15-08-2020 09:32PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Calm down....

I think Biden should be enjoying his time with the grandkids and not running for the highest office in the country, he is clearly deteriorating and if the pandemic were not allowing him a handy excuse, it would be cruel to subject that man to a Presidential election, that is what I mean....now that is my opinion, which you asked for....if you don't like it go f##k yourself!

Just to quote you earlier.

“I never said you were...I'm just asking you a question, feel free to throw a cleverly disguised insult at me for asking you that question or just ignore me, whatever it's just an online forum, and it is just a question.“

Silentcorner · 15-08-2020 09:34PM

Cody montana wrote: »

Just to quote you earlier.

“I never said you were...I'm just asking you a question, feel free to throw a cleverly disguised insult at me for asking you that question or just ignore me, whatever it's just an online forum, and it is just a question.“

In case you haven't noticed, if you are not on board with Orange man bad on here, you get a lot of flack...so you fight flack with flack!

Beasty · 15-08-2020 09:34PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Calm down....

I think Biden should be enjoying his time with the grandkids and not running for the highest office in the country, he is clearly deteriorating and if the pandemic were not allowing him a handy excuse, it would be cruel to subject that man to a Presidential election, that is what I mean....now that is my opinion, which you asked for....if you don't like it go f##k yourself!

Threadbanned

dwayneshintzy · 15-08-2020 09:37PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed, if you are not on board with Orange man bad on here, you get a lot of flack...so you fight flack with flack!

What an absolutely childish attitude this post displays.

Nobody has said "orange man bad"; they've been quite reasoned posts to you asking for evidence to support your views. Your view is that your "feelings" shouldn't be challenged.

"Fight flack with flack".......just a reminder that you told me to go f##k myself. Where did I say anything similar?

Tell me how · 15-08-2020 09:48PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed, if you are not on board with Orange man bad on here, you get a lot of flack...so you fight flack with flack!

More like if you can't counter the evidence offered to demonstrate Trump is incapable and inadequate with evidence of your own, all you can do is get aggressive. As he does himself.

weisses · 15-08-2020 09:59PM

Orange man is bad!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGX2XTNfXLM

He is beyond pathetic at this stage

duploelabs · 15-08-2020 10:29PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was over a year ago but your correct. https://finance.yahoo.com/video/sen-kamala-harris-says-believe-181901449.html

But sure, we've all seen that video of Lyndsey Graham's views on Trump

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-08-2020 10:39PM

God he just drones on at his pressers, talks loads and says nothing.

Cody montana · 15-08-2020 11:27PM

BREAKING: Israel Has Just Bombarded The Gaza Strip For The Fifth Night In A Row.

Middle East peace plan going well.

LessOutragePlz · 15-08-2020 11:29PM

Cody montana wrote: »

BREAKING: Israel Has Just Bombarded The Gaza Strip For The Fifth Night In A Row.

Middle East peace plan going well.

The deal was between the UAE and Israel but you already knew that.

Cody montana · 15-08-2020 11:36PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

The deal was between the UAE and Israel but you already knew that.

Who aren’t at war, so it’s pointless.

The real issues are Israel, Palestine and Iran.

This is what needs solving.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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