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So are you single? Argos style....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He wants a ride, she wants some free money.

    She wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    If he’d been good looking she would have cracked her pelvis opening her legs for him... but when he’s ugly, its creepy and she feels unsafe..
    You have a truly horrible view of woman...I am sure your mother would be extremely proud


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    You have a truly horrible view of woman...I am sure your mother would be extremely proud

    It was a very crude way of putting it but they have a point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    It was a very crude way of putting it but they have a point.


    They don’t have a point. What they’re saying isn’t any different than saying a guy would bend over and take it up the arse if the guy was good looking, but if he’s ugly they wouldn’t.

    That poster might be indiscriminate in who they’ll bend over for, but that doesn’t mean their standards apply to anyone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    It's extremely creepy behaviour, fair play to her for taking a stand.

    If you don't think it's creepy take a step back and genuinely consider how weird you'd feel if you got an unsolicited text from a random delivery man asking about your relationship status, knowing he knows where you live. If you're a man, don't gender flip it, imagine getting the text from another man. It's fúcking weird and there's no getting around it.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They don’t have a point. What they’re saying isn’t any different than saying a guy would bend over and take it up the arse if the guy was good looking, but if he’s ugly they wouldn’t.

    That poster might be indiscriminate in who they’ll bend over for, but that doesn’t mean their standards apply to anyone else.

    Your way of saying it is overly crude too but the point is still there.

    Creepy things suddenly become a whole lot less creepy when it’s someone good looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,602 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I've said already he should have introduced himself in the first text so she knew who it was, but if he had done, would it still be as bad?

    But was it that ****ty a thing to do? If so, any interaction where people met in a professional environment could be said to be inappropriate.

    Is that so where things are at?

    Yes it would be as bad. He took a phone number he obtained in a professional capacity and used it for non work purposes. I take phone numbers in work all the time and if I or any staff male or female used them for any reason other than a professional ones it would be a sacking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    It's creepy asking someone for a date now? How do people meet these days, by hiding in their snowflake world expecting some fantasy.
    The same women are watching Hollywood movies where the guy turns up at their work place and whisks them away. Them they complain about something like that happening in reality.
    Oh it's creepy boo hoo.
    Get some cats and shut the fck up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Your way of saying it is overly crude too but the point is still there.

    Creepy things suddenly become a whole lot less creepy when it’s someone good looking.


    They don’t. The idea that someone is attractive doesn’t make their creepy behaviour any less creepy. That’s the point of saying that it doesn’t matter whether the person is attractive or not, the point is about their behaviour.

    Like what’s the point in saying if the person is attracted to the guy they wouldn’t complain? So what? Is a person somehow at fault for thinking the guys a creep and not giving him the ride or something? It’s entirely his own fault for doing what he did, she’s not in any way at fault for what he did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,379 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    It's creepy asking someone for a date now? How do people meet these days, by hiding in their snowflake world expecting some fantasy.
    The same women are watching Hollywood movies where the guy turns up at their work place and whisks them away. Them they complain about something like that happening in reality.
    Oh it's creepy boo hoo.
    Get some cats and shut the fck up.

    I suggest you look up the definition of a 'strawman arguement', it might help avoid future pitfalls in your reasoning.

    Nobody is saying it's creepy to ask someone for a date, why? Because that would be a ridiculous notion.

    What people are saying it is is creepy to abuse your position in work to obtain a phone number and use it for personal reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    It's extremely creepy behaviour, fair play to her for taking a stand.

    If you don't think it's creepy take a step back and genuinely consider how weird you'd feel if you got an unsolicited text from a random delivery man asking about your relationship status, knowing he knows where you live. If you're a man, don't gender flip it, imagine getting the text from another man. It's fúcking weird and there's no getting around it.
    Taking a stand would be to ignore, block the number and move on with your life.

    This is just attention seeking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    It's creepy asking someone for a date now? How do people meet these days, by hiding in their snowflake world expecting some fantasy.
    The same women are watching Hollywood movies where the guy turns up at their work place and whisks them away. Them they complain about something like that happening in reality.
    Oh it's creepy boo hoo.
    Get some cats and shut the fck up.
    He took the phone number which the person had provided to a private company, he shouldn't have done it, it's creepy as hell imo, and he deserves to get fired.
    It wasn't some hollywood meet cute, whatever way you want to dress things up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    He has her address too, like. Who’s to say she didn’t get a creepy predator vibe from him.
    I bet there was also 0% flirting from her side too. Some lads need to read the fkn room and realise not every woman who interacts with them is after their dick.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Your way of saying it is overly crude too but the point is still there.

    Creepy things suddenly become a whole lot less creepy when it’s someone good looking.

    I think a blind dogs with a stick up his arse could see that the inference was that if a woman finds a man attractive, she will see an approach as appropriate and somewhat exciting. The exact same approach would be deemed as creepy if the woman didn't find the man attractive.

    This also fits into Jack's example too, just change the gender of the person being approached.

    No need for fighting.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fatknacker wrote: »
    He has her address too, like. Who’s to say she didn’t get a creepy predator vibe from him.
    I bet there was also 0% flirting from her side too. Some lads need to read the fkn room and realise not every woman who interacts with them is after their dick.

    Some others also need to read the room; not every lad who asks you out is a rapist or a predator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I suggest you look up the definition of a 'strawman arguement', it might help avoid future pitfalls in your reasoning.

    Nobody is saying it's creepy to ask someone for a date, why? Because that would be a ridiculous notion.

    What people are saying it is is creepy to abuse your position in work to obtain a phone number and use it for personal reasons.

    It's just the way people think now. Back in the day you'd have people giving your number to guys who fancied you. Yes he was in work but she has ruined any chance now of him having a job, he might have rent to pay etc. It's an overreaction. She didn't have to make it such a big deal. All she had to say was no thanks and leave it at that. It's crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    He had consent to use her phone number only in relation to the package he was delivering. The creepy part of his behaviour was taking her number from his work environment and using it in his personal life.

    This guy asking a woman out is not the issue. The issue is the abuse of data provided for a different purpose.

    Should people not expect that companies will use their data responsibly? Should employees not be expected to adhere to the laws related to data protection?

    She was dead right to complain. Why the **** does it matter what method ahe used to complain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Some others also need to read the room; not every lad who asks you out is a rapist or a predator.

    A guy who illegally takes your phone number to text you asking if you’re single while alone in a house is not exactly right in the head.

    Also I didn’t say anyone approaching someone could be treated as a rapist or predator. Some are tho...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    It's just the way people think now. Back in the day you'd have people giving your number to guys who fancied you. Yes he was in work but she has ruined any chance now of him having a job, he might have rent to pay etc. It's an overreaction. She didn't have to make it such a big deal. All she had to say was no thanks and leave it at that. It's crazy.

    How is SHE responsible for the consequences of HIS behaviour?

    Weird attitude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    It's just the way people think now. Back in the day you'd have people giving your number to guys who fancied you. Yes he was in work but she has ruined any chance now of him having a job, he might have rent to pay etc. It's an overreaction. She didn't have to make it such a big deal. All she had to say was no thanks and leave it at that. It's crazy.


    She didn’t ruin anything. He did that all by himself.

    What you’re talking about is teenagers, we make allowances for them doing stupid shìt. Grown adults? Not so much, especially when they absolutely know better but decide to do it anyway.

    Is that the kind of service people are supposed to expect now from Argos when they order something for delivery? The delivery man contacting them later on to ask them how’s that new sofa or some shìte? It’s not 20 years ago and he’s not a teenager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    The majority attitude of this thread is weird tbh. Bet most of yous would be livid if it happened to your partners while alone in the house, but because it’s a random woman she’s over reacting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    She didn’t ruin anything. He did that all by himself.

    What you’re talking about is teenagers, we make allowances for them doing stupid shìt. Grown adults? Not so much, especially when they absolutely know better but decide to do it anyway.

    Is that the kind of service people are supposed to expect now from Argos when they order something for delivery? The delivery man contacting them later on to ask them how’s that new sofa or some shìte? It’s not 20 years ago and he’s not a teenager.

    Says yourman. You're in no position to talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    It's creepy asking someone for a date now? How do people meet these days, by hiding in their snowflake world expecting some fantasy.
    The same women are watching Hollywood movies where the guy turns up at their work place and whisks them away. Them they complain about something like that happening in reality.
    Oh it's creepy boo hoo.
    Get some cats and shut the fck up.

    This post is all over the place tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    loalae wrote: »
    How is SHE responsible for the consequences of HIS behaviour?

    Weird attitude.

    Don't you get it, she's supposed to be flattered. Obviously he wasn't handsome, because if he had been she would immediately have slept with this total stranger. Cos we're like that. All of us are completely amoral sluts who only care about appearances and money and would sleep with any handsome stranger regardless of our values, beliefs(cos we don't really have any) and commitments to anyone else. The poor guy only broke the law and company policy, he should in no way be deemed unsuitable for similar employment ever again. What a b1tch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Don't you get it, she's supposed to be flattered. Obviously he wasn't handsome, because if he had been she would immediately have slept with this total stranger. Cos we're like that. All of us are completely amoral sluts who only care about appearances and money and would sleep with any handsome stranger regardless of our values, beliefs(cos we don't really have any) and commitments to anyone else. The poor guy only broke the law and company policy, he should in no way be deemed unsuitable for similar employment ever again. What a b1tch!

    Oh silly me! Thanks for reminding me of her place!

    Of course his job is more important than her data protection. Especially when she had the gall to order something to be delivered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    loalae wrote: »
    Oh silly me! Thanks for reminding me of her place!

    Of course his job is more important than her data protection. Especially when she had the gall to order something to be delivered.

    I know like! What did she expect? A professional service and appropriate behaviour or something? How dare she expect her personal data to be used only for the reasons guaranteed by the company. I mean, just who does she think she is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    loalae wrote: »
    Oh silly me! Thanks for reminding me of her place!

    Of course his job is more important than her data protection. Especially when she had the gall to order something to be delivered.

    What are the pair of ye on about? This isn't the front line in some sort of battle of the sexes.
    Fatknacker (dunno how that username is allowed!) made a good point, image it was your partner/daughter. Apply the same logic to yer man, what would your reaction be then?
    Data protection? It's the new health and safety. There was a time one couldn't bend over to pick up a box of screws without hearing "health and safety". There is a GDPR issue here alright however it's higher up the food chain than this hapless idiot. Is there really a need to a persons phone number to be on a parcel? Anyone along the supply chain could get it.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    Feisar wrote: »
    What are the pair of ye on about? This isn't the front line in some sort of battle of the sexes.
    Fatknacker (dunno how that username is allowed!) made a good point, image it was your partner/daughter. Apply the same logic to yer man, what would your reaction be then?
    Data protection? It's the new health and safety. There was a time one couldn't bend over to pick up a box of screws without hearing "health and safety". There is a GDPR issue here alright however it's higher up the food chain than this hapless idiot. Is there really a need to a persons phone number to be on a parcel? Anyone along the supply chain could get it.

    Well I was being sarcastic and I think sardonicat may have been as well.

    Do you really think that people lower down in organisations shouldn't have access to phone numbers? The vast majority or delivery drivers do not do this kind of thing and, in my view, it's not too much to expect a worker to not use a phone number provided for one purpose to get a date.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Feisar wrote: »
    What are the pair of ye on about? This isn't the front line in some sort of battle of the sexes.
    Fatknacker (dunno how that username is allowed!) made a good point, image it was your partner/daughter. Apply the same logic to yer man, what would your reaction be then?
    Data protection? It's the new health and safety. There was a time one couldn't bend over to pick up a box of screws without hearing "health and safety". There is a GDPR issue here alright however it's higher up the food chain than this hapless idiot. Is there really a need to a persons phone number to be on a parcel? Anyone along the supply chain could get it.

    Have a little look at some of the posts on here claiming if he was good looking she would have been delighted 'spread her legs and cracked her pelvis open for him, as one poster delicately put it) and blaming her for him losing his job.

    I agree, it's a GDPR issue. Drivers are often given your number in case there is an issue with delivery, even if it's not on the package to be delivered and because they are professional and not idiots they use that information appropriately.


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