FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

spygirl · 08-08-2020 10:33AM

Fedone wrote: »

Heads up for anyone who hasn’t done exams in the RDS before, the traffic heading for ballsbridge at 9am on a weekday has always been awful (not sure if Covid has helped this but I’m assuming it’s hasn’t to be on the safe side). If you’re driving I would definitely advise leaving earlier and sitting in the car park to look over notes, have a coffee, etc. Has saved me so much stress being there super early instead of sitting in traffic worrying about making it there in time

My general plan is as above, Is there a good coffee shop out there anyone know? They could make a nice few quid of coffee from us if the facility exists. Otherwise it will have to a flask in the car. not doing a two day donkey trek for my fix that morning.

Rainbow25 · 08-08-2020 10:35AM

Just got a reply from the Law society confirming that the exams are going ahead Tuesday and Thursday!

lawgrad15 · 08-08-2020 10:44AM

spygirl wrote: »

My general plan is as above, Is there a good coffee shop out there anyone know? They could make a nice few quid of coffee from us if the facility exists. Otherwise it will have to a flask in the car. not doing a two day donkey trek for my fix that morning.

If you're parking near Simmonscourt, there's a coffee dock in the Clayton Hotel which is a short walk away.

Otherwise, there's an Insomnia in Ballsbridge and there's a Butlers and Starbucks on Shelbourne Road. There are possibly other coffee shops too but those are all I can think of. Not sure what way their opening hours are with covid.

Iso_123 · 08-08-2020 10:54AM

LJones18 wrote: »

Does anyone have any advise on distinguishing topics for Qs, I'm finding it had to know how I will know if a Question is on Nuisance, or if is Rylands and Fletcher? Does Rylands and Fletcher come up very often?

If the Q specifically emphasizes something that looks like an unusual/strange use of the land escaping onto neighboring properties it is usually safe to go with Rylands! I always think of Rylands when I see anything like chemicals, man made reservoirs etc but I have seen some questions where both nuisance and Rylands are present eg Q6 October 2017

Iso_123 · 08-08-2020 10:55AM

Fedone wrote: »

Heads up for anyone who hasn’t done exams in the RDS before, the traffic heading for ballsbridge at 9am on a weekday has always been awful (not sure if Covid has helped this but I’m assuming it’s hasn’t to be on the safe side). If you’re driving I would definitely advise leaving earlier and sitting in the car park to look over notes, have a coffee, etc. Has saved me so much stress being there super early instead of sitting in traffic worrying about making it there in time

Does anyone know what time the car park opens at?

DFMCD190384 · 08-08-2020 11:02AM

Iso_123 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the car park opens at?

It doesn't say on the letter (I don't think so anyway). It just says the carpark is €7 and to pay by card.

Also, make sure to check your email. I got one yesterday saying the time of my exam is 10am and not 9.30am. I'm in Hall 8C.

Is anyone else feeling a little all over the place? Honestly, if a paper was put in front of me right now for EU I wouldn't be able to answer it. I don't know how I'm going to know it all by Thursday.

Fedone · 08-08-2020 11:07AM

Iso_123 wrote: »

Does anyone know what time the car park opens at?

For UCD exams the stewards would be there from 7am onwards, not sure if it’s the same for these but I would imagine 7/7:30am

Lallers96 · 08-08-2020 11:27AM

Won't be checking this thread here until maybe after the exams so I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who gave advice or tips on the exams to me, and others. It's rare to find a group of students for the FE1s online.

Best of luck next week to everyone

Healyjhow · 08-08-2020 11:49AM

Any chance anyone would post what topics they’ve covered for EU... I feel like I’ve covered very few and I’m a bit triggered now hahaha

Aoibhin511 · 08-08-2020 12:13PM

Healyjhow wrote: »

Any chance anyone would post what topics they’ve covered for EU... I feel like I’ve covered very few and I’m a bit triggered now hahaha

Coving 8 topics which I think should have me covered for 5/6 Q's in the exam
Institutions
Direct Effect and MS liability
Judicial review
Citizenship and workers
Services
Goods
Fundamental Rights
Equal pay/treatment and nondiscrimination

lawd20 · 08-08-2020 12:56PM

Hi would anyone have a short summary of UCC v ESB 2020 IESC in the context of Nuisance? I've skimmed the judgement and it seems to mostly relate to D's duty of care, any info would be appreciated!!!

iamanengine · 08-08-2020 12:58PM

DFMCD190384 wrote: »

It doesn't say on the letter (I don't think so anyway). It just says the carpark is €7 and to pay by card.

Also, make sure to check your email. I got one yesterday saying the time of my exam is 10am and not 9.30am. I'm in Hall 8C.

Is anyone else feeling a little all over the place? Honestly, if a paper was put in front of me right now for EU I wouldn't be able to answer it. I don't know how I'm going to know it all by Thursday.

My motto for these exams has always been that you know more than you think you do. I'm always genuinely surprised once I'm sitting down in the exam and start writing that I actually do know some stuff!

Also don't under estimate the amount of information you can take in even just cramming the day before

Hamerzan Sickles · 08-08-2020 04:37PM

iamanengine wrote: »

My motto for these exams has always been that you know more than you think you do. I'm always genuinely surprised once I'm sitting down in the exam and start writing that I actually do know some stuff!

Also don't under estimate the amount of information you can take in even just cramming the day before

These are the two most important philosophies for the exam anyone can have I think. 95% of what you put down on the exam is what you crammed the day before; and it's amazing what you end up writing without even realising it. You absorb this information without thinking about it a lot of the time, and you don't know what you actually know until you have to sit down and articulate it.

(Also, @iamanegine, I sent you a PM there.)

Healyjhow · 08-08-2020 04:46PM

Don’t suppose anyone has sample answers for tort papers 2019? I have up til 2018 if anyone needs them

Aoibhin511 · 08-08-2020 04:52PM

Healyjhow wrote: »

Don’t suppose anyone has sample answers for tort papers 2019? I have up til 2018 if anyone needs them

I have tort sample answers up to 2019 from griffith, dunno how much I trust them sometimes she seems to answer questions exactly how the examiner report said not to, but if you want to DM me your email I can pass them on

IgoPAP · 08-08-2020 06:11PM

The pass rate for EU and Torts is hovering at, what, 70-80%? Most people manage to pass it in the end.

spygirl · 08-08-2020 06:26PM

08.30 according to law society, I asked last week. Bit tight
will be aiming to get there a bit before that and take a chance if am honest. Not too familiar with the RDS buildings so don't fancy getting lost on the day

vid36 · 08-08-2020 06:29PM

IgoPAP wrote: »

The pass rate for EU and Torts is hovering at, what, 70-80%? Most people manage to pass it in the end.

Tort pass rate averages about 66%. Sometimes it goes up to 70, other times down to 61-62
EU pass rate in 75-80% range consistently

Lawgrad101 · 08-08-2020 06:39PM

Does anyone know if you get a letter from the law society once you have passed all 8 exams?

spygirl · 08-08-2020 06:42PM

I know we are keeping it light here, those are some pretty sobering numbers today.
Just how unbreakable is that disclaimer do you reckon??? Asking for a friend.

spygirl · 08-08-2020 06:43PM

Lawgrad101 wrote: »

Does anyone know if you get a letter from the law society once you have passed all 8 exams?

God I hope so, I have no idea where my first results letter is :eek:

HappyKitten62 · 08-08-2020 06:43PM

spygirl wrote: »

I know we are keeping it light here, those are some pretty sobering numbers today.
Just how unbreakable is that disclaimer do you reckon??? Asking for a friend.

Yes high numbers but the chief medical officer has stated they are not planning to lockdown any other counties at this moment in time.

100 cases were in Kildare alone.

The exams will go ahead.

Fe1student1234 · 08-08-2020 06:45PM

spygirl wrote: »

I know we are keeping it light here, those are some pretty sobering numbers today.
Just how unbreakable is that disclaimer do you reckon??? Asking for a friend.

I’m keeping an open mind! But I won’t be surprised whatever they decide

08-08-2020 06:56PM

HappyKitten62 wrote: »

Yes high numbers but the chief medical officer has stated they are not planning to lockdown any other counties at this moment in time.

100 cases were in Kildare alone.

The exams will go ahead.

Said we can’t be complacent about the rest of the country too as 50 shows an increase of cases everywhere!

Agree that exams will go ahead, but really pity students from those 3 counties. Exams not on the gov list of essential travel and Gardaí checkpoints out too.

spygirl · 08-08-2020 07:01PM

Apologies, I took this off topic. Right so vicarious Liability. Close connection test, would I be safe enough just taking in Lister, Elmonton and Reilly? is there anyone I am missing in that list?

Fe1student1234 · 08-08-2020 07:04PM

spygirl wrote: »

Apologies, I took this off topic. Right so vicarious Liability. Close connection test, would I be safe enough just taking in Lister, Elmonton and Reilly? is there anyone I am missing in that list?

In the case of Various claimants v Wm Morrison Supermarkets they overturned the finding of vicarious Liability because they said the fact that he had access to the payroll and uploaded the details of other employees online was not sufficiently connected to his employment.

I’m open for correction on this

Not sure if you need to add that case but to me it looks like they’re kinda of reducing close connection

iamanengine · 08-08-2020 07:31PM

Fe1student1234 wrote: »

In the case of Various claimants v Wm Morrison Supermarkets they overturned the finding of vicarious Liability because they said the fact that he had access to the payroll and uploaded the details of other employees online was not sufficiently connected to his employment.

I’m open for correction on this

Not sure if you need to add that case but to me it looks like they’re kinda of reducing close connection

Was this an appeal of Mohamud v WM Morrisons or this a separate case?

Edit - Separate case. Good summary here - https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2018-0213-press-summary.pdf

Lawofattracti · 08-08-2020 07:39PM

iamanengine wrote: »

Was this an appeal of Mohamud v WM Morrisons or this a separate case?

Edit - Separate case. Good summary here - https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2018-0213-press-summary.pdf

Two different cases I believe

spygirl · 08-08-2020 07:41PM

iamanengine wrote: »

Was this an appeal of Mohamud v WM Morrisons or this a separate case?

Edit - Separate case. Good summary here - https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2018-0213-press-summary.pdf

I think different case. Mohamud is petrol lad who assaulted fella who tried to skip out on paying for petrol. Making sure people paid was closely connected with his employment, as was dealing with customers so liability applied.

Close connection test being used recently a bit in UKSC re abuse claims, schools church etc. Expected we will be following it. Have done so already as far as I can recall. An O'Donnell judgment is on the outskirts of my brain somewhere

HappyKitten62 · 08-08-2020 07:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Said we can’t be complacent about the rest of the country too as 50 shows an increase of cases everywhere!

Agree that exams will go ahead, but really pity students from those 3 counties. Exams not on the gov list of essential travel and Gardaí checkpoints out too.

Oh absolutely! But no more lockdown as of yet.

FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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