PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

Varik · 03-08-2020 01:58PM

Nice about the camera adaptor.

Still want to know about proper bluetooth support, since we've only got a single USB A on front and maybe one on the rear I'd rather not have to use a dongle.

bazzz · 03-08-2020 02:10PM

Varik wrote: »

Nice about the camera adaptor.

Still want to know about proper bluetooth support, since we've only got a single USB A on front and maybe one on the rear I'd rather not have to use a dongle.

I'd say we'll be hearing a lot more news soon. Possibly this week, with rumours
of a new State Of Play coming possibly Thursday 6th.

EDIT: Just confirmed there is a State OF Play coming this Thursday,
confirmed on Twitter. It does state no PS5 news.

https://twitter.com/PlayStationEU/status/1290272391013130241?s=20

CastorTroy · 03-08-2020 07:21PM

More questions about backwards compatibility with the use of "supported". Probably just covering themselves

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 03-08-2020 09:08PM

A lot of people are giving out about the Dualshock 4 not being compatible with PS5 games. I thought this kinda thing was the norm so unless there's something I'm missing, this seems perfectly fine to me. It makes sense...........doesn't it?

Then again the Dualshock 1 was fully compatible with the PS2 and the games, it just didn't utilise Dualshock 2-specific features, like the pressure sensitive buttons. I dunno. I personally think this is fine, so I'm probably looking at a handful of bitter sweethearts complaining about it.

Potential-Monke · 03-08-2020 09:16PM

Yeah, it would be one thing if the PS5 and DS didn't have new features, but they do. So using older tech you wouldn't get those features, which would have meant having to re-do some upcoming games so DS4 users could play them. Seems perfectly fine to me tbh, new console, new pad, new features. Small thing to give out about tbh, every console comes with at least 1 controller, if you need 2, get another, etc. I can just see the price of them being closer to €100 now.

Varik · 03-08-2020 09:26PM

PS Now has some games that make use of the analgue face buttons for the DS3, and while you can use either controller it does cause issues when using a DS4.

Can see a few games that will have issues if you used a DS4, but for any multiplat game it already has to work with a controller that's doesn't have the same features on Xbox so they can't be that black/white about it.

Potential-Monke · 03-08-2020 10:22PM

Were there any games on PS4 that utilised the touchpad but something different if it was multiplat?

Varik · 03-08-2020 11:17PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Were there any games on PS4 that utilised the touchpad but something different if it was multiplat?

The touchpad is used as a big button in most multiplat games and is mapped the same as the view button on Xbox. Which is a button the DS4 doesn't have, as the equivalent space is used by the share button.

Playing GTA recently I noticed I could change radio by swiping up and down and weapon by swiping left and right. On foot that's not much of a benefit for the weapons but in a car you'd normally just have to press square and cycle through while with the touch pad you can go back and forth. In that case I don't think the box had anything and just had X button the cycle through them.

Markitron · 04-08-2020 09:05AM

Varik wrote: »

The touchpad is used as a big button in most multiplat games and is mapped the same as the view button on Xbox. Which is a button the DS4 doesn't have, as the equivalent space is used by the share button.

Playing GTA recently I noticed I could change radio by swiping up and down and weapon by swiping left and right. On foot that's not much of a benefit for the weapons but in a car you'd normally just have to press square and cycle through while with the touch pad you can go back and forth. In that case I don't think the box had anything and just had X button the cycle through them.

The touchpad is a great feature that most 3rd parties never use. It can effectively work as 5 buttons in one. Ghost of Tsushima is a great example of how to use it. Hopefully it is used a bit more next gen.

Varik · 04-08-2020 01:02PM

Even at the basic side the touchpad is 2 buttons, you'e 2 sides to it left/right and that those are separate inputs. But most 3rd party have to at least try to make the xbox and ps version similar so it's just get treated as a single button to map to the same as view.

Grumpypants · 04-08-2020 08:20PM

A "leak" On a French retailer listed and then removed the price. So take it with a giant bucket of salt.

Disk version €499
Digital version €399

bazzz · 04-08-2020 08:42PM

Not a big deal but just seen on Twitter. PlayStation's website has updated to show 360 degree views on their PS5 accessories:

DualSense

Pulse 3D Wireless Headset

Media Remote

HD Camerra

martyos121 · 04-08-2020 10:01PM

Grumpypants wrote: »

A "leak" On a French retailer listed and then removed the price. So take it with a giant bucket of salt.

Disk version €499
Digital version €399

I’ll take the digital at €399 without hesitation if that’s accurate. Even the disk version is pretty good value for those who buy physical copies.

Surely it can’t be that cheap though? Seems a bit too good to be true.

Mr Crispy · 04-08-2020 10:57PM

I'd say that's exactly what they want you to think.

bazzz wrote: »

Not a big deal but just seen on Twitter. PlayStation's website has updated to show 360 degree views on their PS5 accessories:

DualSense

Pulse 3D Wireless Headset

Media Remote

HD Camerra

Hard to say without anything to give proper scale, but the ear cups on the headphones look tiny!

HairySalmon · 04-08-2020 11:18PM

martyos121 wrote: »

I’ll take the digital at €399 without hesitation if that’s accurate. Even the disk version is pretty good value for those who buy physical copies.

Surely it can’t be that cheap though? Seems a bit too good to be true.

The strategy behind it is the margins are much larger for digital games since the retailer isn’t taking a cut. Also, the fact that digital games are €70 on release vs the €55 or €60 for physical copies.

They’d make their money back faster and you’d be locked into their ecosystem and wouldn’t be able to dip into the used game market.

HairySalmon · 04-08-2020 11:21PM

Looking forward to seeing what TLOU2 and Ghost looks like on PS5.

I’m saving starting new game + for when the console releases.

martyos121 · 04-08-2020 11:38PM

HairySalmon wrote: »

The strategy behind it is the margins are much larger for digital games since the retailer isn’t taking a cut. Also, the fact that digital games are €70 on release vs the €55 or €60 for physical copies.

They’d make their money back faster and you’d be locked into their ecosystem and wouldn’t be able to dip into the used game market.

Suits me since I already don’t bother with the PS4 used game market, haven’t bought a disk of any sort in years and I can’t see that changing.

It should be fairly easy to pick up a digital version on launch day too given that most would probably prefer the option of buying second hand games, which is a nice bonus for digital-only players.

shaveAbullock · 04-08-2020 11:52PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Suits me since I already don’t bother with the PS4 used game market, haven’t bought a disk of any sort in years and I can’t see that changing.

Yup, that kind of thing is really only for those on a budget. I got PS4 games for next to nothing thanks to trading in.
But if I didn't budget my spending on games I'd buy all digital.

Grumpypants · 05-08-2020 12:20AM

I very rarely trade on games. I like to collect them and GameStop is an hours drive away. But I do hate when I get stung with a game. I bought that animal Crossing on switch for €60 digitally and now I can't even give it away.

I still think I'll get the disk one just to have to option and to play PS4 disks.

Zero-Cool · 05-08-2020 12:22AM

Disk all day as that's how i justify regular purchases, buy, complete, trade. Some exceptions that i know I'll want to keep and get digitally but have been stung as well. Couldn't delete mass effect Andromeda fast enough.

shaveAbullock · 05-08-2020 12:24AM

Do PS do the 2 hour refund option like steam? 2 hours isn't always enough but it's something.

Varik · 05-08-2020 01:17AM

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Do PS do the 2 hour refund option like steam? 2 hours isn't always enough but it's something.

No, if you've not downloaded it yet then the 14 days apply but there has to be something actually broken about it for them to refund.

Sometimes they'll role out the "one time good faith offer" and give a refund but usually not.

HairySalmon · 05-08-2020 01:40AM

martyos121 wrote: »

Suits me since I already don’t bother with the PS4 used game market, haven’t bought a disk of any sort in years and I can’t see that changing.

It should be fairly easy to pick up a digital version on launch day too given that most would probably prefer the option of buying second hand games, which is a nice bonus for digital-only players.

I’m planning on emigrating in a few years so it’s handy to be able to keep my digital library in tact when I have to sell off my stuff.

Markitron · 05-08-2020 08:34AM

martyos121 wrote: »

It should be fairly easy to pick up a digital version on launch day too

No version of the PS5 is going to be easy to pick up on launch day, especially if the digital one is 399.

recyclops · 05-08-2020 09:03AM

399 has to be far to good of a price. I'd nearly expect both to jump by 100.

Digital all the way for me. Its much better value unless they get rid of gameshare so il wait until that's confirmed.

2nd hand markets depend on a reliance of stock even by having two consoles these will be impacted and cex/gamestop will do as much as possible to keep those profit margins close to now as possible

Markitron · 05-08-2020 09:07AM

recyclops wrote: »

399 has to be far to good of a price. I'd nearly expect both to jump by 100.

Digital all the way for me. Its much better value unless they get rid of gameshare so il wait until that's confirmed.

2nd hand markets depend on a reliance of stock even by having two consoles these will be impacted and cex/gamestop will do as much as possible to keep those profit margins close to now as possible

I think its gonna be 450/500 for the pair of them. I'm getting the disc version myself as I tend to buy physical copies at launch and then sell them.

gibgodsman · 05-08-2020 09:11AM

I don't see the Ps5 being more than €500 Disc and €400 digital, they cannot price themselves out of the market like they did with the Ps3 again. And with Coivd, anything more would seriously effect their sales as no doubt the Xbox will be €500 max

Markitron · 05-08-2020 09:18AM

gibgodsman wrote: »

I don't see the Ps5 being more than €500 Disc and €400 digital, they cannot price themselves out of the market like they did with the Ps3 again. And with Coivd, anything more would seriously effect their sales as no doubt the Xbox will be €500 max

I don't think it will be more expensive than €500, but it very easily could be. I think Digital Foundry estimated the BOM at around €490 for the disc version and €470 for the digital version. The Xbox is gonna cost roughly the same.

jonerkinsella · 05-08-2020 03:27PM

I think it will be €350 and 450.

HairySalmon · 05-08-2020 05:55PM

jonerkinsella wrote: »

I think it will be €350 and 450.

I’d be surprised if it’s €400 to be honest considering the tech that’s inside of it. I’m thinking €450-500.

I think the loss they’d take to get it to €350 would be crazy. That’s considering the much weaker at the time PS4 was €400. The only special thing about that was the 8GB of expensive GDDR5 RAM.

The PS5 has the newest APU with an SSD that’s faster than what’s available on the current market. That all adds up.

PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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