Imagine rejecting a 600k house

Sweet.Science · 28-07-2020 11:11am #1

Currently having a nightmare trying to sell and buy a house at the moment.

While in my Aunts on Sunday she told me the council offered her daughter a new build in Portmarnock . She followed it up saying she rejected it and has been offered one in Baldoyle instead.

100% a true story. Where is the fairness in all this?

Ireland 2020

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2020 11:19am

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

neris · 28-07-2020 11:21am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

its probably part of one of the new developments that the developer has to give to the council as part of the planning

Coybig_ · 28-07-2020 11:21am

I believe Fingal County Council are using CBL by now which makes this story quite doubtful.

LeinsterDub · 28-07-2020 11:35am

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

So we don't end up with black spots like we did in the past. So people can live near their jobs. So people can live near their support networks.

punisher5112 · 28-07-2020 11:37am

Sure there will be a good few in D4 too.... New development at rte....

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-07-2020 11:59am

Every new development you see being built at the moment will have many council
tenants in them

Sweet.Science · 28-07-2020 12:02pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

I can see why you wouldnt believe me. But its true

suicide_circus · 28-07-2020 12:07pm

whats the opposite of gentrification?

28-07-2020 12:13pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

whats the opposite of gentrification?

Ghettoisation

Edgware · 28-07-2020 12:15pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Every new development you see being built at the moment will have many council
tenants in them

The theory being that it will cause social housing tenants to improve their act, keep their houses tidy, no cars on concrete blocks in the front garden and aspire to a higher standard of living. Good luck with that

suicide_circus · 28-07-2020 12:19pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Ghettoisation

i suppose what i mean is;

if well off people moving into a poor neighbourhood is seen as gentrification, what do you call it when poor people move into a well off neighbourhood? thats hardly ghettoisation..

28-07-2020 12:27pm

Ah gotcha.

Assimilation? Or the hope of it?

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2020 12:28pm

LeinsterDub wrote: »

So we don't end up with black spots like we did in the past. So people can live near their jobs. So people can live near their support networks.

And which people cause it to be a black spot...

28-07-2020 12:30pm

What I get from the OP is that there’s a quick turnaround in getting a second offer. That’s got to be good, right? I’m sure someone has taken house 1.

blanch152 · 28-07-2020 1:25pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

Coybig_ wrote: »

I believe Fingal County Council are using CBL by now which makes this story quite doubtful.

http://rebuildingireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSR-Q1-2019-1.pdf

June 2019 report on social housing has four or five developments in Portmarnock and at least one in Donabate.

imme · 28-07-2020 2:29pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't know if I believe it or not but why the hell would we build social housing in portmarnock.

Part V of the housing and planning act 2000
I would imagine.

A nice mix of someone paying €3000 a month on a 25 year mortgage versus someone paying a rent of €40.

Welcome to Ireland indeed.

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2020 2:31pm

imme wrote: »

Part V of the housing and planning act 2000
I would imagine.

A nice mix of someone paying €3000 a month on a 25 year mortgage versus someone paying a rent of €40.

Welcome to Ireland indeed.

and I'm sure they'll both care for and appreciate the property in the same way.

hi! · 28-07-2020 2:32pm

Excuse my ignorance- but someone who gets a new build via social housing do they pay anything towards it?

malinheader · 28-07-2020 2:33pm

imme wrote: »

Part V of the housing and planning act 2000
I would imagine.

A nice mix of someone paying €3000 a month on a 25 year mortgage versus someone paying a rent of €40.

Welcome to Ireland indeed.

And they wonder in alot of cases why some people don't want to work

J.O. Farmer · 28-07-2020 2:33pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

What I get from the OP is that there’s a quick turnaround in getting a second offer. That’s got to be good, right? I’m sure someone has taken house 1.

Fantastic news if you're looking for a council house. You can afford to be picky.

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2020 2:35pm

hi! wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance- but someone who gets a new build via social housing do they pay anything towards it?

you pay 30-40 a week, except a lot don't, theres millions of arrears owed.
and in over 60% of cases the tenant is only receiving social welfare so in reality we're paying for the lot.

shesty · 28-07-2020 2:36pm

blanch152 wrote: »

http://rebuildingireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CSR-Q1-2019-1.pdf

June 2019 report on social housing has four or five developments in Portmarnock and at least one in Donabate.

Fingal are doing this in a lot of locations in North Dublin.I believe I saw another thread here with a link to the fact that Cluid Housing bought about 40 houses in a new development in Rush.Fingal may also have a number in the same development.
I would be pretty sick if I paid almost 400k for a house and the lad around the corner got the exact same for free (or almost).I have no problem with having a social support system in the coutry but that doesn't seem right.

Kamu · 28-07-2020 2:36pm

hi! wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance- but someone who gets a new build via social housing do they pay anything towards it?

If it's from Dublin City Council, the main earner pays 15% of there weekly wage and any subsequent lodger pays 19e per week.

hi! · 28-07-2020 2:36pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you pay 30-40 a week, except a lot don't, theres millions of arrears owed.
and in over 60% of cases the tenant is only receiving social welfare so in reality we're paying for the lot.

Wow that is so depressing

Kamu · 28-07-2020 2:37pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you pay 30-40 a week, except a lot don't, theres millions of arrears owed.
and in over 60% of cases the tenant is only receiving social welfare so in reality we're paying for the lot.

I live in a council house, and I pay more than 40 euro per week. I pay 15% of my weekly wage, and my family pay 20euro each.

hi! · 28-07-2020 2:38pm

Kamu wrote: »

I live in a council house, and I pay more than 40 euro per week.

How much out of interest

Eric Cartman · 28-07-2020 2:38pm

Kamu wrote: »

I live in a council house, and I pay more than 40 euro per week.

you probably work, but as before, over 60% of council tenants only receive money from welfare, so for them its 30-40 a week. 30-40 a week is the majority of cases.

The Bishop Basher · 28-07-2020 2:42pm

LeinsterDub wrote: »

So we don't end up with black spots like we did in the past.

At least they were self contained black spots.

The current system is very unfair on people who work hard to pay for their own home.

hi! · 28-07-2020 2:43pm

The Bishop Basher wrote: »

At least they were self contained black spots.

The current system is very unfair on people who work hard to pay for their own home.

Or those who work hard but can’t afford their own home or rent and are stuck living at home with their parents in their late 20s

Kamu · 28-07-2020 2:43pm

hi! wrote: »

How much out of interest

I pay 75 euro a week as my weekly wage is 500 euro. Total we pay 140 a week.

Imagine rejecting a 600k house

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