Madeleine McCann

Banana Republic. · 24-07-2020 04:38PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Just watched the documentary there now on catch-up. Not a huge amount of new information there really, but very interesting how they put everything together, timeline wise.

I wonder when that doc was filmed, as there was an interesting piece there a while back that the phone had been linked to another peadophile.

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1283864257910710280

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1284600463669825536

Like the legal expert who was interviewed on the episode mentioned, the likelihood of this person coming forward and very likely implicating themselves in a crime attracting a sentence of 10 years or thereabouts is extremely remote.

However, If the above report is true and this person is known, surely they could be detained for questioning? There would be no reason this person would be required to volunteer if there was evidence that he or she held the phone number they were appealing for is there?

In any event, you would hope this piece of sh*t is not released on a legal technicality in a few weeks without ever serving a day of his sentence handed down for the rape of that poor woman just so he can roam free and do the same thing or worse to someone else.

I wonder was this Peado a friend of CB,CB was staying with two men who “fostered” German children whichi seen reported by BBC just in a village close to PDL so CB could of been the one furthest away and the other person could of been the abductor. In that case they would need to try drain the info from CB or if not bring that other person in for questioning. This does seem the hottest lead they’ve ever had. Would love to know what his partner in the burglaries knows, she could be the key to crack this all.

Banana Republic. · 26-07-2020 08:05PM

How credible but the link to Breukner could lead to many ppl having second thoughts of anything they’ve seen. Rare to see someone of that exact age have the same eye condition. I have always thought if she’s alive she doesn’t even know she’s Madeline.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/witness-claims-madeleine-mccann-living-22413897.amp

nc6000 · 27-07-2020 09:46PM

I watched the ITV documentary earlier - hard to believe this guy wasn't on their radar until recently and that the 30 minute phone call which was connected through the phone mast nearest the Ocean Club at around the same time she was reported missing wasn't followed up on.

Banana Republic. · 27-07-2020 10:19PM

nc6000 wrote: »

I watched the ITV documentary earlier - hard to believe this guy wasn't on their radar until recently and that the 30 minute phone call which was connected through the phone mast nearest the Ocean Club at around the same time she was reported missing wasn't followed up on.

The PJ were so small time investigation wise they missed everything possible within the early timeframe to save Madeline. Say CB knew how small the lice force was and he’d be gone far away by the time back up came. The trail was gone fairly cold by the time they even thought of him but then again it all started to fit together in the years after with the crimes he committed.

happyoutscan · 27-07-2020 11:13PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

How credible but the link to Breukner could lead to many ppl having second thoughts of anything they’ve seen. Rare to see someone of that exact age have the same eye condition. I have always thought if she’s alive she doesn’t even know she’s Madeline.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/witness-claims-madeleine-mccann-living-22413897.amp

My daughter has it. Never really googled it or anything to see how common/uncommon it is though.

nc6000 · 27-07-2020 11:16PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

My daughter has it. Never really googled it or anything to see how common/uncommon it is though.

I think it's quite uncommon - can't say I know of anyone other than Madeleine who has it. I certainly have never met anyone with that feature.

Immortal Starlight · 28-07-2020 01:38AM

My friend has green eyes with a brown mark the same as madeleines on one.

Day Lewin · 28-07-2020 11:26AM

Not clear if this is really connected with the case.

But that brute CB seems to have liked keeping souvenirs - so many criminals do!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-madeleine-mccann-police-raid-22428225

buttercups88 · 28-07-2020 11:40AM

Day Lewin wrote: »

Not clear if this is really connected with the case.

But that brute CB seems to have liked keeping souvenirs - so many criminals do!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-madeleine-mccann-police-raid-22428225

God love her parents right now. Seems the German police are acting on credible information.

Am I right thinking the person who CB transferred the ownership of the car was from Hanover

Muahahaha · 28-07-2020 12:14PM

Just heard on radio there that German police are digging up a site in Hanover where they believe Maddie might be buried. This is huge news and also ties into them saying last month that they have good reasons to believe that Maddie is no longer alive.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 12:51PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Just heard on radio there that German police are digging up a site in Hanover where they believe Maddie might be buried. This is huge news and also ties into them saying last month that they have good reasons to believe that Maddie is no longer alive.

If the previous poster was right that the guy transferred the car was from Hanover we could expect huge news very soon. The fact they are searching a site other then Portugal means they’ve gotten credible information or at least located another house of CB. They really wanna nail him before he gets out with his appeal.

Muahahaha · 28-07-2020 01:24PM

Yeah plus if you go back to the day after the disappearance and the massive man hunt that ensued. If it was Chrstian B it would make sense that he got out of Portugal in his campervan pretty quick. Maybe his intention was initially not to kill her but upon realising the story was on every news channel all day long he panicked and thought he had to do something.

Its also said in criminology that when someone is on the run for a crime they often go back to their home place, familiarity of surroundings makes them feel more secure. Which feeds into the theory that German police have that he got out of Portugal quick smart and then he buried her locally to his own house around Hanover in an allotment. That part makes sense, if you had to bury a body you would likely do it somewhere you are familiar with and know how busy/quiet it is, etc rather than just driving around all night with a body and choosing a random field.

Just hope she is found now and the allotment dig isnt a red herring. There is some good hope here, if you put yourself in his shoes a lot of things are adding up on what he might have done.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 28-07-2020 01:28PM

If her body is found I wonder if the people who couldn't wait to rush onto every thread about the case to publicly imply the parents had something to do with it will be as quick to rush on and publicly apologise to them.

Kidchameleon · 28-07-2020 01:46PM

Emmy Rapid Urine wrote: »

If her body is found I wonder if the people who couldn't wait to rush onto every thread about the case to publicly imply the parents had something to do with it will be as quick to rush on and publicly apologise to them.

Of course they wont. They know the game is up and they have been repositioning themselves from "parents did it" to "peado did it as a result of neglect / going on the lash". Absolute weasel behaviour

statesaver · 28-07-2020 01:48PM

I really hope there is some closure for the family.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 01:53PM

Emmy Rapid Urine wrote: »

If her body is found I wonder if the people who couldn't wait to rush onto every thread about the case to publicly imply the parents had something to do with it will be as quick to rush on and publicly apologise to them.

I think ppl have to remember for a long time there was no other suspects really and the parents were the last to see her alive so naturally suspicion grows on them. I’ve been in and out of the Mc Canns did it thought process tbh. I’d always hoped she was alive and it was someone else involved.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 01:59PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah plus if you go back to the day after the disappearance and the massive man hunt that ensued. If it was Chrstian B it would make sense that he got out of Portugal in his campervan pretty quick. Maybe his intention was initially not to kill her but upon realising the story was on every news channel all day long he panicked and thought he had to do something.

Its also said in criminology that when someone is on the run for a crime they often go back to their home place, familiarity of surroundings makes them feel more secure. Which feeds into the theory that German police have that he got out of Portugal quick smart and then he buried her locally to his own house around Hanover in an allotment. That part makes sense, if you had to bury a body you would likely do it somewhere you are familiar with and know how busy/quiet it is, etc rather than just driving around all night with a body and choosing a random field.

Just hope she is found now and the allotment dig isnt a red herring. There is some good hope here, if you put yourself in his shoes a lot of things are adding up on what he might have done.

Agreed there’s a few documentaries that talk about familiarity, abducting her in a place he was familiar with, driving away in the camper van that he talked about could fit a small child, slipped out of the country that night as nobody was looking for a camper van at the time. The PJ was so small that their search could only focus locally at the time so gave him valuable time to escape with her concealed in his van. He was the man carrying the child it seems, took her to his own place in Germany again familiarity and dig a hole that night or the next few days as suspicion wasn’t on him n nobody probably even knew he’d arrived back in the house. Intensely cleaned his van of any DNA. Over the years it’s seemed he left little nuggets of info out from time to time as his personality is known to do. All the online chats and in particular the talking of details to “friends” throughout the years seem to be his undoing if and that’s a big IF Madeline is found.

Day Lewin · 28-07-2020 02:00PM

I dunno - all the way from the south of Portugal to the north of Germany is a long old way to carry a body.
And then bury it near where you live?

Wouldn't it have made far more sense to drive off the road somewhere between those two locations, into some bit of mountain in Spain or forest in France, and duck out of your camper with a spade and dig the small hollow needed?
You'd just look like any camper taking a dump. [It's what they all do, lol]

I think its more likely that the police are searching for either anything connected with another missing little girl from Germany (Inge Gehricke) or else, some more of CB's nasty collection of USB drives and videos.

limnam · 28-07-2020 02:02PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

I dunno - all the way from the south of Portugal to the north of Germany is a long old way to carry a body.
And then bury it near where you live?

Wouldn't it have made far more sense to drive off the road somewhere between those two locations, into some bit of mountain in Spain or forest in France, and duck out of your camper with a spade and dig the small hollow needed?
You'd just look like any camper taking a dump. [It's what they all do, lol]

I think its more likely that the police are searching for either anything connected with another missing little girl from Germany (Inge Gehricke) or else, some more of CB's nasty collection of USB drives and videos.

I thought what he had used to drive back was forensically checked and cleared?

Or was that another vehicle ?

Day Lewin · 28-07-2020 02:18PM

limnam wrote: »

I thought what he had used to drive back was forensically checked and cleared?

Or was that another vehicle ?

I don't think we've ever been told how he got back to Germany or what he drove to get there.
We do know that he sort of wandered between the two countries over the years. Presumably driving himself most of the time.

We know of the car that had its Reg. changed the day after the disappearance of Madeleine;
there's also the VW camper that was eventually sold on in Portugal, and the big shiny American-style motorhome that was found in Germany itself. Probably others, too.

AudreyHepburn · 28-07-2020 02:18PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Just heard on radio there that German police are digging up a site in Hanover where they believe Maddie might be buried. This is huge news and also ties into them saying last month that they have good reasons to believe that Maddie is no longer alive.

Please god her parents get the answers they’re looking for and the closure they need and deserve.

It’s sounds like the police may well have their man.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 02:22PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

I don't think we've ever been told how he got back to Germany or what he drove to get there.
We do know that he sort of wandered between the two countries over the years. Presumably driving himself most of the time.

We know of the car that had its Reg. changed the day after the disappearance of Madeleine;
there's also the VW camper that was eventually sold on it Portugal, and the big shiny American-style motorhome that was found in Germany itself. Probably others, too.

If he has an accomplice too, that would add allot more vehicles. His gf at the time would hold huge information as to did he leave PDL that night and where was in the days after. She can provide an alibi. The quote he had a horrible job to do came from her apparently. He had no idea how big this case would become. He’ll be one of the most infamous criminals high up in terms of historical killers and the mystery that followed Plus the worldwide media attention.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 02:48PM

https://twitter.com/9NewsSyd/status/1288107149688623104?s=20 Nine News Sydney

buttercups88 · 28-07-2020 02:51PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

https://twitter.com/9NewsSyd/status/1288107149688623104?s=20 Nine News Sydney

Serious goosebumps watching that video. For them to bring in that much equipment they must be sure of finding something.

Banana Republic. · 28-07-2020 02:55PM

buttercups88 wrote: »

Serious goosebumps watching that video. For them to bring in that much equipment they must be sure of finding something.

I’d say what they’ve found in that other bolt hole that he has leads them to believe they have to overturn the whole place. Serious equipment that’s for sure. It’s super serious they could find the key to many of his crimes there.

Flippyfloppy · 28-07-2020 03:33PM

buttercups88 wrote: »

Serious goosebumps watching that video. For them to bring in that much equipment they must be sure of finding something.

So many of these searches lead to nothing. I hope nothing is found, the thoughts of him being the person who took her is too much.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 28-07-2020 03:33PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think ppl have to remember for a long time there was no other suspects really and the parents were the last to see her alive so naturally suspicion grows on them. I’ve been in and out of the Mc Canns did it thought process tbh. I’d always hoped she was alive and it was someone else involved.

Yes but I presume you weren't going on public websites and stating your thoughts and saying Gerry looks dodgy, Kate seems cold and all the other nasty rubbish that people have been posting about two people they don't know who have lost their child.

Babooshka · 28-07-2020 03:40PM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

So many of these searches lead to nothing. I hope nothing is found, the thoughts of him being the person who took her is too much.

I totally understand what you mean but which is worse, knowing she came to a horrible ending or never knowing what happened at all. If he did it, and it's still a big if at this moment, then I pray to God he has some humanity in him to confess before he is released or he dies, whatever comes first. If there is any shred of humanity in him, if he did it I honestly pray he speaks up. No one wants him free to do what he has done in the past to others, even if he hasn't done it to Madeleine.

dark crystal · 28-07-2020 04:27PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

I dunno - all the way from the south of Portugal to the north of Germany is a long old way to carry a body.
And then bury it near where you live?

I think its more likely that the police are searching for either anything connected with another missing little girl from Germany (Inge Gehricke) or else, some more of CB's nasty collection of USB drives and videos.

I think it more likely this is what they're searching for too, rather than a body. Logistically, it would be very difficult to transport a dead body that distance, given the (apologies) odour that would be present after a day or two. Praia de Luz is approximately 2,700 km from Hanover.

It's possible he may have drugged her while transporting her alive, but the chances he would be stopped at some stage on the journey through three different countries would have been too big a chance to take, especially given all the publicity surrounding the case.

I think they're probably looking for similar evidence to the haul they found at the old disused factory, i.e; usb sticks or photographic evidence. Perhaps some sick souvenir he may have kept, as sickos like him are wont to do.

Whatever the reason, like others have said, I hope something, anything, is found to help resolve this case and give her parents some closure at long last. How agonising it must be to constantly get your hopes up only to be led down another blind alley. They deserve some peace.

buttercups88 · 28-07-2020 04:48PM

https://news.sky.com/story/police-search-near-hanover-linked-to-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-12037852

Sniffer dogs are now on the site and an area of trees has been dug up

Madeleine McCann

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