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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Have to say I'm enjoying the job FG are doing on FF in this government. Varadkar is playing Martin like a fiddle. Between the green zone turnaround and then the social welfare issue he is positioning FF for an almighty wallop come next election.

    FG playing chess while Martin and the rest of the gombeens are playing snakes and ladders.

    This was always going to happen. Martins desperation to be Taoiseach allowed FG to walk all over FF. Basically Martin sold out FF to get into government and FG are now rubbing their faces in it. I wonder if Donohue would have said what he said yesterday about the Junior ministers pay if it was an FG led government?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    I find it weird when people defend these enormous salaries which come from public money.

    I'm not against public officials being paid well but paying these nobody junior ministers more than the PM of Italy or Spain is absolutely ludicrous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Got this earlier, funny little bit.


    One day a florist went into a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept any money from you today, as I'm doing community service this week.'

    The florist was extremely pleased and left the shop.
    When the barber went to open his shop the following morning, there, outside his door, was a 'thank you' card together with a dozen roses waiting for him.

    Later, a member of An Garda Siochana comes in for a haircut, and again, when he tries to pay his bill, the barber once again replied, 'I cannot accept any money from you, as I'm doing community service this week.' The cop was very happy and left the shop.

    The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen doughnuts waiting for him at the door.

    Now Micheál Martin came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber once again replied, 'I cannot accept any money from you, as I'm doing community service this week.' Micheál was very happy, as he did not have to claim this on expenses and left the shop.

    The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen Fianna Fáil TDs, a dozen Fine Gael TDs and a few more from Green Party Ireland all lined up waiting for a free haircut.

    And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the Citizens of Ireland and the politicians who run it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    To be fair, many teachers went above and beyond but there were many others who did the bare minimum (especially in primary school).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    To be fair, many teachers went above and beyond but there were many others who did the bare minimum (especially in primary school).

    We don't seem to vet TD's salaries and allowances based on their performance. I hear a few were napping on the job the other week.
    Won't be long before Nurses are relegated from 'Hero' status back down to 'too many holidays over paid' status.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    McMurphy wrote: »
    So you aren't a member of FF anymore Patrick, or have you just forgotten what membership card you're in receipt of this month:confused:

    No that was a joke Johnny. Not the first time you fell for one of mine hook line and sinker. Ended up with pie all over your face if I remember correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Bowie wrote: »
    We don't seem to vet TD's salaries and allowances based on their performance. I hear a few were napping on the job the other week.
    Won't be long before Nurses are relegated from 'Hero' status back down to 'too many holidays over paid' status.

    They should strike now while the going is good for them. Equal pay for equal work the government wouldn't have a leg to stand on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Bowie wrote: »
    We don't seem to vet TD's salaries and allowances based on their performance. I hear a few were napping on the job the other week.
    Won't be long before Nurses are relegated from 'Hero' status back down to 'too many holidays over paid' status.

    It's a salaried job though, I mean the Opposition get theirs too, based on what performance would you give theirs.
    It's these perks like the wage increase for juniors that are infuriating.
    How would one crew justify theirs for 3 years with no work being done earthly elsewhere, while condemning others is like speaking with forked tongue paleface.
    See I didn't name them, but you know, whom I mean.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why exactly is the government not willing to abolish the special allowance that is the subject of last week's legislation? There has to be more to it than greed. Surely, Hildegarde wouldn't throw her toys out of the pram if she was asked to forgo the alllowance!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    No that was a joke Johnny. Not the first time you fell for one of mine hook line and sinker. Ended up with pie all over your face if I remember correctly.

    A joke you say...... didn't we call you out on the "joke" when you posted it at the time......

    Your act went stale a few years ago.


    Pull your socks up Patrick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    He has some organisational position within FG, liaising between membership and parliamentary party or somesuch...

    Milk and sugar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    It's a salaried job though, I mean the Opposition get theirs too, based on what performance would you give theirs.
    It's these perks like the wage increase for juniors that are infuriating.
    How would one crew justify theirs for 3 years with no work being done earthly elsewhere, while condemning others is like speaking with forked tongue paleface.
    See I didn't name them, but you know, whom I mean.

    Just pointing out we'll get reams of anecdotal stories about nurses and the like and people will base or bolster their opinions as to whether or not a rise is due based on that. When it comes to politicians, their pensions and 'allowances' we are expected to fall in line and hear about quality money for quality people and the like.
    Pointing out things and criticising is their job. Especially if the ministers are taking the (Hi Ho) silver away ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    All minister are to take a 10% pay cut


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    All minister are to take a 10% pay cut

    After their raise ;)

    Gents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    All minister are to take a 10% pay cut

    Yes I see that.
    https://m.independent.ie/

    Bit of equalisation there, anyway, but it's been forced by opinion and it will fall hollow now.
    But it's a good move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,240 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Yes I see that.
    https://m.independent.ie/

    Bit of equalisation there, anyway, but it's been forced by opinion and it will fall hollow now.
    But it's a good move.

    Yes, agree, allowing themselves to be pushed around by a bunch of scones.

    Extremely poor start up to now, if the schools thing falls flat it’s gonzo.

    Better get that one right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Bowie wrote: »
    After their raise ;)

    Gents.

    Nice to get a haircut and still be quids in :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,682 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Norma Foley living in some time warp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Very messy start to the new Government, first Cowen then sleeping beauty Eamonn, €16 k pay rises and now a roll back where everyone is taking a 10% pay cut when they probably copped it that the public were pissed off over the whole thing.

    And some people think politics is boring!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Very messy start to the new Government, first Cowen then sleeping beauty Eamonn, €16 k pay rises and now a roll back where everyone is taking a 10% pay cut when they probably copped it that the public were pissed off over the whole thing.

    And some people think politics is boring!

    No need to watch American politics when we have our own pantomime here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    This covid payment stopping if you go abroad for a break is ridiculous too.
    Loads of people had stuff booked and paid for and can't get their money back if they don't go.
    I know there are some exploiting the system, but this blanket ban on leaving the country or face having your payments stopped is bordering on totalitarianism.
    No bother if you take a break here but don't go abroad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    This covid payment stopping if you go abroad for a break is ridiculous too.
    Loads of people had stuff booked and paid for and can't get their money back if they don't go.
    I know there are some exploiting the system, but this blanket ban on leaving the country or face having your payments stopped is bordering on totalitarianism.
    No bother if you take a break here but don't go abroad.

    You must ask yourself though is a few euro for a holiday more important than a life time of guilt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    We should get Verona Murphy to open up a few camps for returning holiday makers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Very messy start to the new Government, first Cowen then sleeping beauty Eamonn, €16 k pay rises and now a roll back where everyone is taking a 10% pay cut when they probably copped it that the public were pissed off over the whole thing.

    And some people think politics is boring!

    Don't forget Leo with his own aide-de-camp and Simon wanting to keep his car and garda driver. They are all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Don't forget Leo with his own aide-de-camp and Simon wanting to keep his car and garda driver. They are all the same.

    and Peter 'paedo sympathiser' thatchell

    the scandal list is already something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Very messy start to the new Government, first Cowen then sleeping beauty Eamonn, €16 k pay rises and now a roll back where everyone is taking a 10% pay cut when they probably copped it that the public were pissed off over the whole thing.

    And some people think politics is boring!

    It is beyond embarassing.

    It's clear there are major communication issues.

    Their summer holiday will be a welcome relief from the chaos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    It is beyond embarassing.

    It's clear there are major communication issues.

    Their summer holiday will be a welcome relief from the chaos.

    Now is surely not the time to take a holiday. Covid caused economic chaos, a terrible eu budget, Brexit around the corner.

    They couldn't give a toss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    It is beyond embarassing.

    It's clear there are major communication issues.

    Their summer holiday will be a welcome relief from the chaos.

    Embarrassing for any floating voter voted for them. They themselves couldn't give a fiddler's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bowie wrote: »
    After their raise ;)

    Gents.
    No need to watch American politics when we have our own pantomime here
    Floppybits wrote: »
    Don't forget Leo with his own aide-de-camp and Simon wanting to keep his car and garda driver. They are all the same.
    It is beyond embarassing.

    It's clear there are major communication issues.

    Their summer holiday will be a welcome relief from the chaos.


    Was wondering how posters were goi g to squeeze in criticism of the government after tonight’s announcement of a 10% pay cut.

    Some people won’t be happy no matter what.


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