The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 21-07-2020 02:42AM

If only the top epidemiologists had ways of predicting what things will look like in the immediate future...

FWIW I don't see a full NFL season going ahead. Whatever about NBA and MLB starting/restarting, I don't 32 teams of about 100 rosters (in addition to all the other staff required to make a gameday work) safely getting started. Not unless they do something similar to NBA, of which I think there's about a 1 in a million chance of making that work for so many people.

el Fenomeno · 22-07-2020 06:20AM

- Preseason has been cancelled
- Rosters reduced from 90 to 80
- Michael Bennett retires (good riddance)
- Hard Knocks starts 11th August. Features both LA teams. Going to be strange with no preseason games.

Foxtrol · 24-07-2020 02:20PM

Jets look like they are becoming even more of a mess. Add the below article about Adams to claims of racist and sexist comments from the owner, that have apparently annoyed a lot of players.

https://twitter.com/Prez/status/1286661205868908546?s=20

hots · 24-07-2020 03:01PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Jets look like they are becoming even more of a mess. Add the below article about Adams to claims of racist and sexist comments from the owner, that have apparently annoyed a lot of players.

https://twitter.com/Prez/status/1286661205868908546?s=20

No quotes and written by Mehta, I'll take it with plenty of salt. Adams is looking for a new deal with 2 full years still left to play (and another one under control after that potentially), and was promised that he would get a new deal. He's behaving like a child and doing his best to force his way out in every way possible.

Foxtrol · 24-07-2020 03:22PM

hots wrote: »

No quotes and written by Mehta, I'll take it with plenty of salt. Adams is looking for a new deal with 2 full years still left to play (and another one under control after that potentially), and was promised that he would get a new deal. He's behaving like a child and doing his best to force his way out in every way possible.

What quotes are you looking for, there are several from Adams and he retweeted the story?

Adams is seeing his peer group from the top of his draft getting extensions and it is pretty clear the team made promises to him about a contract. When a team is a mess they need to do all they can to keep star players happy, the Jets have clearly failed at this.

hots · 24-07-2020 03:30PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

What quotes are you looking for, there are several from Adams and he retweeted the story?

Adams is seeing his peer group from the top of his draft getting extensions and it is pretty clear the team made promises to him about a contract. When a team is a mess they need to do all they can to keep star players happy, the Jets have clearly failed at this.

Sorry quotes from the people he's slagging off to give them a chance at response, I'm well aware we've got lots of Jamal quotes

Agreed that we had to do everything we could to keep him, but he's behaving so poorly now he'll be missed far less than he would have. A great player but certainly not the leader and locker room presence he might think he is, going out and airing every possible bit of dirty laundry isn't exactly team captain material.

Christy42 · 24-07-2020 04:06PM

hots wrote: »

No quotes and written by Mehta, I'll take it with plenty of salt. Adams is looking for a new deal with 2 full years still left to play (and another one under control after that potentially), and was promised that he would get a new deal. He's behaving like a child and doing his best to force his way out in every way possible.

If I was playing with Gase as coach I would trying to force my way out too. Adams will go somewhere and make a massive difference to the team. The Jets will be dunked on by what is now looking a pretty strong division. He is playing some incredible football right now and it must be frustrating to have it feel pointless.

Honestly I can't see Adams being missed by the Jets. All he does is hurt their draft position if he helps them win a few games.

Foxtrol · 24-07-2020 06:21PM

Many teams will be sweating if this sort of cap drop comes in for 2021. Eagles, Saints, Falcons, Chiefs (along with several others) are currently far beyond that cap.

Obviously cuts and restructures could be made but there'll be a lot of pain.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1286724500076331008?s=20

Shedite27 · 24-07-2020 06:49PM

I wonder was there any thought at all in the CBA to "what happens if Revenue falls". Doubt there were many that could have seen that happening in the next 10 years

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 24-07-2020 07:00PM

Funny how quick they are to lower the cap.

24-07-2020 07:16PM

Hopefully it means strike. Doubt they can actually lower it.

Foxtrol · 24-07-2020 07:28PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Hopefully it means strike. Doubt they can actually lower it.

Looks like the players are on board with it. It is somewhat of a win for them to spread the pain over a few years rather than all in 2021 (or even cutting 2020). Where things will get really bad is if 2021 season can't go ahead and the losses mount.

https://twitter.com/NFLPA/status/1286736810413105152?s=20

Foxtrol · 24-07-2020 07:34PM

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Funny how quick they are to lower the cap.

Not really, seeing as the players have gotten an annual basis cap increase for so long, in line with revenues.

They're actually deferring the lost revenue over a couple of years, unlike the cap increase that have come to players straight away.

I'm the first to give the owners crap but they're being relatively fair here. Obviously better if they'd eat the drop but the players rightfully get the benefits of revenue share so they also need to take the down side.

Guffy · 24-07-2020 09:09PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Hopefully it means strike. Doubt they can actually lower it.

They can't strike nor can there be a lock out

24-07-2020 09:17PM

Guffy wrote: »

They can't strike nor can there be a lock out

Even though it’s irrelevant because they’ve agreed, surely if one side breaks an agreement then the other side can. To say they “can’t” strike is a bit odd.

Guffy · 24-07-2020 11:17PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Even though it’s irrelevant because they’ve agreed, surely if one side breaks an agreement then the other side can. To say they “can’t” strike is a bit odd.

Well it's part of the CBA that neither side can down tools. So yes i guess technically if one side were to withdraw from the cba they could do so. Don't know if that would technically be striking either though

Itssoeasy · 25-07-2020 12:00AM

Well seeing as the NFLPA have agreed to the NFL protocols the season seems like it's a lock to start at least. I know NFL gamepass is reacting to things in the NFL. They automatically go to week 1 on the regular season even though the pre season is still there and they have removed the old Washingtons teams logo from their games for the coming season leaving a blank white square.

Realt Dearg Sec · 25-07-2020 12:02AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

leaving a blank white square.

Pfff, racists.

Itssoeasy · 25-07-2020 12:05AM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Pfff, racists.

RDS How's she cutting ? I'm not against them changing it but wait until they have something to replace it with. I cancelled the auto renew for gamepass but looks like I'll be getting it again.

Realt Dearg Sec · 25-07-2020 12:12AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

RDS How's she cutting ? I'm not against them changing it but wait until they have something to replace it with. I cancelled the auto renew for gamepass but looks like I'll be getting it again.

Oh I was just joking, like "a WHITE square, typical". I had sunday ticket here last season as part of a cable package but it's spectacularly expensive to get ordinarily. And more importantly I'm moving to Chicago so the local stations will have bears games every week anyway. I can live with that as I'm not much of a fan of redzone anyway

adrian522 · 25-07-2020 04:57PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Oh I was just joking, like "a WHITE square, typical". I had sunday ticket here last season as part of a cable package but it's spectacularly expensive to get ordinarily. And more importantly I'm moving to Chicago so the local stations will have bears games every week anyway. I can live with that as I'm not much of a fan of redzone anyway

Yeah, but you'll have to watch the bears every week though.

Itssoeasy · 25-07-2020 05:48PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Yeah, but you'll have to watch the bears every week though.

Well only bears fan would have voluntarily watched the tribisky era so far.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 25-07-2020 06:42PM

First player to opt out of the season. Doubt he’ll be alone.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/53538715

Guffy · 25-07-2020 06:53PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

First player to opt out of the season. Doubt he’ll be alone.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/53538715

Think he's a qualified doctor and is doing so to work on the front line

jack presley · 25-07-2020 08:14PM

He's got his way it seems

https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/1287118900371611650

Always Be Closing · 25-07-2020 08:17PM

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1287118020662435840

Madness

The_Honeybadger · 25-07-2020 08:20PM

Jets had to trade him really. I know he was under control for several more seasons but this was going to drag on and on. Best get rid of him while his stock was high.

That’s a very decent return for him, albeit the picks are likely to be in the latter parts of the respective rounds. I’m not sure I’d have given that up to get him if I’m honest.

phatkev · 25-07-2020 08:21PM

Its sad to see a talent like this go, but the way hes been acting since November it really doesnt surprise me. I wouldnt mind if he had went with Gase angle from the beginning (no one wants that man out as much as me) but every week he had a different story/blaming someone else!
Be interesting to see what they get for him, it'll be also interesting to see if he gets his payday before the season starts which was the main reason he wanted out.
Again, sad to see an all pro talent leave, but I dont think his move will make a huge difference in the Jets wins/loses column

phatkev · 25-07-2020 08:23PM

Always Be Closing wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1287118020662435840

Madness

Holy sh1t, I'll take that! Getting it for a player that has not been shy about wanting out adds to it a little bit as well

Dont know about them necessarily being late round pick though, theres a lot of competition in the NFC

phatkev · 25-07-2020 08:25PM

On the flip side this is exactly what Gase done in Miami and we all seen how that ended! the sooner him and the JOhnsons get the fcuk outta town the better

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