Weston Airport

Stovepipe · 26-05-2019 8:26pm

zuutroy wrote: »

Just to clarify, hangar based operators will pay outdoor rates when displaced, not full hangar fees. Sadly 50% on landings and T&G as well as an increase in parking both in and outdoors I think is probably what caused the exodus.

.....Two of my friends left Weston because they were told that they would not be reimbursed or compensated if their aircraft were pushed
outside, regardless. Now, adding to having their aircraft pushed out into the very elements that they paid to avoid, is the risk of "hangar rash", so my friends voted with their feet. The attitude displayed to them was "like it or lump it", which is not fair or right treatment for good, paying customers.

zuutroy · 26-05-2019 9:06pm

I see. The email that went around in March says: "If the aircraft is moved from the hangar to the apron, the apron rate will apply for that period."

You're right though, I would fear for it with the way things are going.

smurfjed · 27-05-2019 7:41am

Where have they moved their aircraft to?

BlackandGreen · 27-05-2019 9:31am

Corporate greed ruining everything.

emo72 · 27-05-2019 8:26pm

Dc3? took off this evening? I thought that's what I saw. Where's Kenny when you need him?

billie1b · 27-05-2019 8:35pm

emo72 wrote: »

Dc3? took off this evening? I thought that's what I saw. Where's Kenny when you need him?

Heading the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D day on 6th June

EchoIndia · 27-05-2019 9:30pm

billie1b wrote: »

Heading the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D day on 6th June

Expected to depart Weston tomorrow (Tuesday).

billie1b · 27-05-2019 10:36pm

EchoIndia wrote: »

Expected to depart Weston tomorrow (Tuesday).

Maybe it is yeah

billie1b · 28-05-2019 10:22am

EchoIndia wrote: »

Expected to depart Weston tomorrow (Tuesday).

Any idea of an ETD?

Davidth88 · 28-05-2019 12:01pm

billie1b wrote: »

Any idea of an ETD?

About 15 mins ago.... just went over my house lovely sound.

Kenny2012 · 30-05-2019 6:10pm

G-CHTA Grumman-American AA-5A Cheetah
G-DYLN PC-12 Oriens Leasing
M-KELY EMB500 Kelly Air

Pictures
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G-DYLN https://flic.kr/p/2g5DB46
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Kenny2012 · 30-05-2019 6:13pm

emo72 wrote: »

Dc3? took off this evening? I thought that's what I saw. Where's Kenny when you need him?

Unfortunately I have to work sometimes:)

Kenny2012 · 17-06-2019 8:45pm

HB-CCR Cessna T210N Turbo Centurion Haltergemeinschaft Airplay
M-KELY EMB505 Kelly Air
N90YA Cessna 425 Corsair Southern Aircraft Consultancy Inc
PH-ROD Piper PA-46-350P Malibu J Vlasveld

Pictures
HB-CCR https://flic.kr/p/2gfJz5S
M-KELY https://flic.kr/p/2gfNyRU
N90YA https://flic.kr/p/2gfMVCG
PH-ROD https://flic.kr/p/2gfMAXF

Davidth88 · 18-06-2019 1:56pm

Saw the EMB505 leaving last night around 5pm

Kenny2012 · 23-06-2019 11:26pm

M-CICO Falcon 50 BZ Air

It visited Weston before on 28/5/2012.

Picture
M-CICO https://flic.kr/p/2giHZu2

Davidth88 · 24-06-2019 7:56am

Kenny2012 wrote: »

M-CICO Falcon 50 BZ Air

Yep saw that depart around 16:00 on Sunday .... how the other half live eh !

Kenny2012 · 29-06-2019 12:59pm

EC-NCJ Cessna 560XLS+ Citation Excel Miguel Larranaga
G-BJDW Reims Cessna F172M Skyhawk Hardman Aviation
G-BOOF Piper PA-28-181 Archer II Blackbushe Flying Club
G-CBVX Cessna 182P Skylane Simon Brenchley
SE-MLR Diamond DA42NG Twinstar M Lab AB

Pictures
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G-BJDW https://flic.kr/p/2gmVXdY
G-BOOF https://flic.kr/p/2gmVHkX
G-CBVX https://flic.kr/p/2gmVVqt
SE-MLR https://flic.kr/p/2gmWDAX

emo72 · 28-07-2019 2:05pm

There's a couple of planes going to Bray from there. Anyone got a list?

Davidth88 · 29-07-2019 7:46am

I went down yesterday afternoon on the off-chance

Saw the Royal Jordanians, the Ravens and the SU31

Worth a spin ......

emo72 · 15-12-2019 8:27pm

theres a big marquee circus tent thingy up there. whats going on lads?

Stealthirl · 15-12-2019 10:18pm

Facebook Christmas party :cool:

emo72 · 16-12-2019 10:47am

Stealthirl wrote: »

Facebook Christmas party :cool:

its absolutely huge. some party.

Gaoth Laidir · 16-12-2019 3:34pm

This is it now, taken from the carpark 500 m away.

L1011 · 16-12-2019 3:35pm

Because a tent outdoors is such a great location for a Christmas party in Ireland!

shanec1928 · 16-12-2019 4:18pm

L1011 wrote: »

Because a tent outdoors is such a great location for a Christmas party in Ireland!

industrial heaters are a great thing!

emo72 · 19-07-2020 1:07pm

What's the plan for Weston to get up and running again?

zuutroy · 19-07-2020 4:07pm

Have only heard rumours, but none of them are positive.

sparrowcar · 19-07-2020 4:34pm

Interesting thing I found online today...

IRELAND KILCOCK NEW DUBLIN AREA AIRPORT - INITIAL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AIRPORT MASTER PLAN
Areas of Expertise: Airport Master Planning
Country: Europe and North America: Ireland

LEAPP was commissioned by a private sector firm of contractors to carry out a feasibility study for a new greenfield airport west of Dublin near Kilcock in County Meath, so that it could supplement Dublin International Airport for regional European jet aircraft services, as well as wide body passenger, charter and cargo operations. LEAPP undertook a site investigation, carried out obstacle analysis and studied the feasibility of integrated instrument operations with those of Dublin International Airport. Based on the traffic requirements established for the new airport, LEAPP determined the facility requirements, such as runway length and strength, passenger terminal size and cargo facilities, as well as all required support facilities for an operational regional international airport serving scheduled and charter traffic, low cost carriers, and general aviation corporate jet operations. LEAPP prepared options for development of the airport and the ultimate airport master plan. A preliminary costing of the first phase of airport development was also carried out.

19-07-2020 4:53pm

emo72 wrote: »

What's the plan for Weston to get up and running again?

It's for sale apparently.

19-07-2020 4:55pm

sparrowcar wrote: »

Interesting thing I found online today...

IRELAND KILCOCK NEW DUBLIN AREA AIRPORT - INITIAL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AIRPORT MASTER PLAN
Areas of Expertise: Airport Master Planning
Country: Europe and North America: Ireland

LEAPP was commissioned by a private sector firm of contractors to carry out a feasibility study for a new greenfield airport west of Dublin near Kilcock in County Meath, so that it could supplement Dublin International Airport for regional European jet aircraft services, as well as wide body passenger, charter and cargo operations. LEAPP undertook a site investigation, carried out obstacle analysis and studied the feasibility of integrated instrument operations with those of Dublin International Airport. Based on the traffic requirements established for the new airport, LEAPP determined the facility requirements, such as runway length and strength, passenger terminal size and cargo facilities, as well as all required support facilities for an operational regional international airport serving scheduled and charter traffic, low cost carriers, and general aviation corporate jet operations. LEAPP prepared options for development of the airport and the ultimate airport master plan. A preliminary costing of the first phase of airport development was also carried out.

Checks date.....no not april, but another waste of money report.

zuutroy · 19-07-2020 8:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's for sale apparently.

I heard literally the opposite where someone wanted to buy it and was knocked back!

sparrowcar · 19-07-2020 9:00pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Checks date.....no not april, but another waste of money report.

I couldn't find any date attached to it. What did you find out of curiosity?

19-07-2020 10:59pm

sparrowcar wrote: »

I couldn't find any date attached to it. What did you find out of curiosity?

I meant April fools, as in this is a joke if someone thinks you can build an airport there of all places.

19-07-2020 11:01pm

zuutroy wrote: »

I heard literally the opposite where someone wanted to buy it and was knocked back!

I haven't had it confirmed. I would imagine that if someone wanted to buy it it would be knocked back unless it was a mad high bid.

Depends on what they were offering to buy as well and if they wanted to buy it as a going concern.

Why isn't it open ?

zuutroy · 20-07-2020 10:26am

I'm not sure tbh. Maybe it just wasn't doing huge business for the owners and this was the opportunity to cut it off while they figure out what to do?

20-07-2020 10:36am

zuutroy wrote: »

I'm not sure tbh. Maybe it just wasn't doing huge business for the owners and this was the opportunity to cut it off while they figure out what to do?

Well with the constant hocking out of the airfield for concerts, circuses, drag races, car days and then their begging on their Facebook page for ideas and expressions of interest for the airfield as a venue I’d say they aren’t doing well.

If you can’t make money as an airfield when aviation was soaring.........

L1011 · 20-07-2020 11:21am

I'd be very surprised if we don't see at least a testing the waters of zoning there in the next few years. Land is insanely valuable there; but as far as I can see its not zoned for anything at all on the Kildare side (its outside both the Celbridge and Leixlip plan boundaries) and I can't actually find the SDCC maps.

Stovepipe · 20-07-2020 1:16pm

Weston was mooted for housing well back into the old Kennedy era. Given how quickly Baldonnel has become surrounded by industrial parks, you could well see Weston sold for commercial use. One of the reasons Weston was extended, was for business jets related to the computer giants up the road, being able to land there, which doesnt appear to have happened, as virtually all business traffic goes to Dublin, because Weston is too restricted in operation. Private aircraft operators were also being dicked around by management and they voted with their feet and their wallets and moved out.

Gaoth Laidir · 20-07-2020 2:48pm

What would the Weston nimby residents then say to having the added traffic of hundreds of new houses in the area instead of the occasional buzz of a C152? The divil you know...

20-07-2020 2:51pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

What would the Weston nimby residents then say to having the added traffic of hundreds of new houses in the area instead of the occasional buzz of a C152? The divil you know...

The same people who live 100m from the 8 lane N4 ?

Davidth88 · 20-07-2020 3:56pm

I was wondering why it hadn't re-opened

really miss the GA about the place.

As someone said, better the devil you know I for one would prefer the odd C172 to another 1000 houses ( or more )

My friend who flies used to say he wouldn't land there because the fees were daft. That could explain the lack of visitors when it was open

zuutroy · 20-07-2020 4:11pm

€20 landing fee for a place with an 850x25 m hard runway with an instrument approach, full ATC, and relatively close to Dublin isn't that bad surely.

Masala · 20-07-2020 4:54pm

Davidth88 wrote: »

I was wondering why it hadn't re-opened

really miss the GA about the place.

As someone said, better the devil you know I for one would prefer the odd C172 to another 1000 houses ( or more )

My friend who flies used to say he wouldn't land there because the fees were daft. That could explain the lack of visitors when it was open

Never can understand how people who can get involved in an expensive hobby like owning an aircraft and all the associated costs of same then complain about the price of landing and fuel!!! its like buying a €100k Lamborghini and then complaining about the amount of fuel it drinks!

phonypony · 20-07-2020 5:54pm

Masala wrote: »

Never can understand how people who can get involved in an expensive hobby like owning an aircraft and all the associated costs of same then complain about the price of landing and fuel!!! its like buying a €100k Lamborghini and then complaining about the amount of fuel it drinks!

Relatively few private pilots go down the route of ownership. So it's more like hiring a €100k Lamborghini for two hours because that's all you can afford and trying to keep your other costs as low as possible so you can get as much fun out of it as possible.

Aviation appears to have been actively driven from the airfield via increased costs for both visiting and based aircraft. There has been little regard in recent years for the community it is supposed to be serving. Such a shame.

Stovepipe · 20-07-2020 7:20pm

Landing fees for small general aviation aircraft,in Ireland, are actually quite low and only the bigger airfields have them. Compared to a lot of European countries, we get off lightly. It's when you land in some airports in the UK and Europe and then find that you are being stung for "compulsory" handling, ie, you must use the services of a handling company,who will charge you to bring you a short distance to their terminal and you will be charged thru the nose for weather information (free in America) and access to a toilet,before you pay the airport the landing fee, navigation fee, and any other fee they can think of (like the "development" tenner at Knock). It's part of the reason why flight training is so expensive in Europe, the add-on fees outside the control of the flying school. It's one of the reasons why the number of student starts has been falling for years.......General aviation (which includes business jets, by the way) is always struggling to pay it's way and make a profit and operating in Europe is much more expensive than America or Canada.

HTCOne · 20-07-2020 8:35pm

Stovepipe wrote: »

One of the reasons Weston was extended, was for business jets related to the computer giants up the road, being able to land there, which doesnt appear to have happened, as virtually all business traffic goes to Dublin, because Weston is too restricted

Prior to the GFC, the banks used to send in a few Citations and the like a day, moving executives and legal paperwork etc around. Callsigns of the operators were “Lonex” and “Excalibur”. Don’t think they ever came back.

Stealthirl · 26-07-2020 1:18am

After the last sale i felt it was inevitable that it would eventually end up with light industrial and housing going in. It may take a long time but if it's not making money how could it stay open.

Petrol Head_Pilot · 28-07-2020 5:39pm

I'd like to know what the situation is. I was flying there until operations ceased.

An announcement of some sort would be nice. I know the National Flight Centre have now gone to Abbeyshurle and I heard Weston were selling off their supply of avgas recently.

I need to find a new flight school to keep current and fresh but I'd like to know if Weston are going to reopen as it is a nice place to fly in and out of.

zuutroy · 28-07-2020 6:51pm

Well the NOTAM expires on Friday, so all will be revealed then I guess. Latest I heard is that NFC are expecting to be back there in August but I've heard everything at this stage!

Oscar Bravo · 28-07-2020 9:27pm

Grass cut today on the sides of the taxiways etc. looks like operations will resume soon.

Weston Airport

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