Madeleine McCann

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:34AM

splinter65 wrote: »

But we don’t know what your opinion is to either accept or not accept?

You presume I care what you think, I don't.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 01:36AM

Strumms wrote: »

It’s the most weird, mysterious, fûcked up crime and subsequent investigation I’ve heard of. I’m willing to believe that nobody will ever be held accountable... unless a third party say a friend or family members knows or stumbled upon something, say via a drunken admission or whatever, or a body turns up.

Do the police now KNOW what happened and just lack the direct evidence to prove it, or is it a mystery to them like it is us.

The German police found evidence on hard drives buried under the main suspects pet dog that would indicate that Madeleine is dead and that the suspect is responsible for that.
They just don’t have forensic evidence to back it up yet, such as a body etc.
There were thousands of other images & videos of children being violently and sexually abused found too. He should never see the light of day again, he’s beyond redemption as far as I can see.

splinter65 · 18-07-2020 01:39AM

maebee wrote: »

What? I didn't say he disposed of the body . I thought it was very strange that he was laughing and joking days after his 3 year old daughter was "abducted".

If my child was presumed abducted, I would not be laughing and joking. And I would be not not jogging and blogging about my running times.

It’s absolutely impossible to find any pictures of the McCanns grieving. Except for these:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9G0MwS6Qp7I/WpghEg1c5VI/AAAAAAAABBM/_GRBxK889tI7vZlrCUcoJz6uT47FrGBYQCLcBGAs/s1600/Mikki%2527s%2Bmontage.jpg

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:42AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

The German police found evidence on hard drives buried under the main suspects pet dog that would indicate that Madeleine is dead and that the suspect is responsible for that.
They just don’t have forensic evidence to back it up yet, such as a body etc.
There were thousands of other images & videos of children being violently and sexually abused found too. He should never see the light of day again, he’s beyond redemption as far as I can see.

Is this the same German police that said she is dead and then said she maybe not dead?

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:43AM

splinter65 wrote: »

It’s absolutely impossible to find any pictures of the McCanns grieving. Except for these:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9G0MwS6Qp7I/WpghEg1c5VI/AAAAAAAABBM/_GRBxK889tI7vZlrCUcoJz6uT47FrGBYQCLcBGAs/s1600/Mikki%2527s%2Bmontage.jpg

For the cameras.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 01:45AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Is this the same German police that said she is dead and then said she maybe not dead?

That’s not what the prosecutor, Hans Christian Walters said. He said they have evidence that she is dead but not enough to prove it in a trial, hence the appeals to the public to try to gather more evidence.
But if that’s how you want to spin it then knock yourself out, I won’t argue with you.

Rock77 · 18-07-2020 01:46AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Is this the same German police that said she is dead and then said she maybe not dead?

No, this is the same German police that said they have evidence that strongly suggests she is dead but without a body they cannot of course be certain she is dead. Not that complicated really.

Strumms · 18-07-2020 01:46AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

The German police found evidence on hard drives buried under the main suspects pet dog that would indicate that Madeleine is dead and that the suspect is responsible for that.
They just don’t have forensic evidence to back it up yet, such as a body etc.
There were thousands of other images & videos of children being violently and sexually abused found too. He should never see the light of day again, he’s beyond redemption as far as I can see.

Yeah CB... not sure if it’s appropriate to name him but fûck, odd wouldn't begin to cover that chap... seedy as fûck.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 01:46AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

For the cameras.

Right. And that’s why they’ve kept the case in the public eye at all costs despite the endless abuse they’ve received from people like you for over 13 years now.
So that they can pretend to be distressed for lols.

maebee · 18-07-2020 01:47AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

The German police found evidence on hard drives buried under the main suspects pet dog that would indicate that Madeleine is dead and that the suspect is responsible for that.
They just don’t have forensic evidence to back it up yet, such as a body etc.
There were thousands of other images & videos of children being violently and sexually abused found too. He should never see the light of day again, he’s beyond redemption as far as I can see.

Without doubt CB is a nasty piece of work. I hope he rots in hell for all his crimes. He is one of the many patsys in this case. What is needed is an independent inquiry into the case of Madeleine's disappearance, which will never happen, due to politics.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:47AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

That’s not what the prosecutor, Hans Christian Walters said. He said they have evidence that she is dead but not enough to prove it in a trial, hence the appeals to the public to try to gather more evidence.
But if that’s how you want to spin it then knock yourself out, I won’t argue with you.

Actually I have read what the German prosecutor has said, it's confused at best. I don't need to spin anything. I do however notice one of the main contributers here has disappeared. I wonder why.

Rock77 · 18-07-2020 01:48AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

For the cameras.

Guys to me this post clearly shows exactly what this poster is up to.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:49AM

maebee wrote: »

Without doubt CB is a nasty piece of work. I hope he rots in hell for all his crimes. He is one of the many patsys in this case. What is needed is an independent inquiry into the case of Madeleine's disappearance, which will never happen, due to politics.

Colin Sutton one of the Mets most successful detectives refused to be considered to lead the investigation as he would had one hand tied behind his back. Certain avenues were to be closed.

Rock77 · 18-07-2020 01:53AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Colin Sutton one of the Mets most successful detectives refused to be considered to lead the investigation as he would had one hand tied behind his back. Certain avenues were to be closed.

This poster is relentless... but I did promise him I’d be there to call him out even though he’s ignoring me!!

The Met have never said that any avenues in their investigation would be closed off.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 01:55AM

maebee wrote: »

Without doubt CB is a nasty piece of work. I hope he rots in hell for all his crimes. He is one of the many patsys in this case. What is needed is an independent inquiry into the case of Madeleine's disappearance, which will never happen, due to politics.

He was a convicted pedophile, rapist and burglar living in the immediate area who had previously sexually attacked little toddlers, who confessed to his mate that he knows exactly what happened to Madeleine.
His phone pinged off the mast at the Ocean Club Complex where the McCanns were staying at roughly the same time Madeleine went missing.
He then deregistered his van the next day.
When searched, his van contained several swimsuits for little girls which he has no business owning seeing as he doesn’t have any kids of his own.
And not to mention the fact that hard drives were found buried on his property that contained evidence to suggest he was responsible for Madeleines disappearance and death.

And you are still trying to say he’s some poor patsy, being blamed for something he didn’t do despite the monumental damning evidence stacking up to say that he is responsible. It’s actually unbelievable.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 01:58AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Right. And that’s why they’ve kept the case in the public eye at all costs despite the endless abuse they’ve received from people like you for over 13 years now.
So that they can pretend to be distressed for lols.

I've said it multiple times the child never left the apartment alive. How her death occurred is a mystery as by whom or whether it was intentional or an accident. This is what I think the disposal of her body is the issue. Years ago a dog died belonging to my son I was on lunch and discovered her body. I had no time to bury her so put her in bag and then the bin. I felt so bad the rest of the day afterwards I was happy to bury her when I went home. I don't get the feeling the McCanns would feel the same as I did. They came across as quite cold, but again that's my opinion.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 02:01AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

He was a convicted pedophile, rapist and burglar living in the immediate area who had previously sexually attacked little toddlers, who confessed to his mate that he knows exactly what happened to Madeleine.
His phone pinged off the mast at the Ocean Club Complex where the McCanns were staying at roughly the same time Madeleine went missing.
He then deregistered his van the next day.
When searched, his van contained several swimsuits for little girls which he has no business owning seeing as he doesn’t have any kids of his own.
And not to mention the fact that hard drives were found buried on his property that contained evidence to suggest he was responsible for Madeleines disappearance and death.

And you are still trying to say he’s some poor patsy, being blamed for something he didn’t do despite the monumental damning evidence stacking up to say that he is responsible. It’s actually unbelievable.

Want evidence? Circumstantial or your thoughts mean zip.

Sand · 18-07-2020 02:03AM

Rock77 wrote: »

Guys to me this post clearly shows exactly what this poster is up to.

The username alone points to it.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 02:03AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I've said it multiple times the child never left the apartment alive. How her death occurred is a mystery as by whom or whether it was intentional or an accident. This is what I think the disposal of her body is the issue. Years ago a dog died belonging to my son I was on lunch and discovered her body. I had no time to bury her so put her in bag and then the bin. I felt so bad the rest of the day afterwards I was happy to bury her when I went home. I don't get the feeling the McCanns would feel the same as I did. They came across as quite cold, but again that's my opinion.

So you think you felt worse about your sons dog passing away than the McCanns did about their 3 year old disappearing? You think you cared more about your child’s pet than they did their daughter?
And this is based on the fact that you think they are cold people? Wow.

splinter65 · 18-07-2020 02:04AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You presume I care what you think, I don't.

Yet you repeatedly respond to me instead of putting me on ignore. That’s not the behaviour of someone who doesn’t care. You also labour under the misapprehension that you are not only entitled to an opinion (you are, though we don’t know what it is) but that opinion can’t be challenged. It can.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 02:06AM

SusieBlue wrote: »

So you think you felt worse about your sons dog passing away than the McCanns did about their 3 year old disappearing? You think you cared more about your child’s pet than they did their daughter?
And this is based on the fact that you think they are cold people? Wow.

Wow exactly, I think they are strange people . The company they kept their behaviour doesn't change what I think.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 02:07AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Want evidence? Circumstantial or your thoughts mean zip.

Except for the part where the German police have said that they have evidence from the hard drives found on CB’s property that is responsible for Madeleines disappearance and death, which ties all the other ‘circumstantial’ evidence up nicely.

Ironic that you’re calling out my post for being circumstantial, when there was deafening silence on your part when someone tried to imply Gerry was guilty because he was seen laughing a few days later.
It’s only circumstantial when it’s to suit you.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 02:08AM

splinter65 wrote: »

Yet you repeatedly respond to me instead of putting me on ignore. That’s not the behaviour of someone who doesn’t care. You also labour under the misapprehension that you are not only entitled to an opinion (you are, though we don’t know what it is) but that opinion can’t be challenged. It can.

Funny thing ignore doesn't work on the mobile site, but the lack of inaction with you is evident.
Anyway keep up your posting style, I hope it works out this time.

SusieBlue · 18-07-2020 02:09AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Wow exactly, I think they are strange people . The company they kept their behaviour doesn't change what I think.

Them being strange or cold does not make them murderers.
Quite arrogant for you to assume you cared more about your sons dog than they did their missing toddler, you have no idea how or what they feel or how awful their lives have been since that day in 2007.

splinter65 · 18-07-2020 02:10AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

For the cameras.

Now we’re getting somewhere. You have evidence that there was no grieving when there was no cameras. Ok. Can you give me a link?

splinter65 · 18-07-2020 02:11AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Funny thing ignore doesn't work on the mobile site, but the lack of inaction with you is evident.
Anyway keep up your posting style, I hope it works out this time.

Keep reporting the posts. You’ll get lucky eventually.

Day Lewin · 18-07-2020 08:30AM

(Throws bucket of water over scrapping terriers)

Back to business!

There's one mystery that continues to present as utterly baffling:
( I mean, apart from child missing, no body, no trail etc)

WHY would any government or police force have any stake in "not investigating" any angle?
If the British officer turned it down because he thought he wouldn't be ALLOWED to investigate certain angles...I mean, WHY?

The bereaved parents aren't the Royal Family, they aren't stinking rich, they don't own the BBC or work for the Kremlin or anything like that...I can't think of any reason why a detective would be forbidden to look into ALL angles.

For any missing child, that would include their parents, immediate family, neighbours, people seen nearby, known criminals in the area, any unusual incidents in the time-frame - EVERYTHING.

A professional investigation would have been helpful, maybe. So why this puzzle?

I just can't think of any reason why the Portuguese or the British authorities wouldn't wish to solve the case.

buttercups88 · 18-07-2020 08:45AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Is this the same German police that said she is dead and then said she maybe not dead?

Playing catch up here but they said she is dead based on the evidence they have on hard drives but are unable to confirm it with forensic evidence so even though it may be clear in the images she is dead without being able to identify her using forensics they cant say it is her 100%

Same way as if a body is found in a search for a missing person, the police can only say they believe it to be the missing person but cant confirm it until they are able to prove it is

MonsterCookie · 18-07-2020 08:53AM

buttercups88 wrote: »

Playing catch up here but they said she is dead based on the evidence they have on hard drives but are unable to confirm it with forensic evidence so even though it may be clear in the images she is dead without being able to identify her using forensics they cant say it is her 100%

Same way as if a body is found in a search for a missing person, the police can only say they believe it to be the missing person but cant confirm it until they are able to prove it is

that's my interpretation also, more or less.

it's clear that they have said just enough in their appeal for information and there is a lot more they could say but won't in order not to jeopardise the case they are trying to build.

it's amazing that for one or two posters, they feel the need to fixate on so called conflicting infromation emanating from the German prosecutor. Keep an open mind people! we don't know as much as the germans.

let's hope they are keeping the family informed privately and things are progressing one way or the other.

splinter65 · 18-07-2020 08:54AM

Day Lewin wrote: »

(Throws bucket of water over scrapping terriers)

Back to business!

There's one mystery that continues to present as utterly baffling:
( I mean, apart from child missing, no body, no trail etc)

WHY would any government or police force have any stake in "not investigating" any angle?
If the British officer turned it down because he thought he wouldn't be ALLOWED to investigate certain angles...I mean, WHY?

The bereaved parents aren't the Royal Family, they aren't stinking rich, they don't own the BBC or work for the Kremlin or anything like that...I can't think of any reason why a detective would be forbidden to look into ALL angles.

For any missing child, that would include their parents, immediate family, neighbours, people seen nearby, known criminals in the area, any unusual incidents in the time-frame - EVERYTHING.

A professional investigation would have been helpful, maybe. So why this puzzle?

I just can't think of any reason why the Portuguese or the British authorities wouldn't wish to solve the case.

But where is the evidence that every angle hasn’t/isn’t being investigated?

Madeleine McCann

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