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BloodBath · 16-07-2020 01:43PM

Knew that was fake when I read it. Nvidia aren't that stupid.

2 x 8 pins delivers over 300w of power anyway along with another 75w from the board.

Solitaire · 16-07-2020 04:38PM

Its possible that the "new" 12pin connector exists, but in fact was just something thrown together for power-testing on prototype PCBs - engineering samples tend to wind up with plenty of bespoke or over-engineered features while stuff is being fine-tuned (or in some cases tested to near-destruction). If the bigger Amperes do pull big power its likely they used this 12pin arrangement for testing to see how much performance would be lost running the chips at various points around the 300-375W zone with all CUs still enabled.

Just saw the reddit and according to a recent post allegedly the source is now doubling down on their original claims and is claiming that the fabrication and sarcasm comments were mistranslated and all this 400W malarkey really is a thing now. Probably just more horsepoop... but this kind of thing can't always be 100% ruled out when nVidia are about to launch a new architecture

Shiminay · 16-07-2020 07:41PM

Gerald builds a PC...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCs-N1Eh2Z5/

.G. · 16-07-2020 07:56PM

His AIO tubes sitting on his GPU backplate has upset me

Aodhan5000 · 16-07-2020 09:49PM

Whatever about AIO tubes, I was holding my breath as he put in that cpu

Inviere · 17-07-2020 06:40AM

Inviere wrote: »

If I wanted a really small lcd screen, purely to manage bios settings in a headless Unraid build....would something like this work - https://www.amazon.de/Kuman-Raspberry-Generation-Display-Monitor/dp/B07D49C1XJ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2UMA2ZZIBJXI8&dchild=1&keywords=lcd+screen&qid=1594795532&sprefix=lcd+screen%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-6

^^ Obviously it'll work in the sense that it receives a signal over HDMI...but would it properly scale a native bios resolution, allowing me to see the whole screen?

Anyone?

Cuddlesworth · 17-07-2020 08:18AM

Inviere wrote: »

Anyone?

Seems like a waste of money. Why would you be heading into the bios so often to go to that effort? If thats the case, why not just get a board or system with IMPI or pick up a cheap dell/lenovo/hp with Intel AMT.

Inviere · 17-07-2020 09:51AM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Seems like a waste of money. Why would you be heading into the bios so often to go to that effort? If thats the case, why not just get a board or system with IMPI or pick up a cheap dell/lenovo/hp with Intel AMT.

I don't need to do it often, but it would be handy at times. Currently I've to lift the whole server into another room to connect it up to the tv...so it's really impractical if I've to make any changes. It'd be very handy to have a cheap, small, screen there for the rare time I need it.

I don't fancy changing the motherboard out just to make bios changes, a cheap screen makes more sense....but I'm unsure of those small/cheap screens would display the bios screen properly or not...

Cuddlesworth · 17-07-2020 11:05AM

Inviere wrote: »

I don't need to do it often, but it would be handy at times. Currently I've to lift the whole server into another room to connect it up to the tv...so it's really impractical if I've to make any changes. It'd be very handy to have a cheap, small, screen there for the rare time I need it.

I don't fancy changing the motherboard out just to make bios changes, a cheap screen makes more sense....but I'm unsure of those small/cheap screens would display the bios screen properly or not...

I mean, I just have a old 17 inch LCD and keyboard/mouse around for that purpose. You can get them for a tenner off adverts.

jonski · 17-07-2020 12:44PM

Is it worth trading up a 1080 for a 2070 super ? or is it too small a jump ?

Just looking at the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super WINDFORCE OC 3x 8G for £479 on Amazon .

SickBoy · 17-07-2020 01:01PM

jonski wrote: »

Is it worth trading up a 1080 for a 2070 super ? or is it too small a jump ?

Just looking at the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super WINDFORCE OC 3x 8G for £479 on Amazon .

It's about the same performance as a 1080ti with less vram.
Costly upgrade for ~25% IMO.

Now, if you have a buyer already lined up for your 1080 and the cost of upgrade is reasonable then it might make sense.

Aodhan5000 · 17-07-2020 01:07PM

Might not be a bad idea to stick up that 1080 on adverts and then buy the 2070S after. I was looking at buying a 1080 but the prices on adverts are insane and people are actually paying those prices. Seen plenty of em go for around the 350/400 mark so if you could ship your one off for that it might not be too expensive an upgrade however next gen is around the corner so that's something to consider

Robert ninja · 17-07-2020 05:54PM

Inviere wrote: »

screens would display the bios screen properly or not...

Pretty sure BIOS n' such are made for small resolutions, right? I remember seeing a picture of Memtest86 running on a 4K screen and it looked like a dot

The only problem would be your eyesight at that point.

Robert ninja · 17-07-2020 11:52PM

I've been looking at vertical mice like https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vertical-Veeki-Ergonomic-Notebook-Prevention-Black , https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FPAVUHC and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zeerkeer-Vertical-Ergonomic-Mouse-Joystick/dp/B07VXKF5G4

Anyone have gaming experience with such mice? My mind's been on ergonomics a lot lately and these seem worth an investment. I think they'll probably be fine for general tasks but I'm a little worried about gaming.

Inviere · 18-07-2020 06:52AM

Robert ninja wrote: »

Pretty sure BIOS n' such are made for small resolutions, right? I remember seeing a picture of Memtest86 running on a 4K screen and it looked like a dot The only problem would be your eyesight at that point.

Cheers thanks. Where the server is I really don't have space for a desk monitor...so a small screen would be ideal. I might just take the risk, cheers

jonski · 18-07-2020 09:45AM

SickBoy wrote: »

It's about the same performance as a 1080ti with less vram.
Costly upgrade for ~25% IMO.

Now, if you have a buyer already lined up for your 1080 and the cost of upgrade is reasonable then it might make sense.

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

Might not be a bad idea to stick up that 1080 on adverts and then buy the 2070S after. I was looking at buying a 1080 but the prices on adverts are insane and people are actually paying those prices. Seen plenty of em go for around the 350/400 mark so if you could ship your one off for that it might not be too expensive an upgrade however next gen is around the corner so that's something to consider

I'm not even sure what put the idea in my head , maybe it was the fan noise when I play Red Dead in Ultra

. I have the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0, 8GB GDDR5X and it was probably tech news articles singing the praises of the 2070 super plus the son is looking at upgrading his PC so I thought I could give him the 1080 @ mates rates

, given that he is earning and I am not

.

K.O.Kiki · 18-07-2020 03:14PM

I really feel like GN had a huge impact on case design; they were one of the first outlets to really highlight how bad the new trend of closed-front cases was.
Glad that manufacturers responded with good airflow cases.
Kinda makes me regret my Define R6 lol

wotzgoingon · 18-07-2020 03:52PM

I've a closed front case but you can pop the cover off in seconds so it is fully open then if you wanted more air for a demanding game or benchmark.

Revoker88 · 18-07-2020 06:21PM

I've a Coolermaster H500M sitting in the house for the last year unopened. That video makes me feel like i should changed off my NZXT H400 a lot sooner.

Nephew is building a PC soon so ill give him the NZXT and move into the coolermaster case.

K.O.Kiki · 18-07-2020 08:05PM

Robert ninja wrote: »

I've been looking at vertical mice like https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vertical-Veeki-Ergonomic-Notebook-Prevention-Black , https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FPAVUHC and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zeerkeer-Vertical-Ergonomic-Mouse-Joystick/dp/B07VXKF5G4

Anyone have gaming experience with such mice? My mind's been on ergonomics a lot lately and these seem worth an investment. I think they'll probably be fine for general tasks but I'm a little worried about gaming.

https://www.tested.com/tech/accessories/817768-testing-ergonomics-vertical-mice/

I don't think I've seen any proper science to support ergonomic mice though*, and the sensors will be bad.
If playing FPS games, worry more about getting a mouse to suit your hand, practice good posture & do some arm/wrist exercises.

*links to the contrary appreciated

Robert ninja · 19-07-2020 04:21AM

The dude's grip from the 1st video is exactly the way I hold mine. However I turned my mouse to the side and moved it around like a vertical mouse and I just felt a lot less pressure in my arm. It overall just felt nice and somehow more natural, too. I don't know if that is true for an actual vertical mouse with prolonged use or gaming, though.

I didn't see any science on it either but I just throught it seemed obvious because you don't natrually rest your hand on a surface flat down. They kinda tilt to their knucles, at least for me... Most of these things come down to personal comfort rather than any science anyway.

I've been following this video before every stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6y0D_8kRoU

I added it to my OBS launch script so it actually plays in mpv automatically so I can't ignore it.

Shiminay · 19-07-2020 07:02AM

I got a vertical mouse for work last year - just a cheapo Anker one for less than €20 off Amazon (link). I don't have any RSI or carpel tunnel issues, but prevention is better than cure and the difference was noticeable almost straight away. If you're more interested in spending a few quid, by all accounts the Logitech MX Vertical seems to get good reviews all round.

Aodhan5000 · 19-07-2020 11:23AM

Well you could just use a vertical mouse for office stuff etc. and switch over to a normal one for gaming

Skerries · 20-07-2020 03:08PM

maherhonda · 20-07-2020 10:45PM

Hi Folks,

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade for a friend on his PC. He really just wants to keep it going and would be happy at low to medium settings on 1080P.
He'll probably fork out on a new PC in the new year after the consoles arrive.

Current Specs:
I5-4460
4GB*2 ram sticks - Matx board
GTX 970
550 watt Corsair VS Series.
256GB SSD + 1TB HD.

Cex: I7-4770 95 euro
Cex: 2*8GB - 60 euro

Total 155 Euro

AlmightyCushion · 20-07-2020 11:29PM

maherhonda wrote: »

Hi Folks,

Would this be a worthwhile upgrade for a friend on his PC. He really just wants to keep it going and would be happy at low to medium settings on 1080P.
He'll probably fork out on a new PC in the new year after the consoles arrive.

Current Specs:
I5-4460
4GB*2 ram sticks - Matx board
GTX 970
550 watt Corsair VS Series.
256GB SSD + 1TB HD.
Cex: I7-4770 95 euro
Cex: 2*8GB - 60 euro

Total 155 Euro

I've considered that processor upgrade and it just isn't worth the price. €100 for a 4770 is just a rip off considering the small increase in performance.

maherhonda · 21-07-2020 12:08AM

How about this.

https://m.ebay.ie/itm/Intel-Xeon-E3-1241-V3-3-50GHz-8MB-LGA-1150-Quad-Core-SR1R4-CPU-Processor/264797148145?hash=item3da723d3f1:g:0i4AAOSwQ3le-NUm

K.O.Kiki · 21-07-2020 08:20AM

Those are good; had one in my first rig instead of i7-4770 as they were about €80 cheaper.

Revoker88 · 21-07-2020 11:31AM

I wouodnt be buying a 4770 thinking its a big upgrade but 4c/4t is really starting to have issues in modern games. Frame drops,stuttering etc so its not all about raw numbers. If your looking for a big performance jump for not much money you need to be looking at ryzen long term

In that sense the 4770 with 4c/8t might be an option short term. €100 does sound a bit to steep but might be able to get something for the 4460 aswell.

Your friend having any particular issues?

Homelander · 21-07-2020 02:02PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I've considered that processor upgrade and it just isn't worth the price. €100 for a 4770 is just a rip off considering the small increase in performance.

To be fair, there is a massive difference in performance in modern games. It's not about average frames, it's about minimum frames, where the i7 is miles better.

Games like BFV or Warzone are a headache on an i5-4460, they're completely fine on an i7-4770.

€95 is a pretty fair price for a zero hassle upgrade if you don't want to have to invest in a full new platform.

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