Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Bishop of hope · 16-07-2020 08:23AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Awh you OK?

While the FFG merger and Greens in Govt are a shambles and were not even 3 weeks in. MM with the biggest U turn in a few hours seen since his mate done one at a Garai checkpoint.
LV thinking he's in charge, telling us no reason phase 4 won't go ahead, less than 24 hours later, phase 4 will now not go ahead.
Eamonn Ryan less than 8 hours after voting against Cowen asw Qs in the Dáil says he has serious Qs to answer.

Then you come on here and it's IRA this, IRA that and many of the posters defending everything FFG have went quiet on other threads

Not much to defend as yet really.
FF are a shambles agreed, but govt business is going ahead.
A successful day in court yesterday that thankfully (because SF didn't get their hands on it) hasn't us in billions in debt to apple.
The usual SF rantings going on from where they're best served and best pleased to be, loud mouthed opposition benches.

Mortelaro · 16-07-2020 08:30AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Awh you OK?

While the FFG merger and Greens in Govt are a shambles and were not even 3 weeks in. MM with the biggest U turn in a few hours seen since his mate done one at a Garai checkpoint.
LV thinking he's in charge, telling us no reason phase 4 won't go ahead, less than 24 hours later, phase 4 will now not go ahead.

Did you get an F in the English language?

Leo Vradakar 's words were in relation to pubs:

"I do hope it will be possible for them to reopen,"

And in relation to the rest of stage 4,like stage 3,this depended on Nphet' s final advice, which is also what he said

dundalkfc10 · 16-07-2020 08:52AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Did you get an F in the English language?

Leo Vradakar 's words were in relation to pubs:

"I do hope it will be possible for them to reopen,"

And in relation to the rest of stage 4,like stage 3,this depended on Nphet' s final advice, which is also what he said

Leo said the increase in cases Monday and Tuesday not so enormous to prevent us going to phase 4.

Now don't be lying making up quotes.

Does it matter to you what grade I got in English? Or are you just gonna talk down to someone because you don't agree with their opinions. Your parents be so proud to bring up someone like you if that's the way you act.

Mortelaro · 16-07-2020 09:08AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Leo said the increase in cases Monday and Tuesday not so enormous to prevent us going to phase 4.

Now don't be lying making up quotes.

I'm not lying, you are

https://kclr96fm.com/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-says-he-hopes-all-pubs-will-be-able-to-re-open-from-monday/

Leo Vradakar wrote:

“I do hope it’s possible for them to reopen, I know there has been an update in new covid cases in the last week or two, but it’s still in the teens or twenty a day, we did think that there would be a slight increase in cases as we eased restrictions and I don’t think that the increase is so enormous that at this stage would prevent us moving to stage four but that isn’t the decision for me on my own, we need the advice from NPHET and the cabinet needs to decide”.

dundalkfc10 · 16-07-2020 09:23AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

I'm not lying, you are

https://kclr96fm.com/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-says-he-hopes-all-pubs-will-be-able-to-re-open-from-monday/

Whys he saying "I don’t think that the increase is so enormous that at this stage would prevent us moving to stage four" giving false hope to people, business owners, workers etc?

No reply to the fact, if someone disagrees with your opinion, you talk to them like a piece of ****e?

Mortelaro · 16-07-2020 09:27AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Whys he saying "I don’t think that the increase is so enormous that at this stage would prevent us moving to stage four" giving false hope to people, business owners, workers etc?

No reply to the fact, if someone disagrees with your opinion, you talk to them like a piece of ****e?

I said you were lying and you were
The whole of leo Vradakar's sentence is quoted above
He did not say in that quote that pubs would open
You said he did
He said that he hoped they would but it would be subject to Nphets latest advice and a cabinet decision

You were lying

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 09:35AM

christy c wrote: »

You also forgot making complete and utter fools of themselves by wanting to spend the money from Apple that was held in escrow.

Imagine how stupid we would look now if we did that.

In fairness Sinn Fein IRA have long history of spending money that doesn't belong to them. At least this time it wasn't going to involve kidnapping and terrorising a family

dundalkfc10 · 16-07-2020 09:38AM

Truthvader wrote: »

In fairness Sinn Fein IRA have long history of spending money that doesn't belong to them. At least this time it wasn't going to involve kidnapping and terrorising a family

The most popular party on the Island, doubt the majority of people call them Sinn Fein IRA

Mortelaro · 16-07-2020 09:41AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

leo Vradakar?

You get a NG in English?

Are you going to withdraw your lies?

christy c · 16-07-2020 09:55AM

Truthvader wrote: »

In fairness Sinn Fein IRA have long history of spending money that doesn't belong to them. At least this time it wasn't going to involve kidnapping and terrorising a family

I think people have made up their mind one way or another on the North, it's their completely ridiculous economic proposals (such as spending Apple's cash) which could swing people either way.

Yeah_Right · 16-07-2020 09:58AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Ya know SF are doing a fine job when the only form of attack is The IRA

They're the same thing.

FrancieBrady · 16-07-2020 10:03AM

markodaly wrote: »

So, in essence you agree that the murder of a 3-year-old toddler and 12-year-old boy did nothing to defend Nationalists in the North.

You'll no doubt twist this to suit what ever high moral ground you want to point from but in 'essence' here is what I believe. If you can understand the nuance and medium to difficult concept of understanding history and why things happen while still believing it shouldn't have happened and that none of it was 'justified'.

The IRA campaign, particularly in Britain towards the end of the conflict/war did bring pressure to bear on the British. The British had realised that the only solution to a conflict/war that was hurting them was to talk. The history shows their reaction when bombs went off in Britain. Canary Wharf, Manchester even Brighton all had their effects.

It's ok Mark, it is ok to be filled with revulsion and still accept that these actions had cause and effect.

In 'essence' and in the context of above, I do believe that Warrington (which was not intended to kill two young boys) was a part of that 'campaign' to bring Britain to the table in search of a deal/solution.

Now all you need to do is ask yourself or Nationalists if they feel the GFA protects their rights, identity and aspirations.

Tokyo · 16-07-2020 10:07AM

Mod: @dundalkfc10, @Mortelaro - it's like watching two kids bickering. Don't post in the thread again.

JohnnyFlash · 16-07-2020 10:14AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

They're the same thing.

I do think the funeral of Storey was a stark reminder of this. The sinister guard of honour made up of primarily of fat and tough looking men; the closing down of the cemetery to accommodate them; O’Neill getting a selfie with some of the back room team etc.

Not a normal party. That’s why their populism is so sinister.

FrancieBrady · 16-07-2020 10:24AM

christy c wrote: »

You also forgot making complete and utter fools of themselves by wanting to spend the money from Apple that was held in escrow.

Imagine how stupid we would look now if we did that.

Bit early to be calling that one christy. That was the court of first instance and no doubt will be appealed to a higher one.
Could yet turn out that Ireland partnered with Apple and dithered when there was much needed revenue to spend.

maccored · 16-07-2020 10:26AM

Truthvader wrote: »

In fairness Sinn Fein IRA have long history of spending money that doesn't belong to them. At least this time it wasn't going to involve kidnapping and terrorising a family

yet another fantabulous piece of info from truthvader. You should write for The Sun or something. Poor truth(e)vader, trying hard to wind people up (and failing)

maccored · 16-07-2020 10:28AM

markodaly wrote: »

I want to you to answer the question, on how the murder of two boys in Warrington help defend Nationalists in the north.

If you just say, it did nothing to defend Nationalists in the north, it would be a good first step of growth for you. Do you agree with me on this statement?

how did shooting an unarmed footballer crossing a border help the British?

As Ive said before, we can go all day listing deaths on each side

FrancieBrady · 16-07-2020 10:30AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I do think the funeral of Storey was a stark reminder of this. The sinister guard of honour made up of primarily of fat and tough looking men; the closing down of the cemetery to accommodate them; O’Neill getting a selfie with some of the back room team etc.

Not a normal party. That’s why their populism is so sinister.

What is this 'normal' party thing about?

Of course they are not 'normal', unless emerging from a 30-40 year conflict is 'normal'.

oh wait, we have very recent examples of how funerals of men and women who had emerged from a conflict and entered politics were held. So recent in fact I was at one. The funeral of an old IRA man. The engraved souvenir bullet casings of the bullets fired over his grave are among my dad's things.

'Normal'?

How is a part of this country that can only function because there is an international agreement between two sovereign countries be described as 'normal'.

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 10:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not a normal party is something you only hear the posh boys of fg say

Who curiously havnt called off their annual trip to beal na blaith next month yet........funny how the "phased" reopening lined up perfect for that :rolleyes:

Damn those posh boys always complaining about murder and thuggery. What the hell is wrong with them?

RandomViewer · 16-07-2020 10:43AM

maccored wrote: »

yet another fantabulous piece of info from truthvader. You should write for The Sun or something. Poor truth(e)vader, trying hard to wind people up (and failing)

He's an ex guard ,probably now a debt collector or a GoSafe van operator,

JohnnyFlash · 16-07-2020 10:47AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

No you mean you can't understand why the puplic found them more popular than FG in the Election.

It's still hurting, Leo thought he would walk the election and now cause SF are so popular he has to play second fiddle to MM.

Oh I can understand. Populist rhetoric, us vs them, slick social media campaign, promise people things they know they cannot deliver, hint of the old armalite and the balaclava off it all. Easy to fool gullible and poorly educated people with that guff.

LuasSimon · 16-07-2020 11:04AM

Are Sinn Fein still a republican party anymore?....Definitely in the south they seem more interested in Transgender issues and excusing traveller crime than a United Ireland??

jm08 · 16-07-2020 11:24AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I do think the funeral of Storey was a stark reminder of this. The sinister guard of honour made up of primarily of fat and tough looking men; the closing down of the cemetery to accommodate them; O’Neill getting a selfie with some of the back room team etc.

Not a normal party. That’s why their populism is so sinister.

I believe 250,000 people streamed that funeral. And you are factually incorrect about the guard of honour wearing the white shirt and black trousers - many were women and young people. They actually looked like a group of people who could have been in the civil defence helping out at an event.

How do you reconcile Bobby Storey's popularity with all these people who came to pay their respects at his funeral. Are they all abnormal as well? If so, how do you explain why so many people are 'abnormal'?

deemulryan · 16-07-2020 11:27AM

They knew they werent getting into government and took a back seat i think. Theyll pop back up when theres another scandal

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 12:13PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

He's an ex guard ,probably now a debt collector or a GoSafe van operator,

Only the Sinn Fein /IRA criminalised fanbase would regard calling someone an ex Guard as an insult. Thanks for yet another warning flag for all to see

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 12:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

At least they have dropped pretext of calling poor people "salt of the earth" and now their online support refers to anyone who dare vote for someone different as scum and murderers

Actually speaking of murderers....why wasnt justice for paul quinn included in programme for government

Because the only people who could realistically deliver on such a program are Sinn Fein

dundalkfc10 · 16-07-2020 12:21PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Only the Sinn Fein /IRA criminalised fanbase would regard calling someone an ex Guard as an insult. Thanks for yet another warning flag for all to see

Maurice McCabe is an ex-guard. Treated very well by the Gardai

FrancieBrady · 16-07-2020 12:22PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Because the only people who could realistically deliver on such a program are Sinn Fein

The Gardai, PSNI and the IMC know who did it.

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 12:30PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Gardai, PSNI and the IMC know who did it.

They also know that the local IRA have made it clear that anyone giving evidence will meet a similar fate. No doubt Sinn Fein wold urge anyone with information to go to the Guards or PSNI. Strangely no-one ever does

Truthvader · 16-07-2020 12:33PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Maurice McCabe is an ex-guard. Treated very well by the Gardai

Nice to see such concern. I suppose at least he was vindicated by the justice system and can now put it behind him and enjoy his family - unlike the other Garda McCabe who only got Sinn Fein/ IRA "justice"

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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