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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • #4862
    leoXX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭leoXX


    TG4 get a lot of praise but their standard has fallen a lot too in recent years. One time they produced a lot of new talent and came up with very innovative programs but nowadays they are very dependent on Reruns of Murder she wrote and the Gilmore Girls


  • #4863
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    BBC4 hasn't been cut
    BBC3 went "online" - was talk of bringing it back

    BBC 4 is axed.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18449216.bbc-four-channel-to-axed-cash-strapped-corporation/#:~:text=BBC%20Four%20is%20facing%20the,the%20end%20of%20the%20year.


  • #4864
    da_miser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Performance related pay is the way forward.
    If you bring in a huge audience , you get paid as such.
    If a Niche market you get paid as such.
    RTE is paying top dollar for presenters in a Niche market, its madness


  • #4865
    Caspian Petite Corner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Caspian Petite Corner


    da_miser wrote: »
    Performance related pay is the way forward.
    If you bring in a huge audience , you get paid as such.
    If a Niche market you get paid as such.
    RTE is paying top dollar for presenters in a Niche market, its madness

    it would be rather better no one gets paid over 100,000 for the job their in....if bbc/itv/virgin/elsewhere wants them....let them...don't fall for them stating they've "opportunities" elsewhere...tell them to jog on if 100grand doesnt appeal to them...im sure they could pull some younger replacements for less money out of media/journalism school or local radio stations...


  • #4866
    Arthur Daley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    BBC4 is quality television. If if is under threat it is because they are eyeing up the budget for more of this race to the bottom pap, to chase viewers with moronic shows like love island, x factor etc.

    People need to be careful what they wish for. Look at the state of channnel 4. Once an innovator.


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  • #4867
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    BBC 4 is axed.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18449216.bbc-four-channel-to-axed-cash-strapped-corporation/#:~:text=BBC%20Four%20is%20facing%20the,the%20end%20of%20the%20year.

    Thanks - hadn't heard about that

    44 million a year seems like nothing
    How much does RTE2 get? Similar viewership. Schedule basically consisting of imported TV shows from years ago
    They have the News now and Oireachtas (seriously whats the point) channels that could be used for the football and special events


  • #4868
    da_miser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    Wesley Teeny Oasis wrote: »
    it would be rather better no one gets paid over 100,000 for the job their in....if bbc/itv/virgin/elsewhere wants them....let them...don't fall for them stating they've "opportunities" elsewhere...tell them to jog on if 100grand doesnt appeal to them...im sure they could pull some younger replacements for less money out of media/journalism school or local radio stations...

    Anyone with a C in the Leaving cert could be a news reader, €40k a year for the job, if you excel you move up in RTE to a better role, its madness paying €100k+ for someone to read a script.
    If they feel undervalued , then best of luck fûck off and test the free market.


  • #4869
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    da_miser wrote: »
    Performance related pay is the way forward.
    If you bring in a huge audience , you get paid as such.
    If a Niche market you get paid as such.
    RTE is paying top dollar for presenters in a Niche market, its madness

    Whatever happens to rte in the longrun I wouldn't like to see it go down this route. This would just result in a race to harvest the common denominater. There are enough channels for this besides a national broadcaster going down that road. The whole pay structure and the ridiculous sums paid out to mediocre at best presenters has to be dealt with sooner or later I agree but rte must maintain its identity as a national broadcaster and sometimes that may involve "niche" programming as you call it otherwise what is the point of its existence at all


  • #4870
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    da_miser wrote: »
    Anyone with a C in the Leaving cert could be a news reader, €40k a year for the job, if you excel you move up in RTE to a better role, its madness paying €100k+ for someone to read a script.
    If they feel undervalued , then best of luck fûck off and test the free market.

    A bit elitist there. Tests are only good at proving folks are good at tests.

    Tommy Tiernan has admitted he was a poor student, but his chat show was one of the best things RTE had produced. And it had little to no expense, compared to the 'posh, highly educated' Tubridy.


  • #4871
    da_miser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    Whatever happens to rte in the longrun I wouldn't like to see it go down this route. This would just result in a race to harvest the common denominater. There are enough channels for this besides a national broadcaster going down that road. The whole pay structure and the ridiculous sums paid out to mediocre at best presenters has to be dealt with sooner or later I agree but rte must maintain its identity as a national broadcaster and sometimes that may involve "niche" programming as you call it otherwise what is the point of its existence at all

    This is a RTE "star" alt account


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  • #4872
    da_miser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    A bit elitist there. Tests are only good at proving folks are good at tests.

    Tommy Tiernan has admitted he was a poor student, but his chat show was one of the best things RTE had produced. And it had little to no expense, compared to the 'posh, highly educated' Tubridy.

    Another RTE alt account.
    Anyone with a leaving cert could be a RTE presenter on 40k a year and still stealing a living


  • #4873
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Thanks - hadn't heard about that

    44 million a year seems like nothing
    How much does RTE2 get? Similar viewership. Schedule basically consisting of imported TV shows from years ago
    They have the News now and Oireachtas (seriously whats the point) channels that could be used for the football and special events

    BBC 3 and BBC 4 were pretty much started to try and capture the younger audience.

    Unfortunately, that didn't work. So instead it often shows repeats of dramas or documentaries, many of which one can find on youtube.

    It's just the way technology/ media goes... a once thriving media (in this case, television, though you can factor in radio too) gets replaced by a new media (the internet, streaming services, spotify, podcasts, etc etc and they'll get replaced in the future too).

    Television almost killed cinemas, and did enormous damage to radio. RTE's operating in a dying medium... they're not adapting, they're devolving.


  • #4874
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    da_miser wrote: »
    Another RTE alt account.
    Anyone with a leaving cert could be a RTE presenter on 40k a year and still stealing a living

    You're paranoid-I've been denouncing RTE for a long while.


  • #4875
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    da_miser wrote: »
    This is a RTE "star" alt account

    Ah for heavens sake I've heard it all now


  • #4876
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    Ah for heavens sake I've heard it all now

    Did ya not hear? The fella who's been signed up since April of this year thinks we work for RTE.

    Couldn't be further from the truth...

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to influence the US election for 2020.... :cool:


  • #4877
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Minister stands by attack on RTE 'cocaine snorters'.
    Well, it would explain a lot of things at RTE.

    For example, it would explain why Dee Forbes wants more money from us; cocaine ain't cheap you know.
    It would explain why the service RTE provides to the public is so poor in quality, and the removal/gutting of TG4 and programs that had value.
    It would explain why their 'stars' and overpaid presenters have this "lofty" air about themselves.
    And it would explain the nonsensical policies that RTE formulate at their meetings and then bombard the public and the gullible Irish politicians incessantly in order to get them enacted in Irish society.

    Wonder can RTE employees add cocaine as an expense when submitting their weekly expenses?


  • #4878
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Minister stands by attack on RTE 'cocaine snorters'.
    Well, it would explain a lot of things at RTE.

    For example, it would explain why Dee Forbes wants more money from us; cocaine ain't cheap you know.
    It would explain why the service RTE provides to the public is so poor in quality, and the removal/gutting of TG4 and programs that had value.
    It would explain why their 'stars' and overpaid presenters have this "lofty" air about themselves.
    And it would explain the nonsensical policies that RTE formulate at their meetings and then bombard the public and the gullible Irish politicians incessantly in order to get them enacted in Irish society.

    Wonder can RTE employees add cocaine as an expense when submitting their weekly expenses?

    Funny how RTE always have something to say, but when contacted about the article their response was 'No comment'.


  • #4879
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Minister stands by attack on RTE 'cocaine snorters'.
    Well, it would explain a lot of things at RTE.

    For example, it would explain why Dee Forbes wants more money from us; cocaine ain't cheap you know.
    It would explain why the service RTE provides to the public is so poor in quality, and the removal/gutting of TG4 and programs that had value.
    It would explain why their 'stars' and overpaid presenters have this "lofty" air about themselves.
    And it would explain the nonsensical policies that RTE formulate at their meetings and then bombard the public and the gullible Irish politicians incessantly in order to get them enacted in Irish society.

    Wonder can RTE employees add cocaine as an expense when submitting their weekly expenses?
    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Funny how RTE always have something to say, but when contacted about the article their response was 'No comment'.

    Just to clarify that you are quoting a piece of unsubstantiated nonsense from Frankie Feighan.

    https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/39772-minister-of-state-for-drugs-policy-stands-by-attack-on-rte-cocaine-snorter


  • #4880
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    elperello wrote: »
    Just to clarify that you are quoting a piece of unsubstantiated nonsense from Frankie Feighan.

    https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/news/39772-minister-of-state-for-drugs-policy-stands-by-attack-on-rte-cocaine-snorter

    Ah you're gas, as usual. Yep, there's no way an organisation in D.4 with a high proportion of very well paid middle class employees/contractors, would have any problem with a class A drug generally considered to be the drug of choice of the rich, cool and trendy. Absolutely no way. It's a total non story...right?

    Maybe that's the problem. Perhaps management are so out of their faces that they are incapable of doing their jobs. Hence the basket-case that RTE have become. And make no mistake, it is a basket-case.


  • #4881
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,668 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    We all remember this clip of Dunphy on the LLS dropping more than mischievous hint.

    Listen from 4:15 or so

    https://youtu.be/OWrQ-oWJpR0


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  • #4882
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    When you see it in regular use in the average bar its not a far stretch to believe its well used in RTE
    He's not the first person to bring it up about RTE and it's not like RTE don't have form in this area...


  • #4883
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    It’s boards so you cannot confirm or deny these rumours about drug taking

    All I can say is I do know Conor and Ryan have been known to be drinking buddies.....


  • #4884
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    NIMAN wrote: »
    We all remember this clip of Dunphy on the LLS dropping more than mischievous hint.

    Listen from 4:15 or so

    Yep, Eamonn has admitted to doing drugs, his famous 'you can't get good coke in Dublin' quote is probably his best known phrase.

    He claims he quit shortly after the death of Gerry Ryan. Eamonn I mean.

    And Lillie's Bordello... God, was there ever a dive bar that catered for a hive of scumbags and villains than that place?
    Nobody ever gave it a decent review, it just became known for coke heads so out of it they couldn't' tell it was a s**t house.

    Overcharged for drinks, crap servers, hassled by bouncers... a dive.

    I know there are some places around Ireland where they've started putting vaseline on the toilets so folks can't snort off of them. The 'powder' sticks there.

    Other places, especially ladies toilets (friends have told me, I don't hang around in ladies restrooms-I'm not a creep) are notorious for coke residue being pretty much all over the facilities.
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It’s boards so you cannot confirm or deny these rumours about drug taking

    All I can say is I do know Conor and Ryan have been known to be drinking buddies.....

    Conor who?


  • #4885
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    Ah you're gas, as usual. Yep, there's no way an organisation in D.4 with a high proportion of very well paid middle class employees/contractors, would have any problem with a class A drug generally considered to be the drug of choice of the rich, cool and trendy. Absolutely no way. It's a total non story...right?

    Maybe that's the problem. Perhaps management are so out of their faces that they are incapable of doing their jobs. Hence the basket-case that RTE have become. And make no mistake, it is a basket-case.

    Gas is right, you'd need a sense of humour around here.

    I just put up a proper link to show the source.

    If you think Frankie is "the man" go ahead.


  • #4886
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    For me, this boils down to two simple facts

    1. A number of people in RTE are paid ridiculous sums of money compared to what they are worth
    2. RTE has made no effort to reduce its cost base, even during a time of massive COVID-19 induced pressure

    I count myself as lucky - I still have a job, albeit with a pay cut, and am ostensibly on reduced hours. There’s still the same amount of work to get through. Many people are far less fortunate, having lost their job. It seems to me that RTE is insulated from the real world. I don’t wish anyone to be unfairly treated in these sort of circumstances, but I do expect a “share the pain” approach.

    It’s not possible for me to apply for a job in RTE. I’ve no relatives working there


  • #4887
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Deleted User wrote: »
    For me, this boils down to two simple facts

    I count myself as lucky - I still have a job, albeit with a pay cut, and am ostensibly on reduced hours. There’s still the same amount of work to get through. Many people are far less fortunate, having lost their job. It seems to me that RTE is insulated from the real world. I don’t wish anyone to be unfairly treated in these sort of circumstances, but I do expect a “share the pain” approach.

    It’s not possible for me to apply for a job in RTE. I’ve no relatives working there

    I know a few people who work with TG4 and Virgin Media 1. Managed to get jobs behind the scenes, not 'in front of the camera' talent, but behind the scenes stuff like boom mike operators, production assistants on the floor, etc etc.

    Despite it's complete disconnect with the audience, UTV Ireland allowed a few people I know to get their foot in the door of television production. Sadly, when the company died a death, so did their media careers.
    (Some got receptionist jobs, but I'd say their blacklisted by folks like RTE).


  • #4888
    PieOhMy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    https://extra.ie/2020/07/08/news/irish-news/newstalk-rte-pat-kenny-advertisement/amp

    Turning away advertising they are!


  • #4889
    bigroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Sure what do they need advertising for as Dee will go crying to the government cap in hand for another bailout.
    If they were to hire a few kids studying accounts in secondary school ,Rte would have no financial problems.
    Its quiet obvious senior management are not fit for purpose and should be let go if they cannot meet their targets.


  • #4890
    GMSA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭GMSA


    More money being spent.
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-reveals-18m-cost-of-car-fleet-months-after-200-jobs-axed-39362213.html


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  • #4891
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Why the hell do they need that many cars???


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