Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

We have a 15% non compliance with the license fee ...waaay too much ....who is addressing that in a meaningful way and avoiding the soft option of increasing the license fee for compliant subscribers .

That number is only going to increase. Are they going to prosecute everyone? People in Ireland and the UK have woke up to this ridiculous tax.

If neither organisation can find a way to reinvent themselves through a subscription model then they are both doomed.

One answer to all this no more DeeForb rte it should be

Deefund RTE

To be honest there is no system as such anymore.
Internet is the way and this old system of TV licence gangsterism is on the way out and so is the Rte model as we know it.
Pay per view or good night.
The people will not accept this sham anymore.

BloodBath wrote: »

That number is only going to increase. Are they going to prosecute everyone? People in Ireland and the UK have woke up to this ridiculous tax.

If neither organisation can find a way to reinvent themselves through a subscription model then they are both doomed.

rightmove wrote: »

One answer to all this no more DeeForb rte it should be

Deefund RTE

Elmo wrote: »

So replace a outdated bureaucratic system with one that will just make everyone give into the red tape! Let’s reform RTÉ first.

bigroad wrote: »

To be honest there is no system as such anymore.
Internet is the way and this old system of TV licence gangsterism is on the way out and so is the Rte model as we know it.
Pay per view or good night.
The people will not accept this sham anymore.

I've said before on this thread that what we need to do is decide what we want in a TV service and how to fund it.

My preference is for a Public Broadcasting Service that is free at the point of use. A PBS that covers all aspects of our culture and sport, that produces news, current affairs programming and documentaries relevant to Ireland today. An element of light entertainment if it can be sustained.

And to pay for it, I prefer the general taxation model, ie. replace the licence with funding from the public purse. No more evasion or collection costs, everyone makes a contribution. No Government interference with index linked funding channeled through an independent body subject to set deliverables.

Now all we need to do is set up the Broadcasting Commission get a handle on what people really want and do it.

Half of RTE's programs are repeats of old BBC stuff anyway. A great use of the TV license fee.

elperello wrote: »

I expect that everything would be up for discussion.

Having said that I don't believe the issue of presenters remuneration is as big a pot of gold as some think.

Once we have decided what form our PBS should take the rest should follow.

Optics - and not one of them deserve the money they are on
Have you listened to D'arcy or Duffy recently?

fritzelly wrote: »

Optics - and not one of them deserve the money they are on
Have you listened to D'arcy or Duffy recently?

I'm not really interested in optics.

I'm more interested in a sustainable future Public Broadcasting Service than trying to micro manage RTE.

At the end of the day I just want to listen to the radio and watch the TV without worrying about who is worth what.

I listen to Joe Duffy a lot but not that often to Ray D'Arcy.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So what, you want RTE just to be specific to your exact tastes?


I would expect those two shows are probably amoung the higher rating shows. They are also using Irish "stars" and Irish people.



It is not this type of show that I have an issue with, people seem to like it and it serves a purposes. THe farming shows, the building etc are all watched by people. Plus I doubt they cost massive money.



What prupose does 2FM serve? its just a sh*t version of every pop station in Ireland. Based on recent surveys the age profile they are after listen to more local than national radio. Its listeners are in decline for years and they are no longer self funded. That is what I call a waste of money.

Plus the thing about Operation Transformation is that the whole ethos of the show ie 'change bad habits, change lifestyles, lose weight' has had questionable results.

I mean, we saw how Biggest Loser was kind of a mess, tbh. Folks relapsed not long after.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Why is state funding being used to fund commercial activities?

RTÉ use public money to outbid other private broadcasters for programming.

RTÉ should be slashed down to one single channel and used solely for news bulletins, weather, crimecall and ministerial speeches and debates and presidential campaigns etc.

this...they should cut rte 2 and only have 1 tv and 1 radio station, improve/fix the player and stick the stuff on rte 2 on there and charge say a tenner a month ala netflix

Rte1 should be news/crimecall/irish documentaries/movies/shows/irish sport, and not imports from UK/USA which are on about 5 different stations already...slot them on to the player

Amy Huberman/Bernard O'Shea/anna Geary/social media influencers etc are not culturally relevant

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Just on the farming programme there, imv it doesn't serve the majority of farmers in this country. Its all about the big operators the guys farming 5/600 acres and more, the huge operations+its increasingly dealing with subjects on the periphery of farming also why do they need 3 presenters when 1 or 2 could do the job adequately and from what I can see they take every opertunity to send these presenters abroad for programmes, France, Russia, Australia off the top of my head iv seen them recently. I may be wrong I doubt they're cheap to make

Those are the lads wearing the Dairymaster jacket and rubbing shoulders with Phil Hogan I suppose. It's all about putting tons of cheap food on the table for the EU and keeping the money spinner going

retalivity wrote: »

And those should be TG4 & RnaG.

Or keep 2 of each, in English and Irsh.
An RTE1 focused on producing content that promotes Irish content, news & current affairs, & public service broadcasting, along with TG4 doing similar as gaeilge.
RTE radio 1 I think is in a lot better shape than its television counterparts, with the exception of the wages that some are trousering. RnaG as well, which can also be quite eclectic at certain times.

BBC have cut 2 channels in the past decade-BBC3 and BBC 4. Both were loss makers, failing to appeal to the targeted audience.

On the other hand, RTE haven't cut a single one, despite RTE 2 being a dumping ground for stuff that's already been shown on the RTE player. (IF you can get it to work, the player that is).

TG4...same story. Repeats, after repeats... some programs 50 plus years old.
A waste of money, and a continual loss maker.