Disrespect by children in film

mr_fegelien · 04-07-2020 6:08pm #1

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

dinorebel · 04-07-2020 6:10pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

What the f*ck is Zionist about kids being brats?

Potential-Monke · 04-07-2020 6:10pm

They're not normalising it. It's based on reality. People can't control their kids. Not all, but enough.

I Am Nobody · 04-07-2020 6:10pm

IMO your posts should fall under crimes against humanity.

One eyed Jack · 04-07-2020 6:11pm

I can’t say I’ve noticed it, but it’s definitely the Hollywood Zionist agenda!

FunLover18 · 04-07-2020 6:12pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

Wow, you really buried the lede on that one, didn't you?

Treppen · 04-07-2020 6:39pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

You ever seen the little rascals? The original version?

Rodney Bathgate · 04-07-2020 6:42pm

Children should be seen and not heard. Right, Mr. F?

04-07-2020 8:24pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

How do you confuse the very "Woke" Hollywood with a Zionist conspiracy?

I'm genuinely curious.

B.A._Baracus · 04-07-2020 8:52pm

It's just a trope when writing movies and TV shows.
Sure how many times have you seen the following: unruly teenager hates their new step parent / guardian but by the end they think they alright and everything is happy go lucky.

04-07-2020 9:06pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

This is like one of those recipes that starts talking about their whole life story and random stuff first

McGinniesta · 04-07-2020 9:14pm

Little Johnny actor needs a good crack on the arse

TheValeyard · 04-07-2020 9:17pm

Hollywood is just pointing out what any parent or teacher will tell you. Kids can be as$holes.

Ultima Thule · 04-07-2020 9:17pm

Yes, and in adverts too. It's to influence the young people that they can do what they want. They will grow up and spend more money, as they think they deserve it.

There will be more money in the economy from this generation than in the generation from a controlled religious/strict environment.

Montage of Feck · 04-07-2020 9:19pm

How does kids being brats fit in with Zionism OP?

4068ac1elhodqr · 04-07-2020 9:30pm

At least there is one less 'Stein' after Holywood Harvey got caught out last year.

Collie D · 04-07-2020 9:35pm

I’ve seen some mad stuff online blamed on “the Jews” but this one is definitely up there.

Kylta · 04-07-2020 9:37pm

It amazes me that this poster comes up with some sh!te. Seriously when I got stoned back in the day even I couldn't come up with some of the stuff that this person or computer generate program comes up with.
My personal opinion is the program has a virus called mr feg. I see you came back to AH after not getting any hits in some of the other forums. Did you miss us or maybe you have some posters here that are convinced your real. Zionist and kids now what will it be next week. Martian and how they used weed to get male models into bed with aliens from jupiter

Quantum Erasure · 04-07-2020 9:46pm

Collie D wrote: »

I’ve seen some mad stuff online blamed on “the Jews” but this one is definitely up there.

it's antisemitic to equate Zionism with "the Jews", as you put it....

Deer · 04-07-2020 9:48pm

It starts with Peppa Pig. Ugh.

Rodney Bathgate · 04-07-2020 9:54pm

Deer wrote: »

It starts with Peppa Pig. Ugh.

Don’t get me started on the misandristic Peppa Pig.

saabsaab · 04-07-2020 10:03pm

I guess they are showng the reality for many families these days. You see it often parents who won't control their children when they are well out of order and react badly to anyone who stops them acting up. Public buildings restaurants etc. etc.

andekwarhola · 04-07-2020 10:31pm

This kids back chatting to parents thing is a worrying new development. I suspect it's down to PC Gone Mad.

Your Face · 04-07-2020 10:33pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

Thats great stuff.

gogo · 05-07-2020 1:31am

I think there is a huge element of American influence and the fact that they seem to find precocious kids hilarious. Watching a clip the other day of the Ellen show of a three year old, saying she was ‘fierce, fab and just a bit little bit bougie‘... the crowd were lapping it up. This is a real common element of American tv. There was also those other you tube videos of the 2/3 years old that did sketches about wanted her morning coffee.. millions of views, she was practically still a baby, primed to basically act like a grown woman.. utter nonsense, every word was fed into her mouth by some adult. Videos hit European audience and cue a lot of ****ty feedback about exploiting your kids and videos eventually stopped.

Kids talk back, they always have done but for some reason the line between raising a smirk for being cheeky and being an asshole got blurred somewhere over the last few years.

Just my two cent on it, my kids watch some amount of American drivel, it drives me up the wall, I can always spot that theme though, young child gives attitude, cue canned laughter..

Simi · 05-07-2020 2:02am

Kylta wrote: »

It amazes me that this poster comes up with some sh!te. Seriously when I got stoned back in the day even I couldn't come up with some of the stuff that this person or computer generate program comes up with.
My personal opinion is the program has a virus called mr feg. I see you came back to AH after not getting any hits in some of the other forums. Did you miss us or maybe you have some posters here that are convinced your real. Zionist and kids now what will it be next week. Martian and how they used weed to get male models into bed with aliens from jupiter

I'm starting to believe it's actually an advanced AI in training. If you look back over its posts over the last few days its touched on the zionist theme a few times. Seems like it's constantly picking up stuff and working it into it's thread topics.

It's either the dullest ****poster in the history of mankind or an AI meandering its way towards skynet

Chris_Heilong · 05-07-2020 2:03am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

I really wish you did not say that as I was with you up to that point, yes there is a few things which Hollywood has been pushing for years, broken families, abusive parents, abusive kids which might simply come down to giving the characters an interesting background, I remember some one saying who wants to see a perfect happy family? and in some ways I see their point if you want drama it is hard to do showing everyone as happy.

In real life I would prefer to see more focus and promotion on the nuclear family as that is what a stable happy society is made of and having the influence of both parents helps children grow into decent adults.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-07-2020 5:19am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

It's called "conflict" and writers use it to create tension and engage the audience. It's not designed to be realistic.

Nor is the idea that kids get black eyes or kicked out of wherever for acting up. That's your agenda.

ILoveYourVibes · 05-07-2020 5:26am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Yes. I have noticed. Hollywood rarely reflects reality.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

lol A lot of people won't see the joke in this.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-07-2020 5:27am

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

In real life I would prefer to see more focus and promotion on the nuclear family as that is what a stable happy society is made of and having the influence of both parents helps children grow into decent adults.

You mean you the Cleavers/Bradys/Waltons/Huxtables and so on?

There's a reason they died out. Nuclear families aren't the norm any more and pushing them as such promotes a happy society idea that is so utopian it alienates audiences; and angers non-nuclear families who feel stigmatised.

(Of course, it doesn't help when the actor portraying head of said family and chief idealist turns out to be a rapist...)

Potential-Monke · 05-07-2020 7:48am

People won't agree with me, but kids started being cnuts when you could no longer give them a smack. It's also one of the reasons why I won't have kids, because I was raised by a father who ensured you knew who was boss, and it did me no harm, kept me out of trouble and made sure I didn't turn out to be a criminal, which I very easily could have been. And I would mirror that approach.

This talking approach doesn't seem to be working as well.

Signore Fancy Pants · 05-07-2020 9:17am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

lol A lot of people won't see the joke in this.

The trope or the fact that a user with a chosen handle of a Nazi SS Commander is having a go at the "zionists"?

LOL indeed.

L.O.L.

LOL

L

Sigh

The One Doctor · 05-07-2020 9:23am

I Am Nobody wrote: »

IMO your posts should fall under crimes against humanity.

It's common knowledge that Mr F is actually Kevin Myers.

Kylta · 05-07-2020 9:27am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

People won't agree with me, but kids started being cnuts when you could no longer give them a smack. It's also one of the reasons why I won't have kids, because I was raised by a father who ensured you knew who was boss, and it did me no harm, kept me out of trouble and made sure I didn't turn out to be a criminal, which I very easily could have been. And I would mirror that approach.

This talking approach doesn't seem to be working as well.

To be honest I've seen some kids get battered by there parents and it was to no avail the kid would still go out and the same thing again. It didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't any sense now. In regards to having kids you're kids might end up being successful with no flaws. But anybody lashing out at children is just frustrated at not getting the child to understand them.

McGinniesta · 05-07-2020 10:15am

Deer wrote: »

It starts with Peppa Pig. Ugh.

Peppa Zionist pig.

Kylta · 05-07-2020 12:27pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Peppa Zionist pig.

Can you eat Zionist pig? Is it a form of halal pork?

Chris_Heilong · 05-07-2020 3:39pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You mean you the Cleavers/Bradys/Waltons/Huxtables and so on?

There's a reason they died out. Nuclear families aren't the norm any more and pushing them as such promotes a happy society idea that is so utopian it alienates audiences; and angers non-nuclear families who feel stigmatised.

(Of course, it doesn't help when the actor portraying head of said family and chief idealist turns out to be a rapist...)

The nuclear family just means 2 parents, a man and a woman with children, people who have not divorced and remarried, I think it is the norm, not in film/TV but in real life as I already said why it is not used in film. Also based on what you said "alienates audiences; and angers non-nuclear families who feel stigmatised.
" why would the present portrayal of a broken family not make normal stable families feel "stigmatised"?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-07-2020 4:23pm

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

The nuclear family just means 2 parents, a man and a woman with children, people who have not divorced and remarried, I think it is the norm, not in film/TV but in real life as I already said why it is not used in film. Also based on what you said "alienates audiences; and angers non-nuclear families who feel stigmatised.
" why would the present portrayal of a broken family not make normal stable families feel "stigmatised"?

Are you saying non-nuclear families are automatically "broken"...? I'd aruge that that is most certainly stigmatising.

Neucelar families are not normal - they are traditional, and there's a difference. And traditions are not always positive.

Getting back to the point of entertainment, though: there are plenty of dysfunctional neuclear famliies in entertainment, e.g - Simpsons, Addams, Family Guy, Malcolm in the Middle, Married with Children...

Chris_Heilong · 05-07-2020 7:25pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Are you saying non-nuclear families are automatically "broken"...? I'd aruge that that is most certainly stigmatising.

Neucelar families are not normal - they are traditional, and there's a difference. And traditions are not always positive.

Getting back to the point of entertainment, though: there are plenty of dysfunctional neuclear famliies in entertainment, e.g - Simpsons, Addams, Family Guy, Malcolm in the Middle, Married with Children...

You are focusing too much on the small details, My point being stable family leads to stable society and that is something that should be seen as the gold standard, we are going off topic because I think we both agree that having such in film and TV would lead to boring story telling.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-07-2020 7:34pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Neucelar families are not normal - they are traditional, and there's a difference. And traditions are not always positive.

The traditional (hundreds of thousands of years, or longer) nuclear family, is not only most positive in the vast majority of cases, but also the best environment, as proven by nature and evolution to raise a family in.

Sure other methods can produce positive results (or not), but the defacto normal standard model is (on average) the best, and will likely continue to be.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-07-2020 10:38pm

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

You are focusing too much on the small details, My point being stable family leads to stable society and that is something that should be seen as the gold standard, we are going off topic because I think we both agree that having such in film and TV would lead to boring story telling.

Yeah, I see your point - but you did throw me off with the "two parents - one male, one female bit"!

I agree with you though - it would certainly lead to more boring entertainment.

Abdiel Ashy Keynote wrote: »

The traditional (hundreds of thousands of years, or longer) nuclear family, is not only most positive in the vast majority of cases, but also the best environment, as proven by nature and evolution to raise a family in.

Sure other methods can produce positive results (or not), but the defacto normal standard model is (on average) the best, and will likely continue to be.

Not sure you can claim nature and evolution prove anything there - we've evolvied into a more diverse non-tradional society - and for the most part survived pretty well. And thee are plenty of disfunctional traditional families out there too, and there's no denying that; but back on topic.

Kids in film. Needs the conflict to be watchable. We don't live in a utopia, no point in pretending we do or looking down on people for creating perfectly adequate suitable alternatives either by choice or chance.

Plus there's enough boring preachy **** on the telly on any given night as it is.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun · 05-07-2020 10:41pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

Wow.

So, are you suggesting there's a zionist conspiracy to greenlight films where the children are more bratty than say, your limited circle of what you think the average child was like growing up?

And if there is some conspiracy, can you tell me what the selection process is like. Are you saying it's Jew producers that influence the writers to write the characters more abusive? And when they take the risk of giving budgets for these films, who's responsible for taking the hit of losses? And how do they measure a films success? If the film bombs in the box office but has lots of bratty, abusive kids, is that still a win for the zionist agenda you speak of?

Do think films are dramatised? Do think if you showed aliens Hollywood films that they represent reality or cinematic vision of reality?

Do you think films would be as dramatic if the children were just complacent? Could be in the realm of possibility that films rely on drama, action, death, suspense and these things are written because it's interesting? There for it increases the probability that you are seeing children take up more dramatic characters on screen?

Annasopra · 06-07-2020 7:24am

The One Doctor wrote: »

It's common knowledge that Mr F is actually Kevin Myers.

Kevin Myers is a Tanzanian bisexual?

Kylta · 06-07-2020 7:30am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Kevin Myers is a Tanzanian bisexual?

So I'm wrong again, I though Myers was a **** stain. Feg stood for fu¢king engineered game(gimp).

circadian · 06-07-2020 7:32am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in many many TV shows and films, children talk to their parents in an abusive manner frequently.

As someone I heard say, if they even said a fraction of the things, they'd have a black eye or get kicked out.

Why is Hollywood normalising this? Zionist agenda?

Yes, George Soros is mind controlling them and using it to hypnotise the viewers.

Feisar · 06-07-2020 7:40am

Kylta wrote: »

To be honest I've seen some kids get battered by there parents and it was to no avail the kid would still go out and the same thing again. It didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't any sense now. In regards to having kids you're kids might end up being successful with no flaws. But anybody lashing out at children is just frustrated at not getting the child to understand them.

Being battered by a parent who isn't in control themselves isn't going to instill discipline. As the poster said and same as myself he knew who the boss was. It didn't do me any harm plus it toughened me up for life's knocks.

Kylta · 06-07-2020 7:58am

Feisar wrote: »

Being battered by a parent who isn't in control themselves isn't going to instill discipline. As the poster said and same as myself he knew who the boss was. It didn't do me any harm plus it toughened me up for life's knocks.

I have recieved my father and mothers( she always hit harder it seems) had on many occasions and probably rightly so. But a box or a clatter is one thing and at times can be impulsive from a parent. But a parent giving a child a hiding with feet and fists I don't think it works, and if it has no effect on the child well it definitively doesn't work. Just about toughening you up for lifes hard knock. Did you not get thoughen up by fighting other kids in your area? Or outside your area for that matter?

Feisar · 06-07-2020 8:30am

Kylta wrote: »

I have recieved my father and mothers( she always hit harder it seems) had on many occasions and probably rightly so. But a box or a clatter is one thing and at times can be impulsive from a parent. But a parent giving a child a hiding with feet and fists I don't think it works, and if it has no effect on the child well it definitively doesn't work. Just about toughening you up for lifes hard knock. Did you not get thoughen up by fighting other kids in your area? Or outside your area for that matter?

A garden cane was the tool of choice!

Kylta · 06-07-2020 8:33am

Feisar wrote: »

A garden cane was the tool of choice!

Alas how fondly we dwell on our childhood and youth.

topper75 · 06-07-2020 10:57am

Some of those kids though are tough cookies. Iron like lions.

06-07-2020 2:00pm

There seems to be a common belief that it's a case of physical punishment OR disrespectful, cheeky children.
There IS an in-between where children can be disciplined by explaining consequences of actions, ie. playstation/phone/activities being taken away or whatever - with a follow through if misbehavior continues. Clear guidelines on acceptable behavior and reasonable boundaries can be achieved without the belt.

There are some bratty TV children that stress me out and I end up having to switch off - especially the ones where it's supposed to be cute or funny when they are cheeky. Grrrrr

Disrespect by children in film

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