FF/FG/Green Next Government

FrancieBrady · 28-06-2020 02:42PM

Hey LADS why is the Taoiseach facilitating this? Some social distancing going on here among the public and photographers.
Could he not just have gone home quietly?

https://twitter.com/fiona96fmnews/status/1277242580028329986

James Brown · 28-06-2020 02:51PM

So even after FF getting FG in on the guest list and the Greens doing what they Greens do...its still all about SF.
We've seen Dooley who doesn't like to get up early of a morning get rewarded.
It'll be fun to watch the FG mob defend FF actions

The election is over lads, you'll need justify FF/FG/Green actions at some point. Slagging off the electorate or other parties won't cut it.

MrMusician18 · 28-06-2020 02:53PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Hey LADS why is the Taoiseach facilitating this? Some social distancing going on here among the public and photographers.
Could he not just have gone home quietly?

https://twitter.com/fiona96fmnews/status/1277242580028329986

Nice bit of whataboutery there.

Truthvader · 28-06-2020 02:54PM

Bowie wrote: »

So even after FF getting FG in on the guest list and the Greens doing what they Greens do...its still all about SF.
We've seen Dooley who doesn't like to get up early of a morning get rewarded.
It'll be fun to watch the FG mob defend FF actions
The election is over lads, you'll need justify FF/FG/Green actions at some point. Slagging off the electorate or other parties won't cut it.

This is a good point to be fair. The nonsense about Michelle is hopeless

FrancieBrady · 28-06-2020 02:55PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Nice bit of whataboutery there.

Absolutely! Anything to point out the pettiness of the selectively outraged.

James Brown · 28-06-2020 02:57PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Nice bit of whataboutery there.

Pssst it's a thread about a government MM is leading not if MO'N broke covid restrictions. That's the whataboutery.

smelly sock · 28-06-2020 03:08PM

Lads I thought Martin said he wouldn't go into Govt with FG?

It's tragic.

A man who was part of the cabinet when FF drove us off a cliff is now T-shock.

Lying wasters the lot of them.

Podge_irl · 28-06-2020 03:12PM

flutered wrote: »

but if you were a 60 year old with arthritis and six more years of cycling ahead of you?

I am completely open to allowing all 60 years olds with arthritis to continuing driving into the city. It should even be easier for them when all the people who don't need to drive are not driving.

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 03:15PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Lads I thought Martin said he wouldn't go into Govt with FG?

It's tragic.

A man who was part of the cabinet when FF drove us off a cliff is now T-shock.

Lying wasters the lot of them.

Events Dear boy, as McMillan said, change things utterly. It's what "de peepel" voted for or not.

Edgware · 28-06-2020 03:50PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I could see soc dems treble in numbers going forward

Can only speak locally and say labour is dispised,despite waterford being strong trade union city

Id wouldnt be suprised if shinners got over 44 to 50 seats.....they could potentially recruit high profile quality canditadtes like lisa chambers and saoirse mchugh as they turn eyes towards dismantling FF/genepool FFG on local issues....

they seem to have stablised mid 20s% for now,so mathetically possible they could 2 to 3 seats in each 5 seater......if they find enough canditdates

Triple loser and ignored for the Senate McHugh is welcome to SF now that her resignation letter is on the way to Green H.Q.

As for Lisa Chambers she is a Senator. She knows how the system works and will be back in Dail Eireann and a Minister in a future F.F. government.

blanch152 · 28-06-2020 04:09PM

McMurphy wrote: »

The "rules" didn't apply/weren't enforceable to anyone not resident in the state, be that Michelle O'Neill, or Sammy Wilson, a German tourist, or drew Drew Harris children.

It was a loophole overlooked by...... Come on Edg, you can do it ............

Hmmm, so politicians can be excused any behaviour if it isn't illegal. This is a new one.

We have had constant complaints about non-illegal cronyism on here, I think you were big on a driver for some Minister not so long ago.

How do you reconcile those contradictory hypocritical positions, other than one was FG and the other was SF?

blanch152 · 28-06-2020 04:14PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How do you know that? Was Martin's niece's trip 'essential'?

SF are an all island party, HOW do you know what had to be discussed or signed off yesterday?

Of all the mealy mouthed stuff to be getting the undergarments in a twist about.

Why does Sinn Fein being an all island party make it ok for Michelle O'Neill to break travel restrictions?

FrancieBrady · 28-06-2020 04:15PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Hmmm, so politicians can be excused any behaviour if it isn't illegal. This is a new one.

We have had constant complaints about non-illegal cronyism on here, I think you were big on a driver for some Minister not so long ago.

How do you reconcile those contradictory hypocritical positions, other than one was FG and the other was SF?

Amazing how this thread has managed to deflect itself away from discussing the FF/FG/Green government and the historic election of FF's Michael Martin by among others, Fine Gael TD's to the office of Taoiseach.

James Brown · 28-06-2020 04:15PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Hmmm, so politicians can be excused any behaviour if it isn't illegal. This is a new one.

We have had constant complaints about non-illegal cronyism on here, I think you were big on a driver for some Minister not so long ago.

How do you reconcile those contradictory hypocritical positions, other than one was FG and the other was SF?

It's obvious you didn't understand his post and repeated clarification.
How is her traveling cronyism? You don't believe in cronyism anyway.
This is pretty poor Blanch. How does Dooley getting a senate seat sit with you?

Be more interesting if you lads could defend your party on its actions instead of pointing and saying 'look over there'.
SF aren't in government, get over it.

James Brown · 28-06-2020 04:29PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Amazing how this thread has managed to deflect itself away from discussing the FF/FG/Green government and the historic election of FF's Michael Martin by among others, Fine Gael TD's to the office of Taoiseach.

They still can't get over the great unwashed moving their vote and are in denial about where they are now. Attacking and diverting because they can't discuss what they are signed up to.

StackSteevens · 28-06-2020 04:34PM

flutered wrote: »

but doherty was smart enough to fillet two senior goverment ministers live on national tv

And he can spend the next five years doing it all over again if he likes and it won't make a blind bit of difference!

gormdubhgorm · 28-06-2020 04:43PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Lads I thought Martin said he wouldn't go into Govt with FG?

It's tragic.

A man who was part of the cabinet when FF drove us off a cliff is now T-shock.

Lying wasters the lot of them.

I assume minds were changed for the good of the country since there was no viable alternative. Fair play to them. Lots of Cork in government now I just hope they don't make Cork the capital.

gormdubhgorm · 28-06-2020 04:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Hey LADS why is the Taoiseach facilitating this? Some social distancing going on here among the public and photographers.
Could he not just have gone home quietly?

https://twitter.com/fiona96fmnews/status/1277242580028329986

Why? Was is it in Béal na Bláth he was in, or what?

28-06-2020 05:08PM

flutered wrote: »

but if you were a 60 year old with arthritis and six more years of cycling ahead of you?

Lots of older people and people with disabilities are finding that eBikes are giving them the kind of extra power they need to allow them to start cycling or continue to cycle.

But even if not, so what? The fact that cycling doesn't work for everyone isn't a reason not to invest in cycling infrastructure. No single mode of transport works for everyone. Cars don't work for everyone, particularly those who can't afford them, but that hasn't stopped us from investing in roads for decades.

BluePlanet · 28-06-2020 05:08PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Why does Sinn Fein being an all island party make it ok for Michelle O'Neill to break travel restrictions?

Ah FFS blanch, do you not know the rules that your party set?

Exceptions
The only people who do not need to self-isolate are people who are:

arriving in the State from Northern Ireland
aircraft crew, including pilots, in Ireland as part of their work duties
holders of a Certificate for International Transport Workers, or drivers of a heavy goods vehicle, who are in Ireland for this work
ship crew, including the maritime master, in the course of performing their duties.

source: https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/travel.html

RandomViewer · 28-06-2020 05:14PM

StackSteevens wrote: »

And he can spend the next five years doing it all over again if he likes and it won't make a blind bit of difference!

They are pretty good at doing their homework, expect Meholes banking irregularities to become centre stage,

RandomViewer · 28-06-2020 05:19PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

MM's family are not deputy leaders of a party that is in the Dáil.

Why not complain that the loophole exists by the way? Surely a party that could leave such a loophole in legislation and then be unable to close it isn't fit to govern?

Keeping the wife out of the way in case some journalist asks an awkward question about her bank accounts?

RandomViewer · 28-06-2020 05:20PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

MM's family are not deputy leaders of a party that is in the Dáil.

Why not complain that the loophole exists by the way? Surely a party that could leave such a loophole in legislation and then be unable to close it isn't fit to govern?

Keeping the wife out of the way in case some journalist asks an awkward question about her bank accounts? Skeletons rattling

KyussB · 28-06-2020 05:47PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I didn't say anything at all about what Keynes advocated. You are putting words in my mouth. You do realise that we have gone from having an expected surplus of 2 billion to a deficit of 25 billion in 2020? We need to plug that gap before we do anything else. Maybe you you can't understand what this means. Think existing costs - unemployment benefit, teachers, nurses.

Jesus you sound like a People Before Puberty hipster studying first year economics in Trinners whose only contact with reality was when dentist dad cut his pocket money for week when he found weed in your bedroom.

You do realize that deficits are a good thing in an economic downturn - and the surpluses are a bad thing, even when the economy has recovered, unless there are sectors in the economy that are overheating? (that this is what Keyne's is all about?)

If you're familiar with Keyne's, and if I took your previous post wrong as trying to represent Keyne's - then I take it you simply don't agree with Keyne's economics?

Keynesian's don't bring the deficit down until the economy is back at Full Employment and Full Output.

I've been discussing this stuff on the site for almost a decade now - and nearly all of what I read each day during that time (my version of a 'newspaper') is economics/politics related - with an emphasis on the economics/macroconomics - and I put research into my arguments when there's something new I've come across that is worth learning...I know this stuff inside out.

You're acting like a style of economic views that was dominant worldwide between the 40's-70's, is People Before Profit material...do your bloody research (e.g. on Keyne's who you claim to be familiar with), and stop regurgitating budget-balancing shite that harms the country, and is pure bad economics that is at the core of NeoLiberalism...

NovemberWren · 28-06-2020 05:49PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Events Dear boy, as McMillan said, change things utterly. It's what "de peepel" voted for or not.

yeah, that events thing can obliterate well-intentioned projects, and never return. anyhow, his wife is really pleasant; so, good to see that he is well-minded, personally. that woman might have bank accounts, but most likely thankfully may be someone to whom that is not the most crucial aspect of life. [his son looks great! - who knew!].
Too many of these politicians can be in bad health, too much criticism; and no media seems to pick up on that 'til it's too late.
(fairly sure Eamon Ryan is not well?).

i'm still not in favour of f.f. though.

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 05:55PM

Fairplay to Michaél Martin on the 1730 news there officially telling us that the civil war politics of the last century has ended.

Beaming for the camera's, Taoiseach Martin said that during a chat with Leo Varadkar during the week, Leo told him that he had taken Collins portrait down from the wall of his office..

Michaél said he told him, "you know what Leo, leave it up, and I'll put de Valera's up beside it".

To "signal a new era in Irish politics"

The Rubicon has been crossed ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah.

FrancieBrady · 28-06-2020 06:00PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Fairplay to Michaél Martin on the 1730 news there officially telling us that the civil war politics of the last century has ended.

Beaming for the camera's, Taoiseach Martin said that during a chat with Leo Varadkar during the week, Leo told him that he had taken Collins portrait down from the wall of his office..

Michaél said he told him, "you know what Leo, leave it up, and I'll put de Valera's up beside it".

To "signal a new era in Irish politics"

The Rubicon has been crossed ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah.

They've learned from Hitler's mistake at least. He tried to fight on two fronts and lost both. FF and FG have ended one war because they were losing the other one with SF heavily.

Will it succeed...pays your money and watch.

Mortelaro · 28-06-2020 06:00PM

McMurphy wrote: »

The Rubicon has been crossed ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah.

And the bet lost

Galwayguy35 · 28-06-2020 06:04PM

It was all for show anyway between FF/FG for the last 20 years or so, the real hate died with Garrett and Charlie.

JohnnyFlash · 28-06-2020 06:07PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They've learned from Hitler's mistake at least. He tried to fight on two fronts and lost both. FF and FG have ended one war because they were losing the other one with SF heavily.

Will it succeed...pays your money and watch.

What an idiotic comparison!

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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