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    #632
    BarnardsLoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭BarnardsLoop


    So that's it, eh? How many people have brought to attention that CA is slipping into an alt-right cesspit? And still nothing's done about it? Is Boards really that desperate to keep membership numbers up?

    What happened to this site? No, really, what the hell happened? You allow fake news, conspiracy theories, every vile insinuation about certain ethnic groups (I'm sure I don't need to say which) to go by without so much as a warning. Give it another ten years and I damn well guarantee you, Boards is going to be in the news and not for any reason you might want it to be.

    This is your site. If this is the way you want to run it, fine. Just at least have the decency to come out and say it. At least now I have enough posts to say this in Feedback. I'm out. When some knuckledragger torches a building again and it's found out they were radicalised here, I don't want to be associated with the site.


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    #633
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    So that's it, eh? How many people have brought to attention that CA is slipping into an alt-right cesspit? And still nothing's done about it? Is Boards really that desperate to keep membership numbers up?

    What happened to this site? No, really, what the hell happened? You allow fake news, conspiracy theories, every vile insinuation about certain ethnic groups (I'm sure I don't need to say which) to go by without so much as a warning. Give it another ten years and I damn well guarantee you, Boards is going to be in the news and not for any reason you might want it to be.

    This is your site. If this is the way you want to run it, fine. Just at least have the decency to come out and say it. At least now I have enough posts to say this in Feedback. I'm out. When some knuckledragger torches a building again and it's found out they were radicalised here, I don't want to be associated with the site.

    *Opened another account immediately


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    #634
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭This is it


    BarnardsHoop would've been a better random username


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    #635
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    This is it wrote: »
    BarnardsHoop would've been a better random username

    Was saying the same thing to myself earlier.


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    #636
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    *Opened another account immediately

    Pretty clear if you read some of his posts that he was a re-reg.


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    #637
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    So that's it, eh? How many people have brought to attention that CA is slipping into an alt-right cesspit? And still nothing's done about it? Is Boards really that desperate to keep membership numbers up?

    What happened to this site? No, really, what the hell happened? You allow fake news, conspiracy theories, every vile insinuation about certain ethnic groups (I'm sure I don't need to say which) to go by without so much as a warning. Give it another ten years and I damn well guarantee you, Boards is going to be in the news and not for any reason you might want it to be.

    This is your site. If this is the way you want to run it, fine. Just at least have the decency to come out and say it. At least now I have enough posts to say this in Feedback. I'm out. When some knuckledragger torches a building again and it's found out they were radicalised here, I don't want to be associated with the site.

    Lol


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    #638
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    So that's it, eh? How many people have brought to attention that CA is slipping into an alt-right cesspit? And still nothing's done about it? Is Boards really that desperate to keep membership numbers up?

    They won't even address the issue.

    I'd love if an admin could give an honest answer to the following:

    Are you happy that CA has become a racist cesspit? I mean, is it something that you're happy to stand over, or are you at least slightly ashamed?

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    #639
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,238 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It really is time for a racist/xenophobe sub forum where topics involving "dem foreigners" and "dem blacks" can be discussed in terms that they are comfortable with. While greatly reducing the white noise of hate on the rest of boards.

    It would also be a good self reveal ;) Let's see how many of the usual gang of suspects would actually be ready to declare what they are?
    Its really gone even more of a cliff than usual. Could do with adding "Foreigners/Trigger Warning" to the sub title. Two threads about skin whitening and a is "fake tan racist" thread.


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    #640
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭This is it


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    They won't even address the issue.

    I'd love if an admin could give an honest answer to the following:

    Are you happy that CA has become a racist cesspit? I mean, is it something that you're happy to stand over, or are you at least slightly ashamed?

    200.gif

    What do you expect when you ask a loaded question?


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    #641
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Its really gone even more of a cliff than usual. Could do with adding "Foreigners/Trigger Warning" to the sub title. Two threads about skin whitening and a is "fake tan racist" thread.

    But loreal are removing the word "whitening " from their products. Nobody made it up , its happening .


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    #642
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    This cancel culture is ridiculous. No one can seem to point to any racist posts. Just go on about there being an "undercurrent" of racism. It's silly.


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    #643
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    This cancel culture is ridiculous. No one can seem to point to any racist posts. Just go on about there being an "undercurrent" of racism. It's silly.

    Mods and admins want to keep the wrong opinion folk, the racists, the far left crew, the communists and everyone else in one place together for the benefit of everyone else in the other forums and threads.

    I see no problem with that. It's a good idea.
    Closing it down or maybe even continuing to over mod one set of views is likely to cause all of these people to spread out into the other forums.
    They don't want that. I understand


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    #644
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Mods and admins want to keep the wrong opinion folk, the racists, the far left crew, the communists and everyone else in one place together for the benefit of everyone else in the other forums and threads.

    I see no problem with that. It's a good idea.
    Closing it down or maybe even continuing to over mod one set of views is likely to cause all of these people to spread out into the other forums.
    They don't want that. I understand




    i would agree with this, and it's actually a great success.
    it's what the sight needed for years rather then the approach that would have been originally taken for which the culprits just re-regged anyway.


    at least they are now in one place and any racist and other views can be challenged, and from what i can see users are doing a decent job themselves.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #645
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,829 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    It wasn't what I had in mind when I proposed it & I hardly ever go there now but it could be useful of all the dross ends up in one place.

    But it's not just CA. Boards is becoming nastier day by day. Tolerance & understanding have been replaced with polarised opinion & aggression. The sad thing is there are increasingly few online places that aren't.


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    #646
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Discodog wrote: »
    Tolerance & understanding have been replaced with polarised opinion & aggression. The sad thing is there are increasingly few online places that aren't.

    Why do you think this is happening?


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    #647
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,829 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    Why do you think this is happening?

    Well this isn't the place to discuss it but it's a World wide trend. I think that Boards was seen as relatively immune from influencers, trolls etc compared to the big sites but now everywhere is a target.

    I seem to recall that the first weeks of CA had some relatively reasonable discussions but it's obviously a magnet now. We need sites where people can have intelligent, informative & empathetic discussion.

    Boards only works for me when in the specialist fora where one can ask questions & get decent answers but even that is changing.


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    #648
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    For an example, there's a genuinely interesting discussion around the issue of skin bleaching products. Instead we get outraged not so subtle type of racism outraged about the anti white agenda. There's posters that think white nationalists have a point and simply go on rants at every opportunity.


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    #649
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    This is it wrote: »
    What do you expect when you ask a loaded question?

    It's not a loaded question. It has become a racist cesspit. And the admins have allowed that to happen. I'd genuinely like to know whether they're happy or ashamed of what their inaction has led to.


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    #650
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,989 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    the site is what the users make it though, the admins can't do everything, the users will have to do their bit and play their part.
    if people want sensible discussion then have it and ignore whether it be racists or whoever else by not responding to them, some will want to challenge them and that's fine as well.
    the admins can bann the racists and eventually they do but they come back anyway, so the userbase will have to debunk the nonsense as that does have some success in getting rid of racists and similar as they eventually go off in a strop that way.
    or, there is a recycle bin forum on here somewhere as i saw it before, perhapse that could be repurposed and stick the trolls, racists and similar in there and leave them at it?

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #651
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users Posts: 10,558 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    It's not a loaded question. It has become a racist cesspit. And the admins have allowed that to happen. I'd genuinely like to know whether they're happy or ashamed of what their inaction has led to.

    What’s the alternative? Have these threads in After Hours? Would be a disaster.

    You’d have the mods working “round the clock” locking threads and handing out bans. Then you’d just have users re-regging to “attack” the site, itself.

    The normal users would probably just leave due to how bad it would have gotten.

    I’m not saying it’s ideal but giving these lads their own little “play pen” to spout all their hate and anger benefits the site, as a whole.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #652
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    i think ye should do up a list of what people should be allowed say

    ye could follow it up with a list of what people should be allowed think

    i mean nobody would ever be under any onus to pay your lists the slightest bit of attention but sweet christ it might keep ye busy from running in here with the same shrill objection every ten bloody minutes when ye read something ye didnt personally endorse


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    #653
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭This is it


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    It's not a loaded question. It has become a racist cesspit. And the admins have allowed that to happen. I'd genuinely like to know whether they're happy or ashamed of what their inaction has led to.

    It's a loaded question, whether you want it to be or not.


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    #654
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    What’s the alternative? Have these threads in After Hours? Would be a disaster.

    You’d have the mods working “round the clock” locking threads and handing out bans. Then you’d just have users re-regging to “attack” the site, itself.

    The normal users would probably just leave due to how bad it would have gotten.

    I’m not saying it’s ideal but giving these lads their own little “play pen” to spout all their hate and anger benefits the site, as a whole.

    I'm not sure it's a good idea, letting them carry on posting racist bile because you're afraid they'll re-reg and 'attack' the site. There are plenty of alternative play pens out there. Just because they can't hack it on far-right sites, doesn't mean Boards should provide the scum with a play pen.


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    #655
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    serious proposal

    boards high level come up with a hard and fast definition of racist views

    and every other -ist that is held to be bannable

    and they ban based on that

    and they ban equally quickly and diligently for every instance of anyone calling out an -ism frivolously where the declared definition is decided not to be held

    because this latter behaviour is as much a problem with the site as anything else


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    #656
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    May as well just pull the plug now then instead of the slow death fest sure to follow if the above was implemented.

    The plug should have been pulled when a moderator was allowed start a thread ranting and lecturing about why ‘all lives matter’ is racist.


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    #657
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    I'm not sure it's a good idea, letting them carry on posting racist bile because you're afraid they'll re-reg and 'attack' the site. There are plenty of alternative play pens out there. Just because they can't hack it on far-right sites, doesn't mean Boards should provide the scum with a play pen.

    Not doubting your experiences but would you be able to throw up a quote or two of far-right racist bile posted by scum that was left up and not actioned?


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    #658
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    The plug should have been pulled when a moderator was allowed start a thread ranting and lecturing about why ‘all lives matter’ is racist.

    All the racists should have responded by deleting their accounts in protest.
    Omackeral wrote: »
    Not doubting your experiences but would you be able to throw up a quote or two of far-right racist bile posted by scum that was left up and not actioned?

    I won't be singling anyone out. You'll find what you're looking for in Current Affairs.


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    #659
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    All the racists should have responded by deleting their accounts in protest.



    I won't be singling anyone out. You'll find what you're looking for in Current Affairs.

    If we use your definition of racism that would probably leave a few dozen posters.


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    #660
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    If we use your definition of racism that would probably leave a few dozen posters.

    Honestly, to eradicate the worst of the far-right nonsense, less than a dozen would have to leave.


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    #661
    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    I know this is regularly suggested jokingly, but for issues that come up all the time could we not have megathreads?

    For example, right now we have two nearly identical threads about prominent figures who are anti-trans, one for J K Rowling and one for Graham Linehan. It’s the same posters posting the same opinions and in a month it’ll be the same again on someone else.

    Right now there’s a main thread on the new government, but there are also at least three other threads in the forum about individual ministers and another about gender balance in the cabinet.

    Why do we need all these threads on the same topics?


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