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Itssoeasy · 28-06-2020 10:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

No restriction apply to people coming from.the occupied counties afaik

Why wouldn't they apply its a distance of 20kms until Monday anyway but the convention centre didn't move to Dundalk recently did it ?

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:04AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Maybe this has been answer but why was Michelle o Neil in Dublin yesterday and Michael Martins family was in cork ? Either the rules apply to everyone or they don't.

Not enforceable to non residents of the state, not sure but I think the last caretaker govt were responsible for that loophole.

Senior gardaí not overly concerned about apparent Covid-19 loophole

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 10:07AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

People aren't moaning about the Seanad. They're pointing out the blatant cronyism of appointing the likes of Dooley and Clifford Lee to the Seanad. Got up to shenanigans and were rejected multiple times at the ballot box but the usual stroke politics come to the fore.

It is one of the problems of the Seanad that it's seen as an ante room for the big house. Proposed abolition was the probably the right route but there was absolutely no effort made to present and prepare for what would be replacing it. In the end it was a tawdry and complacent campaign about money.

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 10:10AM

Deleted User wrote: »

No restriction apply to people coming from.the occupied counties afaik

Nice of SF to acknowledge the reality of two states on the island.

FrancieBrady · 28-06-2020 10:12AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Nice of SF to acknowledge the reality of two states on the island.

Why...is it not 'real'?

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 10:13AM

Deleted User wrote: »

That now,you will have to ask the wise heads of FG about

The restrictions are legally enforcable afaik,but i know alot about donegal and louth,sligo etc were v.pissed off with people from the 6 counties visiting holiday homes

Same as people in wexford and waterford were annoyed by holiday home owners from.dublin coming down......

Everyone has basically ignored travel regulations since last weekend from what i can see.....think it was that garda funeral and no social distancing/restrictions at it, what finally saw a drop off

The restrictions were enforced to get the virus under control. We've had no huge spikes at any point since they were relaxed. It's always been about most people complying, not everyone.

Edgware · 28-06-2020 10:14AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Pushing for Stepaside Garda station to be reopened which is in his own constituency when stations all over were being closed.

O Riordain bladdering on about housing yet doesn't want it in his voters area.

Josepha Madigan objecting to a traveller site in her area.

So lets not pretend TDs in Dublin don't push for local issues same as anywhere else.

If the people whinging about Josepha Madigan owned the land in question they would quickly realise that it would be a complete waste of their money to use that land for a halting site. The land was public land and would secure a hefty payment to the State if used for development, a certain amount of which could be usedto build new halting sites which travellers could then wreck at their leisure

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:14AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Nice of SF to acknowledge the reality of two states on the island.

Pretty sure they've been trying to unite the two states since the introduction of partition.

Jesus, talk about an attempted smart arsed comment being anything but.

Edgware · 28-06-2020 10:18AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

John halligan biggest contribution to irish politics was time he wanted to go to north korea to have a chat with kim to sort world peace....but couldnt deliver a cat lab for waterford

People wondering why shinners are taking over,our establishment elitest are a joke

The Cat Lab is in Programme for Government and the Greens/FF will get the credit. Halligan started the process but didnt speed it up. Probably reckoned it wouldnt matter as he was not standing in 2020

is_that_so · 28-06-2020 10:19AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The reason people voted againest abloshing seanad,was that it was giving too much power to.the dail to shut down investigations,

Everyone kinda views the dail as corrupt tbh,

Polls had people at over 60% in favour of abolition until quite close to the vote. It was more of a status quo vote than any great love of it. In short they blew the vote by making it all about money. Not sure where you're getting this Dail is corrupt bit from but OK.

Edgware · 28-06-2020 10:20AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Maybe this has been answer but why was Michelle o Neil in Dublin yesterday and Michael Martins family was in cork ? Either the rules apply to everyone or they don't.

O Neill is S.F. The rules dont apply to them. Or maybe she was down to have a chat with Paddy Hooligan

Truthvader · 28-06-2020 10:23AM

Edgware wrote: »

O Neill is S.F. The rules dont apply to them. Or maybe she was down to have a chat with Paddy Hooligan

Or to deliver Mary Lou her P45 from Slab and the boys

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:23AM

Edgware wrote: »

O Neill is S.F. The rules dont apply to them. Or maybe she was down to have a chat with Paddy Hooligan

The "rules" didn't apply/weren't enforceable to anyone not resident in the state, be that Michelle O'Neill, or Sammy Wilson, a German tourist, or drew Drew Harris children.

It was a loophole overlooked by...... Come on Edg, you can do it ............

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 10:23AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Pretty sure they've been trying to unite the two states since the introduction of partition.

Jesus, talk about an attempted smart arsed comment being anything but.

No the rules just don't apply to them. Backfired badly on the shinners.

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:26AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

No the rules just don't apply to them. Backfired badly on the shinners.

The rules/law wasn't enforceable to anyone, not resident in this state, regardless of nationality, gender, political affiliation or anything else.

Your comment backfired, that's all.

Stop digging please.

irishproduce · 28-06-2020 10:28AM

Listening to the radio this morn and couple female contributors mentioning there should have been more women.
I've tried to get in line with this train of thought but I simply cannot reconcile the fact you should get a senior job running a country, the economic and wellbeing of millions of people simply because you have a fanny.
What are posters thoughts on it?
It could only work if the countries with whom we compete or are pressured by (countries looking to go at our tax system for example) equally employ the same selection process for the people to run the country.
Because if we are competing against a state that chooses their best based on what they have to offer, then we would put ourselves at risk of being washed out because we have a selection policy that really had nothing to do with what you can do for our advantage.

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 10:29AM

McMurphy wrote: »

The rules/law wasn't enforceable to anyone, not resident in this state, regardless of nationality, gender, political affiliation or anything else.

Your comment backfired, that's all.

Stop digging please.

Shinners could've put a couple of brain cells together and realised that it wasn't the best idea. She had no business there yesterday, she has nothing to do with the Dail. But as we can see with the Paddy Holohan carry on, brain cells are in short supply in SF. Carry on.

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:36AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Shinners could've put a couple of brain cells together and realised that it wasn't the best idea. She had no business there yesterday, she has nothing to do with the Dail. But as we can see with the Paddy Holohan carry on, brain cells are in short supply in SF. Carry on.

So we've moved on now from Michelle O'Neill not actually breaking any rules or laws, to you thinking she shouldn't have come down?

I agree that perhaps she shouldn't have travelled, lead by example and all that, but then again she probably considered it "essential for work".

You can however stop with the rules not applicable to her nonsense, because they actually did not apply to her or anyone else not residing in the state, that is the reality, no matter how you try to spin it.

28-06-2020 10:38AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Shinners could've put a couple of brain cells together and realised that it wasn't the best idea. She had no business there yesterday, she has nothing to do with the Dail. But as we can see with the Paddy Holohan carry on, brain cells are in short supply in SF. Carry on.

Tbf mate,you seem someone who critises irregardless of what they do

Not that your critism.is wrong mind....just it seems pointless when its done for sake of it

Like the old saying,success comes in cans,not cant s......a constant barrage of negativity only hurts yourself,near on caused wipeout for shinners at local elections few years ago,but they have switched it around now and were only party offering positivity during last election

(See same happening now on social media sites,like twitter as they begin to erode negativity only posters)

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 10:38AM

McMurphy wrote: »

So we've moved on now from Michelle O'Neill not actually breaking any rules or laws, to you thinking she shouldn't have come down?

I agree that perhaps she shouldn't have travelled, lead by example and all that, but then again she probably considered it "essential for work".

You can however stop with the rules not applicable to her nonsense, they did not apply to her or anyone else not residing in the state, that is the reality, no matter how you try to spin it.

Even the rules in NI say to avoid all non essential foreign travel. Seems no rules apply to her. She had no business in Dublin yesterday. None.

JohnnyFlash · 28-06-2020 10:38AM

Michelle O’Neill doesn’t strike me as being the sharpest knife in the block.

Bubbaclaus · 28-06-2020 10:38AM

McMurphy wrote: »

The rules/law wasn't enforceable to anyone, not resident in this state, regardless of nationality, gender, political affiliation or anything else.

Your comment backfired, that's all.

Stop digging please.

Pretty sure Michelle O'Neill would be of the opinion she is a resident of this State though.

Edgware · 28-06-2020 10:48AM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Pretty sure Michelle O'Neill would be of the opinion she is a resident of this State though.

She can get a bit mixed up allright

McMurphy · 28-06-2020 10:48AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Even the rules in NI say to avoid all non essential foreign travel. Seems no rules apply to her. She had no business in Dublin yesterday. None.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but opinions are like arses, everyone has one and everyone thinks the other person's stinks.

I'm sure if the PSNI stopped O'Neill and asked her where she was headed, and she answered that she had Sinn Fein business in Dublin, she would be let carry-on her way with out any hassle.

Once across the border I'm sure the guard's would have also accepted the work reason as an acceptable one also, even if they hadn't of, they were powerless to stop her anyway.

That's not her thinking rules don't apply to her, that's an example of her more than likely believing that her attendance in the Dail was essential and important business to her.

The fact you don't think it was important, and she had no business in Dublin means diddly squat I'm afraid.

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 10:54AM

She is not a member of the Dail. She has nothing to do with the Dail. She had no business being in the Convention Centre. If she "had" to meet Mary Lou then she could've met her elsewhere. It was a photo op end of. Her showing up yesterday showed poor judgement but that's par for the course in SF. The mental gymnastics to justify it is impressive though. First it was, well she broke no rules, and then it turned into, will even if there was a rule in NI she obviously had essential business in Dublin yesterday. Get off the stage. You can apply your silly analogy to your own "opinion".

Bannasidhe · 28-06-2020 10:57AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Maybe this has been answer but why was Michelle o Neil in Dublin yesterday and Michael Martins family was in cork ? Either the rules apply to everyone or they don't.

Because someone made a boo boo with the legislation and restrictions only apply to people resident in RoI.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-travel-restrictions-will-not-apply-to-people-arriving-from-north-1.4251883

So no, the rules don't apply to everyone.

namloc1980 · 28-06-2020 11:00AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Because someone made a boo boo with the legislation and restrictions only apply to people resident in RoI.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-travel-restrictions-will-not-apply-to-people-arriving-from-north-1.4251883

So no, the rules don't apply to everyone.

The rule in NI is to avoid all non essential foreign travel.

Eric Cartman · 28-06-2020 11:02AM

The whole thing is engineered to perfection by fg

They keep finance so can ruin anything MM trys,
They handed the two most poisened chalices to FF and they retain the purse strings to keep them poison.

Catherine martin in the jumble pile ministry will almost certainly try ban hare coursing, fox hunting etc.. and FG can not lose rural support over it as its a green issue.

Barry cowen FF will be the target of all the hate from rural ireland when he’s forced to watch the greens and FG defund or actively tax to death rural dwellers.

Then MM gives “the perpetually opressed voice of eileen flynn” a seat in our nations talking shop, already leaving the public questioning his sanity.

FF are bound for a 2011 repeat after this and id say the greens will disband alltogether setting the stage for a FG majority under leo in 5 years time.

Eric Cartman · 28-06-2020 11:07AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The biggest flaw is FG have this unique ability to rub irish people up.the wrong way and (like peter casey) people generally wont vote for someone they dislike no matter how much they agree with em

While true, bar labour have a miraculous phoenix like comeback or they merge with SD and expand, therell be little to vote for next time round. FG being best of a terrible lot and atleast not the shinners will also help them

Bannasidhe · 28-06-2020 11:12AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

The rule in NI is to avoid all non essential foreign travel.

Just pointing out that the rules in this jurisdiction don't apply to everyone which was the question asked.
They only apply to people resident here. Like the Martins of Cork.

I'll leave others to debate with you whether travel from NI to RoI is considered 'foreign' travel.

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