FF/FG/Green Next Government

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 09:30PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

No way will FF hand over willingly ,be manufactured crisis and Greens will walk

They'd get slaughtered in an election if they dragged down the government. It would be counterproductive.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 09:32PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

No way will FF hand over willingly ,be manufactured crisis and Greens will walk

I have always been of the opinion one or other of FF or FG will walk sometime at the end of 21/start of 22.

Remember when the Greens has to do a rotation and couldn't manage it? The mooted rotation will be like that on crack. No chance.

Peter Flynt · 27-06-2020 09:34PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

No way will FF hand over willingly ,be manufactured crisis and Greens will walk

Greens are in it for the 5 years. They were given terrible departments and were still all smiles today.

FG though looked devastated. Tears in the eyes of Varadkar, Donohoe & Coveney.

If FF start improving in the polls (at FG's expense) then they'll bail out in 2022 and go for an election.

Edgware · 27-06-2020 09:40PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Greens are in it for the 5 years. They were given terrible departments and were still all smiles today.

FG though looked devastated. Tears in the eyes of Varadkar, Donohoe & Coveney.

If FF start improving in the polls (at FG's expense) then they'll bail out in 2022 and go for an election.

Pure speculation

FrancieBrady · 27-06-2020 09:41PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Greens are in it for the 5 years. They were given terrible departments and were still all smiles today.

FG though looked devastated. Tears in the eyes of Varadkar, Donohoe & Coveney.

If FF start improving in the polls (at FG's expense) then they'll bail out in 2022 and go for an election.

Historic day after all, that's why there were tears. FG TD's voting in a FF Taoiseach.

Change will just come slowly but change it will. The Rubicon has been crossed, next time, neither of the power swap in government

Mysterypunter · 27-06-2020 09:43PM

Change me hole, men in suits with no mandate, politics is rotten and crooked.

RandomViewer · 27-06-2020 09:43PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Why do the West need a minister?

Cork South Central have 3. Does it matter?

No minister means no votes next time, evendopey Kenny knew to spread them around,
Cork will punish if they don't get some massive projects
. Coveneys brother is for the chop at Greencore can see him pulling the pin too

Jinglejangle69 · 27-06-2020 09:43PM

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Change me hole, men in suits with no mandate, politics is rotten and crooked.

Whats a mandate?

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 09:46PM

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Change me hole, men in suits with no mandate, politics is rotten and crooked.

What? The 3 government parties got >50% of the votes and seats. It's not difficult to understand.

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 09:46PM

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Change me hole, men in suits with no mandate, politics is rotten and crooked.

You always welcome to apply yourself

Truthvader · 27-06-2020 09:54PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Sf are very left wing. Pro higher corporate tax. Pro wealth tax. Pro immigration. Pro public housing. Those are left wing policies 101

Those are part of a selection of populist "free stuff forever"policies of party with no policies at all save a thirst for power. As left wing as Trump

Truthvader · 27-06-2020 09:57PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

No ministers from the west , Green demand?

No ginger minsters? Racism?

Get a grip FFS.

JohnnyFlash · 27-06-2020 09:58PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You always welcome to apply yourself

I think this is a very important point. There's so many men (always men) who spend their life giving out aimlessly on Boards, Twitter, Journal, Reddit etc about how they hate politics, politicians, and how this 'kip' has turned out.

They should either join a political party, or come up with an alternative party.

I'd love to see the candidates the Irish Internet Party would put forward.

Truthvader · 27-06-2020 10:00PM

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Change me hole, men in suits with no mandate, politics is rotten and crooked.

?????????????????????

James Brown · 27-06-2020 10:02PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Those are part of a selection of populist "free stuff forever"policies of party with no policies at all save a thirst for power. As left wing as Trump

When luxury apartments on 25 year leases are being handed out now I think the 'free stuff forever' policies are safe.
Goldman Sachs don't make anything if it's state built social housing. That's FG housing policy in a nutshell.

Peter Flynt · 27-06-2020 10:04PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I think this is a very important point. There's so many men (always men) who spend their life giving out aimlessly on Boards, Twitter, Journal, Reddit etc about how they hate politics, politicians, and how this 'kip' has turned out.

They should either join a political party, or come up with an alternative party.

I'd love to see the candidates the Irish Internet Party would put forward.

You'd need to have a god few million in the bank to set up a political party and challenge for seats.

Water John · 27-06-2020 10:07PM

One of the political commentators made the point today, that FG didn't get that their housing policy was wrong until they went into Govn't formation talks.
Ireland always had a social housing policy. Even the Dail meeting in 1920 was discussing how to provide housing for those living in the slums.

Truthvader · 27-06-2020 10:10PM

Bowie wrote: »

When luxury apartments on 25 year leases are being handed out now I think the 'free stuff forever' policies are safe.
Goldman Sachs don't make anything if it's state built social housing. That's FG housing policy in a nutshell.

Eh..........I don't think anyone has any idea what you are talking about

Jinglejangle69 · 27-06-2020 10:13PM

Water John wrote: »

One of the political commentators made the point today, that FG didn't get that their housing policy was wrong until they went into Govn't formation talks.
Ireland always had a social housing policy. Even the Dail meeting in 1920 was discussing how to provide housing for those living in the slums.

Ireland always had a social housing policy.

Correct.

That's why there was 10,000 social houses buoy last year.

Shall I continue?

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 10:16PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

No minister means no votes next time, evendopey Kenny knew to spread them around,
Cork will punish if they don't get some massive projects
. Coveneys brother is for the chop at Greencore can see him pulling the pin too

Dopey Kenny?

Well you seem like you are a rational fellow.

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Regardless of the idiocy of "western' voters thinking having a minister is some sort of gift or right, it's a wonder Dublin ever votes for anyone then given we keep getting a proportionally less of everything generally

irishproduce · 27-06-2020 10:19PM

Dangerous putting Catherine Martin in charge of media and culture briefs. That will have to be monitored.

Snow Garden · 27-06-2020 10:20PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Didnt everyone get the chance to scrap the Seanead and they rejected it?

Complaining about it now is that not a bit stupid?

Enda personally made a balls of the referendum and then promised to reform it.

The Manning report was produced and then left to sit on a shelf.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-yet-to-move-on-road-to-seanad-reform-1.4035283

Mr Martin accused him of a “bread and circuses” approach, promising what seemed like well-meaning reform but then refusing to implement it.

Spanish Eyes · 27-06-2020 10:21PM

I do not understand this view of needing a Minister from every Province or whatever. That is pothole politics at its worst. Someone might explain the need for geographical spread. County Councils are at county level, National politics is at whole of country level. Shakes head.

MrMusician18 · 27-06-2020 10:23PM

irishproduce wrote: »

Dangerous putting Catherine Martin in charge of media and culture briefs. That will have to be monitored.

Get ready for the license fee increase. Great value at €260 a year - shur that's less than €1 a day for such quality.

RandomViewer · 27-06-2020 10:24PM

irishproduce wrote: »

Dangerous putting Catherine Martin in charge of media and culture briefs. That will have to be monitored.

John Bruton is official chaperone to the Greens, any missteps and the weedkiller goes on the cabbage patch

Dank Janniels · 27-06-2020 10:24PM

There will be a statue of Michael Fitzmaurice put up in Glinsk or wherever hes from before the morning!

RandomViewer · 27-06-2020 10:27PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I do not understand this view of needing a Minister from every Province or whatever. That is pothole politics at its worst. Someone might explain the need for geographical spread. County Councils are at county level, National politics is at whole of country level. Shakes head.

Optics, country has to be seen to be fairly represented, leaving out the whole west coast with 2 major cities looks like very poor judgement

FrancieBrady · 27-06-2020 10:27PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I do not understand this view of needing a Minister from every Province or whatever. That is pothole politics at its worst. Someone might explain the need for geographical spread. County Councils are at county level, National politics is at whole of country level. Shakes head.

It's going to be the first crucifix for the new coalition...buckle up.

Bullocks · 27-06-2020 10:28PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I'd love to see the candidates the Irish Internet Party would put forward.

Be careful what you wish for, it's like something that would actually happen!

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 10:31PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Optics, country has to be seen to be fairly represented, leaving out the whole west coast with 2 major cities looks like very poor judgement

Limerick insist on electing useless TDs. Their own fault really.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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